He also shot way too early he could have taken a touch closer and then shot with a better angle. He's just not clinical or physical anymore. Out of Bruno, Mount, Garnacho, Amad, Zirkzee probably the worst option or 2nd worst for the 2 no. 10 roles. Hojlund is clearly better as the no. 9 so I don't really know where he plays. Silly we pay him so much. As someone posted earlier SAF would have never let this happen.
10
Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 23
- Goals
- 7
- Assists
- 3
- Yellow cards
- 2
Anyone think he has a chance after these two showings? He just looks bored and not bothered, every single pass is scuffed or under hit and every shot hit with no conviction what so ever.
I don't think his chance was a sitter or anything like that, but it was a good opportunity and his finish was just rubbish. His shot ended up not even being close.
I hope i'm wrong and he turns it around but it's hard to shake the feeling he's done here.
I hope i'm wrong and he turns it around but it's hard to shake the feeling he's done here.
Backup for Rasmus is the only option I see for him until we sign another striker. Some pace in behind is about all I can see that he offers. Doesn't have the touch or interplay, spatial awareness, pressing, anything at all to make me think he's an option for one of the 10s.
Rashford is experienced enough now to have shown far more composure on that break and look up to see Bruno on the edge of the box. But, once again, he rushed it.
Marcus shot was a lot further out towards the side line compared to the Bodo goal which was "inside" the goal area line if that makes sense, he also only had time for one touch on a long bouncing pass while running at full speed so can't really blame him for not setting it up better.
Still should've at least hit the target of course but from that area you'd need a perfect shot or a goalie mistake to score.
He'll participate in every game he's available in until the summer providing he's fit I think. Whether that's starting or off the bench.
Don't agree with it but I don't think Amorim will outright drop him. Big call to come in and drop the highest earner and someone who is still deemed, despite his lack of form for years at this point, a 'franchise player' of the club (for lack of a better phrase).
This ownership didn’t make him highest earner so i doubt anyone will care
Team Rashford will be looking to get him on that plane for WC26 at any cost. If he preforms the total opposite of the player he has become he might have a place at this club to earn his place. I doubt it though.
Even Tuchel blowing smoke up his ass done nothing for him on the pitch that shows us anything more then what we already know. Would he choose a spot for WC26 over a dogfight season that showed significant progress for United? Sadly I suspect his preference would be the PR reps wet dream tournament in North America.
It's a fecking shame because he is a huge asset to the club. Just not on the pitch unfortunately.
Even Tuchel blowing smoke up his ass done nothing for him on the pitch that shows us anything more then what we already know. Would he choose a spot for WC26 over a dogfight season that showed significant progress for United? Sadly I suspect his preference would be the PR reps wet dream tournament in North America.
It's a fecking shame because he is a huge asset to the club. Just not on the pitch unfortunately.
Time to focus on young players that can still grow and improve. Hojlund should start on Sunday and has thrown down the gauntlet tonight.
More energy, better movement, better intensity, and can definitely be coached. Rashford has that window to improve, a long, long time, and he just isn’t up to it anymore.
More energy, better movement, better intensity, and can definitely be coached. Rashford has that window to improve, a long, long time, and he just isn’t up to it anymore.
We can all safely assume that if Rashford had started the game, we don't get the 1st and 3rd goal and quite possible the 2nd one as well.
He would never press like the first goal
He would not make that run like the 3rd goal
He would most likely try to dribble and lose the ball for the 2nd goal
He would never press like the first goal
He would not make that run like the 3rd goal
He would most likely try to dribble and lose the ball for the 2nd goal
Its 100% his back injury.
I saw it yesterday for the first time, he was jn an open channel run and he couldnt make the run he used to be able to because of his back almost holding weights on his back.
The guy has overfried like overfried chips.
Shame, i actually really appreciate his performances for us back in the day - but ive seen enough personally now to be able to see that its the effects from his injuries than some sort of mental problem we cant really see and just assume because people expect players to grow in to linear potential after playing too many football videogames.
Love you Rashford, but i think your body cant handle this anymore.
I saw it yesterday for the first time, he was jn an open channel run and he couldnt make the run he used to be able to because of his back almost holding weights on his back.
The guy has overfried like overfried chips.
Shame, i actually really appreciate his performances for us back in the day - but ive seen enough personally now to be able to see that its the effects from his injuries than some sort of mental problem we cant really see and just assume because people expect players to grow in to linear potential after playing too many football videogames.
Love you Rashford, but i think your body cant handle this anymore.
What is this based on? If he still had a back issue his PR would make sure it gets highlighted in the media.Its 100% his back injury.
I saw it yesterday for the first time, he was jn an open channel run and he couldnt make the run he used to be able to because of his back almost holding weights on his back.
The guy has overfried like overfried chips.
Shame, i actually really appreciate his performances for us back in the day - but ive seen enough personally now to be able to see that its the effects from his injuries than some sort of mental problem we cant really see and just assume because people expect players to grow in to linear potential after playing too many football videogames.
Love you Rashford, but i think your body cant handle this anymore.
He has just not developed and progressed as an elite footballer should have for whatever reason. The best bet would be because he has lost the hunger on account of being given too much too soon.
On his performance yesterday, he was visibly uncomfortable in the 10 role yesterday. His touch and technique are just not good enough to play this role. The writing is on the wall for his time at United and hope both the club and him realise this, and find an amicable solution this summer.
He looks like he’s just not arsed anymore.
Whats you opinion based on? How do you know he mentally doesnt give a feck rather than him physically not having the abilities to play football to a top standard anymore.
The whole Rashford PR thing is cringing - especially when he has media that is dictated by the fans up his back just as they did with Maguire.
Why would he openely not looked arsed to score a goal? Anyone in the world would like to score a goal and he has no intensity to his game to even make simple but fast runs anymore even to open spaces with no defenders.
I know thats not a mentality thing and more physical thing, i can see it from both the way he runs, how fast/slow he runs and even his posture from is GAIT which ive studied in medicine.
He is cooked as a footballer and his wages is not the reason because people can and will detriorate.
Michael owen, Ronaldo 9, Falcao, Hazard, Van Basten are all players & forwards just off the top of my head that deteriorated significantly with injuries whilst Rashford was never near that level in the first place.
I would say there were improvements to be seen. By far not enough to justify his wages but at least some glimpses.
Let’s assume you are right and its a physical issue. It still doesn’t explain the lack of application and presence that anyone who watches with an open mind can see. He drifts in the game, his touch is inconsistent at best and atrocious at worst, he does not track his runners - these usually have nothing to do with physicality and everything to do with concentration and application.
And all the players you mentioned, lost their pace and acceleration, but never lost their sharpness in the box for a prolonged period as Marcus has.
Just doesnt fit the system. If he wasnt a manchester lad he would have been long gone. We need better players in ST and no. 10 position.
Could have scored a half chance, but was really a downgrade to Mount in nearly every respect when came on. Marcus’ recent level of performances simply don’t merit any game time
You mean the exact same run he made vs Ipswich for the goal he scored?
Where do these ‘people’ come out from.
I believe the simple answer is that he has both lost his most important physical attributes AND doesn’t have the right attitude to make up for it with intensity and application.
Unfortunately I don’t think there’s a position for him in this system, he will have a role off the bench for the majority of the season imo.
There is a difference between running straight into space and actually reacting fastest to get ahead of the defender.
If 'people' can't see the difference between the two runs, then they should just go back to where they came from.
That would affect future earnings so doubtful.
just when you think it couldn’t get any worse
He will be given chances and if he doesn't show willingness to work and do as he is asked I think he will finally be sold. I harbour no ill will to the guy. We are the idiots that offered him his insane contract but I get the distinct impression that the people in management now at the club will not put up with behaviour and performances like Rashford has been churning out. If you have to sell him for a pittance to remove his wage or even subsidise his wage to move him on, so be it. Theres no point keeping a player like him around if he isn't contributing.
It’s actually getting boring just constantly shitting on the poor bloke but two things that happened last night really bring home how he doesn’t help himself.
Amad got a yellow card for pulling back a Bodo player who was about to create a really dangerous situation. That player was being chased by Rashford, fresh off the bench, and had ample opportunity to foul him first. And the fans would have loved him for it. But instead he just ambled after him for a few yards and then left Amad to do the dirty work.
Later in the game Garnacho tracked back all the way to the edge of our own six yard box and did a brilliant full length sliding block to cut out a dangerous cut back. Have you ever seen Rashford do anything similar?
I do think he is probably working a bit harder, defensively, this season but the bar is so low. Doing the sort of dirty work that Amad and Garnacho did last night would go a long way towards easing the constant criticism and it’s not difficult. Literally any footballer can do that sort of stuff. It’s so frustrating that he doesn’t just muck in a bit more.
Amad got a yellow card for pulling back a Bodo player who was about to create a really dangerous situation. That player was being chased by Rashford, fresh off the bench, and had ample opportunity to foul him first. And the fans would have loved him for it. But instead he just ambled after him for a few yards and then left Amad to do the dirty work.
Later in the game Garnacho tracked back all the way to the edge of our own six yard box and did a brilliant full length sliding block to cut out a dangerous cut back. Have you ever seen Rashford do anything similar?
I do think he is probably working a bit harder, defensively, this season but the bar is so low. Doing the sort of dirty work that Amad and Garnacho did last night would go a long way towards easing the constant criticism and it’s not difficult. Literally any footballer can do that sort of stuff. It’s so frustrating that he doesn’t just muck in a bit more.
I can picture what a Giggs sliding tackle looks like, a Beckham tackle, a Hughes tackle, Hojlund, Dalot, Casemiro, Rooney, McT.. name a player and you can visualise what way they tackle. I don't know what a Rashford tackle looks like
Been the case for almost 2 years now. I think he needs to move on
Enlighten me please
Stinking the place out. This season should be his last at this club.
Yup. Which says it all really. I honestly can’t remember him ever making a sliding tackle? And obviously judging a striker by how well he tackles seems a bit mental but it’s one of those things that would be easy to do and earn so much goodwill.
Last night was the first match I went to this season and you could sense that the crowd want to get behind him. Applauded throughout his warm up. We’re all rooting for him to turn a corner. He just gives us so little in return.
No, no... it's us the fans that are letting him down, because we want him to be this bad and not give enough energy and will on the field.
There’s only place for one of him and Garnacho. And Rashford’s level has been consistently crap for 3 out of 4 seasons now. Selling him is the only sensible option.
win lose or draw, sub, stinker or man of the match..... this thread will always be crazy active.
Hoijlund stepped up yesterday, hopefully Rashford will too very soon....
Hoijlund stepped up yesterday, hopefully Rashford will too very soon....
Yeah I’m with you on this. He looked decent and was trying. I do think that we struggle in that game if he starts though. Good to see him coming off the bench and getting into it. He should be on the bench for the next month or so at least. Our other attackers were just trying to get the ball to Rasmus as efficiently as possible and that is effective instead of letting Rashford lose it repeatedly
Get rid.
He was crap for 3-4 seasons....when 2 seasons ago he carried us almost by himself to 3rd place...why do some fans have such short memory, it amazes me...
And when I look at Garnacho's shooting and decision making, I just hope Rashford can find back at least 50% of his form.
3 out of the last 4 seasons. Not 3 or 4 seasons consecutively. Rashford absolutely should be ditched.
I just wish he'd get to play in the position Garna gets to be wasteful in.
I believe if you flipped their positions yesterday both would have another goal.
Rashford is best off the left, and Garna aint bad off the right. Yes, left is possibly Garna's best as well, but he doesn't drop off as much on the right. While he's still learning his decisionmaking it would be better to keep Rash on the left in my opinion.
Yes, Rash got to play many games on the left under Ten Hag where he went invisible, but that's cause he was instructed to stay on the touchline instead of going on goal where he's at his best. Under Amorim that left attacker is overlapped by the lwb for the touchline, and can instead run into the box.
I believe if you flipped their positions yesterday both would have another goal.
Rashford is best off the left, and Garna aint bad off the right. Yes, left is possibly Garna's best as well, but he doesn't drop off as much on the right. While he's still learning his decisionmaking it would be better to keep Rash on the left in my opinion.
Yes, Rash got to play many games on the left under Ten Hag where he went invisible, but that's cause he was instructed to stay on the touchline instead of going on goal where he's at his best. Under Amorim that left attacker is overlapped by the lwb for the touchline, and can instead run into the box.