ayushreddevil9
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Yo can shift as many goalposts as you want. Doesn't change anything.Sorry, did you say Lingard was brilliant? If so I should have laughed.
Yo can shift as many goalposts as you want. Doesn't change anything.Sorry, did you say Lingard was brilliant? If so I should have laughed.
All I can tell you is that I was complaining all the time But I see your point.Rashford proved he could play actual combination football with Martial; that dribbling blind is something we thrust upon because previously it resulted in goals as he was finishing those chances. If we’re honest, the concern this season is almost purely about him not scoring, over how greedy/mindless he is; during his golden period of form how many complaints about the way he plays football could be found, and even then, how quickly would they be drowned by others citing his goal scoring stats?
True.No team of any measure leaves all its goal scoring to one man. That’s a foundation built on balsa wood, and unless you have a very special player, one that’s bound to fail; we’re not supporting the load or aiding him in getting through his slump; we’re compounding the woe and then he tries doubly hard, resulting in even more blind alley runs and ‘mindless’ plays.
Not sure, I would agree here. Granted, the Rashford, Martial and Greenwood combination seemed to have brought the most output from Bruno but even after that period, Rashfords speed and willingness to run in behind and Brunos vision and ability to see such movements and being able to quickly act on it (plus his apparent lack of getting discouraged at that even if it doesn't work 15 times) was and is a very effective combination that elevated both of them again and again. The issue here is, that the overall balance of the team isn't wrong and that this combination, as good as it can be theoretically, isn't good enough to be better than our rivals.The Bruno you’re referring to hasn’t been seen since that triumvirate I mentioned, whom he had a field day feeding as they created spaces and chaos he could easily exploit. A player of the profile Martial used to have is what we know Rashford shines playing with. There’s a massive burden on him alone at the minute, and it doesn’t seem to get the attention it should as that should never, ever happen at a top club, and I’ll cite those forwards, all of whom are levels above Rashford, who are all far better supported than he is here.
Isn't that some sort of the "hen and egg" situation? Is a player brilliant when he doesn't play brilliantly often times? Or can a decent player turn up with brilliant performances here and there?I suppose they watch him and form an opinion. He’s been unplayable at times. He’s played very poorly a lot of other times as well. Probably we should get rid of him. But I am just not having it that he isn’t brilliant. The problem is he doesn’t play to his capability enough.
I don’t want anything changed, ta.Yo can shift as many goalposts as you want. Doesn't change anything.
I don’t want anything changed, ta.
I wouldn’t try to defend his recent form. If we assume he’ll never play well again then I’m happy to say he “was” a brilliant player. That seems premature to me. People are objecting to me saying he’s brilliant because he often plays badly and argue that if he plays shit, he IS shit. From a logical perspective I dislike that and we know it is incorrect because the best players that ever lived sometimes played bad.All I can tell you is that I was complaining all the time But I see your point.
True.
Not sure, I would agree here. Granted, the Rashford, Martial and Greenwood combination seemed to have brought the most output from Bruno but even after that period, Rashfords speed and willingness to run in behind and Brunos vision and ability to see such movements and being able to quickly act on it (plus his apparent lack of getting discouraged at that even if it doesn't work 15 times) was and is a very effective combination that elevated both of them again and again. The issue here is, that the overall balance of the team isn't wrong and that this combination, as good as it can be theoretically, isn't good enough to be better than our rivals.
Isn't that some sort of the "hen and egg" situation? Is a player brilliant when he doesn't play brilliantly often times? Or can a decent player turn up with brilliant performances here and there?
I think, it is a bit of a mood point to argue about. At the end of the day, only thing that counts is how a player played recently and for one reason or another, brilliant isn't one of the better or precise words to describe him. That being said, we will not sell him, I just don't see it. The manager has to find a way to get the best out of him (but this doesn't necessarily means, he shouldn't be benched from time to time)
Did anyone ever say anything like that? I read irrational ones like where someone said he shouldn't have celebrated his birthday but that's about it.Stop smiling, you have nothing to smile about according to The Caf.
There are plenty of those on the Matchday and his performance threads. He isn't much loved on here.Did anyone ever say anything like that? I read irrational ones like where someone said he shouldn't have celebrated his birthday but that's about it.
What makes you think that there's an active agenda against him from people who are critical of his performances? He was given all the love last season and this season he is getting the stick(and rightly so). Criticism is not equivalent to hatred.There are plenty of those on the Matchday and his performance threads. He isn't much loved on here.
Yeah all of that is fair comment but the main problem is himself. I couldn’t tell you why but he’s a shadow of his self from last season. The guy has torn it up against top defences on many occasions but he can’t sustain it.
Neither did I. Was hoping for him to carry on but its almost like a deja vu thing with him.I don't know why either, that would only lead to speculation.
Personally, I just concluded that he is a good but inconsistent player whatever the reason maybe after the Ole/Rangnik season, so I didn't get too giddy after his scoring numbers last season.
I also don't think it would be a problem if the club operated on the basis that he is a good but albeit inconsistent player.
I think it's the opposite. We want to see him enjoying himself on the pitch. We want to see him taunting fullbacks to compete and beating them with his touches as he waves his way into the opposition box, we want to see him scoring and assisting. We don't want to see a a sulking player who can't seem to do the basics right, who defenders just have to follow while he messes up trying to dribble, who seems like he can't wait to get off the pitch.Stop smiling, you have nothing to smile about according to The Caf.
Yeah he is inconsistent and we need to be able to drop him when he’s in one of these troughs. I’d feel a lot better if we had someone good enough to keep Rashford out of the starting line up unless he gets on a hot streak of form. I’m repeating myself but we need to recruit a prolific goal-scoring wide forward from somewhere (no idea who and I’d expect him to be bloody expensive).I don't know why either, that would only lead to speculation.
Personally, I just concluded that he is a good but inconsistent player whatever the reason maybe after the Ole/Rangnik season, so I didn't get too giddy after his scoring numbers last season.
I also don't think it would be a problem if the club operated on the basis that he is a good but albeit inconsistent player.
Who, when isolated against the Maltese right back and having the chance to build up some confidence through a goal and an assist or two away from United, makes the latter look like Kyle Walker...I think it's the opposite. We want to see him enjoying himself on the pitch. We want to see him taunting fullbacks to compete and beating them with his touches as he waves his way into the opposition box, we want to see him scoring and assisting. We don't want to see a a sulking player who can't seem to do the basics right, who defenders just have to follow while he messes up trying to dribble, who seems like he can't wait to get off the pitch.
He played 10 minutes in a dead rubber.Back to back shockers vs Malta and North Macedonia
He's never been a player who really weaves, he ever beats with pace in a straight line or he loses the ball.I think it's the opposite. We want to see him enjoying himself on the pitch. We want to see him taunting fullbacks to compete and beating them with his touches as he waves his way into the opposition box, we want to see him scoring and assisting. We don't want to see a a sulking player who can't seem to do the basics right, who defenders just have to follow while he messes up trying to dribble, who seems like he can't wait to get off the pitch.
I wouldn’t try to defend his recent form. If we assume he’ll never play well again then I’m happy to say he “was” a brilliant player. That seems premature to me. People are objecting to me saying he’s brilliant because he often plays badly and argue that if he plays shit, he IS shit. From a logical perspective I dislike that and we know it is incorrect because the best players that ever lived sometimes played bad.
Some guys will give you 6 out of 10 every week but they aren’t brilliant. They’re consistent. Rashford has given us 9 out of 10 countless times. He has done things that average players (including Jesse f’ing Lingard cannot) because he has that rare combination of pace, technique, strength and composure. Rashford also gives us 2 out of 10. That doesn’t mean he’s not brilliant it means he’s inconsistent.
There’s championship wingers that look better than him at the momentDoku looks far better than this guy on the left
Fergie would have dealt with this. I genuinely believe his off field issues are directly related to his shit form. This on/off drama with his girlfriend would have been dealt with by Sir Alex.Looks like he’ll be back in form soon https://x.com/dailystar_sport/status/1728536001142792413?s=46
Fergie would have got rid of him long before nowFergie would have dealt with this. I genuinely believe his off field issues are directly related to his shit form. This on/off drama with his girlfriend would have been dealt with by Sir Alex.
Like he dealt with Giggs' off the field relationships right??Fergie would have dealt with this. I genuinely believe his off field issues are directly related to his shit form. This on/off drama with his girlfriend would have been dealt with by Sir Alex.
Like he dealt with Giggs' off the field relationships right??
His peak isn't even close to being 2007 Ronaldo. If we're comparing him to Ronaldo the closest would probably be the version at Juventus. A great goal scorer who can show some glimpses of great talent, but the all-round game just isn't quite top level.Peak level: 2007 Ronaldo
Bottom level: 2009 Obertan playing with one shoe missing
The issue is that in his entire career he's only been 'brilliant' for about three months in 19/20. An argument could be made for about three months last season as well, but honestly he was scoring a lot of goals but his all-round game wasn't really that great.Yeah, the whole thing might be entirely his own fault but I find it laughable that he is regarded as a poor player who played well in a purple patch. He is a brilliant player. Even when he is playing shit he is a brilliant player (playing shit). It is a problem that he can’t play to his capabilities more often and probably an unsolvable problem. It’s our problem because he’s our player. We pay him too much, I suppose.
Looks like he’ll be back in form soon https://x.com/dailystar_sport/status/1728536001142792413?s=46
I had a dream that he rounded the keeper and missed an empty net.
Giggs, for all his faults, never looked like he'd never played professional football before.Like he dealt with Giggs' off the field relationships right??
I understand the general sentiment of this.The issue is that in his entire career he's only been 'brilliant' for about three months in 19/20. An argument could be made for about three months last season as well, but honestly he was scoring a lot of goals but his all-round game wasn't really that great.
Pretty much the rest of his career he's been average-to-poor but still managing to score a decent amount of goals, or downright terrible (21/22 and so far this season) and not scoring any goals.
I'm looking forward to seeing Rashford reinvent himself as a central midfielder in his 30s.Like he dealt with Giggs' off the field relationships right??
I don't think, he should only be judged by his goals. We can do that for a striker and these days, not even this really cutting it anymore. Personally I think, we miss the 2020/21 Version of him. Rashford the creator. Who tried to make something work for Martial and Greenwood. Who was able to cross, to pass, to do little interplay and who worked for the team. Somewhere along the line somebody told him, that he should transform into Real Madrid Ronaldo for some reason. A striker who starts on the left and is free'd of most of the mundane stuff because he is so great at scoring.I understand the general sentiment of this.
I think it’s probably a fool’s errand to try to be specific about when exactly he was brilliant and for how long. I have no problem with the generalisation that he was only brilliant in relatively short spells and not often enough.
He’s frustrating and my current feelings are that I have no objection to him being benched or sold as I suspect we wouldn’t miss him much. We miss the guy who scored loads of goals but he’s not here at the moment anyway.
Looks like he’ll be back in form soon https://x.com/dailystar_sport/status/1728536001142792413?s=46