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Ten Hag misused everyone so I'm not sure why Rashford is the target. Maybe a manager that knows how to set up an attack so the forwards get chances on goal instead of the fullbacks might be able to get the best out of him? Or also not drop him after he scores a brace...
 
Attack the post and not the poster so I'm attacking the posts on here saying Rashford is unsalvageable. Amorim would love Rashford and use his best qualities. He'll play as one of the two 10s narrow behind the no 9 and he'll cause havoc there. Amorim doesn't play with out and out wingers, he likes them narrow and Rashford will excel there. With his shooting he'll be closer to goal and in more dangerous positions. I've not given up on him, how many in this team have score more than him in the past 3 seasons. I'm waiting........
 
The fact anyone's talking optimistically about the next manager being able to come in to motivate Rashford into looking like he gives a toss, I find mind-blowing. How far have we sunk where we're still pandering to this?
Christ did Rashford park in your parking space or something?
 
Attack the post and not the poster so I'm attacking the posts on here saying Rashford is unsalvageable. Amorim would love Rashford and use his best qualities. He'll play as one of the two 10s narrow behind the no 9 and he'll cause havoc there. Amorim doesn't play with out and out wingers, he likes them narrow and Rashford will excel there. With his shooting he'll be closer to goal and in more dangerous positions. I've not given up on him, how many in this team have score more than him in the past 3 seasons. I'm waiting........
Amorim or any other coach will only love Rashford if he bothers to put in the effort, which hasn't been the case for large periods of the past couple seasons
 
Amorim or any other coach will only love Rashford if he bothers to put in the effort, which hasn't been the case for large periods of the past couple seasons

And that's the unforgivable thing. The effort levels have been scandalous for the longest time. The excuses made for it are equally outrageous. As if it's become acceptable for a player to barely half-arse it in a United shirt with a massive contract because he feels miffed at being sometimes asked to play askew of his first preference position.

Look at this heat map. He was asked to undertake some defensive duties. We know that makes Marcus sad! How dare we?!
 
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But Saka and Rashford always look similar level players when they play together for England. Saka has 19 GA in 2960 minutes and Rashford has 23 GA in 2690 minutes.

Do you perhaps think that maybe you are being influenced by the fact Saka is currently playing for one of the best attacking teams in Europe and Rashford is watching intended passes fly 50 yards past him (whilst playing out of position anyway)?

Sure I’d like Rashford to be better at dealing with the fact he’s playing in a miserable United team with an awful coach. I’ve absolutely no doubt though that if he was in the Arsenal team currently he’s look a superstar. You only need to look at Havertz for an example of the difference between playing for a poorly organised team and a top tier one and he’s nowhere near Rashford’s level.
Rashford isn’t good enough for us. Saka would be our standout player. The gap between them is astronomical. People need to let go of mediocrity. Amorim and Ineos will struggle here if they too cant.
 
Jesus fecking christ. So as his heatmap shows, he’s clearly not playing as a fullback, nor a right back, so what the absolute fecking feck are you actually on about

I think most of Rashford's issues are down to himself but there's no doubt since he was subbed off at half time how we've used him has been a bit odd.

You must have seen the emphasis on getting Dalot in behind while Rashford sits more.

Which as I say is odd as Dalot has zero composure in the final third.
 
I don't immediately see a role for Rashford in a 343. He's not a hold up number 9 and his creative interplay around the edge of the box was pretty average even when he was on fire for goals. A wingback he is not. Its hard to see a future for him, especially when his form is in the pits.

That said, Rashford is such an iconic character in Manchester that it would feel incredibly odd for him to leave. Not only is he on the back of a tonne of United shirts, but he's like the only footballer your nan can name. Id be gutted if it didnt work out. But we can't carry him forever based on how profile he is, especially if he doesnt suit the new manager.
 
Beggars belief that someone who has routinely taken the piss out of the club and performs once in a blue moon is held in such high regard by some fans still
 
I don't immediately see a role for Rashford in a 343. He's not a hold up number 9 and his creative interplay around the edge of the box was pretty average even when he was on fire for goals. A wingback he is not. Its hard to see a future for him, especially when his form is in the pits.

That said, Rashford is such an iconic character in Manchester that it would feel incredibly odd for him to leave. Not only is he on the back of a tonne of United shirts, but he's like the only footballer your nan can name. Id be gutted if it didnt work out. But we can't carry him forever based on how profile he is, especially if he doesnt suit the new manager.

Icon of mediocrity
 
Backing Rashford was never going to end well for ten Hag. The overt favouritism shown was a great example of his naivety and inability to manage a group of players competently.

Hopefully the next manager has a bit more common sense.
 
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Get rid in January along with Antony, Shaw, Lindelof, Maguire, Evans, Malacia, Zirkzee, Mount.
 
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Your post suggested that Marcus has only had one good season or a "2.5-month period", but he has had multiple seasons with over 20 goal contributions.
I specifically said «after the world cup», so not sure how you’ve managed to conclude that i suggested anything different.
 
I don't immediately see a role for Rashford in a 343. He's not a hold up number 9 and his creative interplay around the edge of the box was pretty average even when he was on fire for goals. A wingback he is not. Its hard to see a future for him, especially when his form is in the pits.

That said, Rashford is such an iconic character in Manchester that it would feel incredibly odd for him to leave. Not only is he on the back of a tonne of United shirts, but he's like the only footballer your nan can name. Id be gutted if it didnt work out. But we can't carry him forever based on how profile he is, especially if he doesnt suit the new manager.

If he was willing he could play that role. He could be a No.9. To me that would be the ideal situation for the club if he could become that rotation option with Hojlund.

But something happened a few years ago where he became physically timid. Dodging physical contests which he didn't as an 18 year old. You can't do that as a 9 but the role would be there if he applied himself properly to it.

Allowing us to replace him as a wide man with somebody more creative.
 
What is a channel running striker?

Hojlund looks like a good copy and paste of Gyokeres but I do struggle to see where Rashford gets involved tactically (maybe to many peoples happiness).

There is always a part of me that remembers when he first broke through, he broke through as a striker, scoring headers and poachers goal.

Him losing that ability & being this one sided winger may be hurting his prime.

I know it's failed many times - but playing a narrow front 3 with Garnacho, Amad out wide & Rashford as our central channel running striker doesn't seem too bad. However, then there's Zirkzee..
 

I find it assuming that anyone would think xG of 1 goal per 6 games or 1 xA per 3 games is acceptable. And let's not talk about looking like a world beater against Barnsley... If that's your benchmark and expectation go root for a Championship team please.

Why are we even trying to defend Rashford? Yes ETH was a bad manager and got fired but that doesn't mean Rashford isn't also a equally bad player. Both of them suck it's not 1 or the other.

Rashford had 1 good season which "shockingly" coincided with a contract year and he's done feck all before and after. Right so he was disliked by 2 experts Jose/Ralf and gotten the other 3 that trusted him fired. Overrating English talent is why England never wins the WC. And no EPL club is more prone to that fallacy than us, and it's not coincidence that we also suck. Yes there are some actual good English players, but also a lot of mediocre ones. The trick is calling a spade a spade.
 
I find it assuming that anyone would think xG of 1 goal per 6 games or 1 xA per 3 games is acceptable. And let's not talk about looking like a world beater against Barnsley... If that's your benchmark and expectation go root for a Championship team please.

Why are we even trying to defend Rashford? Yes ETH was a bad manager and got fired but that doesn't mean Rashford isn't also a equally bad player. Both of them suck it's not 1 or the other.

Rashford had 1 good season which "shockingly" coincided with a contract year and he's done feck all before and after. Right so he was disliked by 2 experts Jose/Ralf and gotten the other 3 that trusted him fired. Overrating English talent is why England never wins the WC. And no EPL club is more prone to that fallacy than us, and it's not coincidence that we also suck. Yes there are some actual good English players, but also a lot of mediocre ones. The trick is calling a spade a spade.

Can you talk me through how Rashford has got three managers fired? I’m particularly interested in the explanations around LVG and Ole.
 
I find it assuming that anyone would think xG of 1 goal per 6 games or 1 xA per 3 games is acceptable. And let's not talk about looking like a world beater against Barnsley... If that's your benchmark and expectation go root for a Championship team please.

Why are we even trying to defend Rashford? Yes ETH was a bad manager and got fired but that doesn't mean Rashford isn't also a equally bad player. Both of them suck it's not 1 or the other.

Rashford had 1 good season which "shockingly" coincided with a contract year and he's done feck all before and after. Right so he was disliked by 2 experts Jose/Ralf and gotten the other 3 that trusted him fired. Overrating English talent is why England never wins the WC. And no EPL club is more prone to that fallacy than us, and it's not coincidence that we also suck. Yes there are some actual good English players, but also a lot of mediocre ones. The trick is calling a spade a spade.
So much nonsense in this post I don't even know where to begin.
 
Yeah facts are hard to accept. Hard to figure out how to argue against logic and truth
Not that much logic and truth behind your quotes. Lets start with "he got the other three fired"...thats just nonsense.

But anyway, everyone is free to have their opinion. The only truth will lie on the pitch. We all agree that Rashford needs to perform and soon under Amorim otherwise his time here might effectively be up soon.

It will be very interesting to see which affect Amorims appointment will have on Rashfords performances until the end of the season.
 
Can you talk me through how Rashford has got three managers fired? I’m particularly interested in the explanations around LVG and Ole.
3 managers who believed in him are no longer at our club. In professional world when the employee leaves against their will, it's called being fired or let go.

Joking aside no one is saying he wasn't electric under LVG, and LVGs firing was just dumb impatience from our subpart ownership group. But I think in Jose rein it was apparent that the drive and hunger to be great wasn't there and his body also started breaking down. If that happened at Real Madrid he'd have been sold for £90M to PSG. We just had respectfully not very intelligent people making football decisions
 
I find it assuming that anyone would think xG of 1 goal per 6 games or 1 xA per 3 games is acceptable. And let's not talk about looking like a world beater against Barnsley... If that's your benchmark and expectation go root for a Championship team please.

Why are we even trying to defend Rashford? Yes ETH was a bad manager and got fired but that doesn't mean Rashford isn't also a equally bad player. Both of them suck it's not 1 or the other.

Rashford had 1 good season which "shockingly" coincided with a contract year and he's done feck all before and after. Right so he was disliked by 2 experts Jose/Ralf and gotten the other 3 that trusted him fired. Overrating English talent is why England never wins the WC. And no EPL club is more prone to that fallacy than us, and it's not coincidence that we also suck. Yes there are some actual good English players, but also a lot of mediocre ones. The trick is calling a spade a spade.
Well said.

However, you’re probably not going to convince the pace worshipers in here
 
Rashford is poster boy for post-Fergie era, get rid at earliest. His attitude is appalling, and his wages are a joke. Cut losses and move on. No more of this nonsense of fresh slate, he'll do his usual BS of score few goals and then again throw up a strop and play like shit for an entire season.
 
It’s fair to say that Rashford’s contract is fault of the club and no one else’s. No one is ever going to turn down that amount of money. Saying that rashford ‘got managers fired’ is a bit hyperbolic, but I also think it’s fair to say his inconsistency and lack of competitiveness played a part. I still hold that he has been much better this season, has been pressing fairly well, and also passing great (til West Ham).

INEOS seem like they know the score anyway as they released details that Rashford could be sold in the event of the right offer, which signals the right kind of intent regarding performance standards. I hope he kicks on and regularly performs to the level he is capable of. Would be pretty foolish to expect that though, given his career so far. Best indication of future performance is past performance and all that.
 
Marcus has been playing moderately OK this season, certainly by the standards of last season which was little short of abysmal.

The problem is, whether people like to admit it or not, is that Marcus is not a top quality player. On his day, he's a decent top half Prem player, that's about it. No shame in that, it must be extraordinarily difficult to even reach that standard in the game.

But United will never get back to challenging for the PL if we're hanging onto the idea of Marcus as our "star" attacker. I'm really gobsmacked that people who have presumably watched Marcus's career since his debut need this spelled out to them.
 
Looking forward to all of conspiracy theories that Amorim is being forced to start Rashford by the hierarchy etc

Closely followed by grumbles about how he let ETH down when he puts in a 30GA season in a well organised attacking team.
 
Attack the post and not the poster so I'm attacking the posts on here saying Rashford is unsalvageable. Amorim would love Rashford and use his best qualities. He'll play as one of the two 10s narrow behind the no 9 and he'll cause havoc there. Amorim doesn't play with out and out wingers, he likes them narrow and Rashford will excel there. With his shooting he'll be closer to goal and in more dangerous positions. I've not given up on him, how many in this team have score more than him in the past 3 seasons. I'm waiting........
Amorim will also make Bruno the world's best. Same with Antony. Lindelof will become our no 1 defender....because Amorim...
 
Problem is not rashford but building team around him (and bruno). He is inconsistent and has a weak mentality. New manager must plan differently and then see whether Rashford fits into that structure or not.
 
Problem is not rashford but building team around him (and bruno). He is inconsistent and has a weak mentality. New manager must plan differently and then see whether Rashford fits into that structure or not.

There has to be a trust issue there from the start. He's surely going to be aware the player has barely sauntered around the field for the best part of two years. One of the advantages of Ten Hag being so weak and rewarding him with a place in the team every week is that there has been no real hiding place for him.

Of course it's possible that the new manager is one of those "This thread is an embarrassment, he's far better than Garnacho" types who will tolerate that, but I hope not.
 
Not sure what need there is to salvage from Rashford, he has been a pretty consistent performer this season so far and one of our better players.
It's just unfortunate so many fans seem to have moved on from McTominay to Rashford as the new scapegoat.
Would imagine the new manager starts Rashford fairly consistently as well.
 
Attack the post and not the poster so I'm attacking the posts on here saying Rashford is unsalvageable. Amorim would love Rashford and use his best qualities. He'll play as one of the two 10s narrow behind the no 9 and he'll cause havoc there. Amorim doesn't play with out and out wingers, he likes them narrow and Rashford will excel there. With his shooting he'll be closer to goal and in more dangerous positions. I've not given up on him, how many in this team have score more than him in the past 3 seasons. I'm waiting........
Rashford isn't going to be a number 10 behind the striker in a 3-5-2, that is very unlikely given his own desire to play left wing combined with his lack of effort/work rate and his skill set. It just doesn't fit with how Amorim sets up his teams. You don't put a player centrally (and as part of the midfield) because he is a decent finisher.