dinostar77
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Still hasn't learnt when to pass the ball at the right time.
Yes, when we did break, they swarmed players and turned the ball back over, or we thumped it aimlessly long.
Wingers were tracking back as well, doubling up. The only joy we got was winning it high, something Rashford wouldn't do and others weren't able to do again.
You won't hear any arguments from me about hooking Kane.
Provided you can find him and defend, which we couldn't. If the plan was to defend, win the ball back and break quick with Rashford, there's a lot that needs to happen before Rashford gets involved and we weren't doing any of it well.

Still hasn't learnt when to pass the ball at the right time.
Had a chance to put someone through, can't recall who instead decided on a stupid shot from 35 years out.One assist, put another on a plate for the lump Toney to completely miskick. 90% pass accuracy. A couple of excellent dribbles.
Weird time to moan.
Think for some it's 24 / 7 unfortunately. I think he did pretty well and if we end up keeping him, he's shown he can be useful.Weird time to moan.
The one time he did not play thorugh was for Saka, just before his nutmeg (which is on every highlight reel) which he righyfully backed up by a very good shot as the nutmeg opened up the space to shoot. He could have played through Saka before the nutmeg, immediately apologized to him after the shot, but it was still a good bit of play.Had a chance to put someone through, can't recall who instead decided on a stupid shot from 35 years out.
He's an utter waste of space and the sooner it's get rid of a cancerous bad influence like him the better.
Had a chance to put someone through, can't recall who instead decided on a stupid shot from 35 years out.
He's an utter waste of space and the sooner it's get rid of a cancerous bad influence like him the better.
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I think a lot of the posters in here have never played football on a competitive level otherwise they would understand such things a bit better.
I think that's a little harsh.Had a chance to put someone through, can't recall who instead decided on a stupid shot from 35 years out.
He's an utter waste of space and the sooner it's get rid of a cancerous bad influence like him the better.
How is Bellingham meant to pass to anyone in that scenario? He ran into 3 people. Also, in that scenario that is likely Rashford's position and if someone breaks with him, 3 people crowd him out and he loses the ball with your attacker overcommitted.You’ve literally provided a video where our AM breaks out, and has absolutely no-one anywhere near him to pass to. Not a single player stays with him or breaks beyond him.
Kane doesn’t even pretend to run and the other player in the picture is a fecking full back who also makes zero effort to give Jude an outball or take any Argentina player away
Argentina can swarm him because they have absolutely no-one else to worry about. That’s the whole point, a fresh Saka and fresh Rashford there absolutely give them massive problems and prevent 5 players from swarming our one.
Yep I can't stand him and his 300k a week that's anchoring the club to its past failures and not allowing it to move on.Ah, you’re one of those angry ones who absolutely can’t stand him.
Fair enough of course you can only look at last night and see only the one moment he probably should’ve passed.
How is Bellingham meant to pass to anyone in that scenario? He ran into 3 people.
It's because he's wide you can do that, he can only go two ways that's a threat, forward or inside. It only needed two player to push him out there and the CB covering as he came up the line.That’s the whole point again, they could be three people because there was only one attacker. If you have two fast wingers running with him, they cannot swarm Jude.
It's because he's wide you can do that, he can only go two ways that's a threat, forward or inside. It only needed two player to push him out there and the CB covering as he came up the line.
He has the same type of bizarre cult worship on this forum as martial did.
So how do we feel if we can't move him on? Have we been burned beyond redemption with Marcus? Is it possible he's at a different point now, having had the Barca dream taken away? Pushing on, older and wiser? Fresh shot at the boyhood dream under a different kind of manager? A chance to change the narrative?
Because the runners don't matter if you can send him into a cul de sac. My point was the defending by Argentina was brave and the only way an attacker comes out of that situation is to burn them with pace, some how get the ball out of being closed down by 3 players a la Messi or win a foul or throw.But it doesn’t matter where he is if say Watkins and Saka are running inside him and taking defenders away. What are you not getting here? No one was running beyond or even with Jude, that was the problem in those last 25 minutes and why every single tv expert even in Germany are slating Tuchel for not putting fresh attacking legs on.
Fine. It's not ideal, but looking at Gordon and Morgan Rogers price, what can we really expect to get for a reasonable deal? Anyone thinks he's completely useless is being hyperbolic, he obviously has talent and will be useful.So how do we feel if we can't move him on? Have we been burned beyond redemption with Marcus? Is it possible he's at a different point now, having had the Barca dream taken away? Pushing on, older and wiser? Fresh shot at the boyhood dream under a different kind of manager? A chance to change the narrative?
Because the runners don't matter if you can send him into a cul de sac.
So how do we feel if we can't move him on? Have we been burned beyond redemption with Marcus? Is it possible he's at a different point now, having had the Barca dream taken away? Pushing on, older and wiser? Fresh shot at the boyhood dream under a different kind of manager? A chance to change the narrative?
His wage is going to cause massive issues. A player that is on the bench on that type of money is going to make others in the squad wonder why they ain't on that wage when they play week in week out. He needs removed, but that is looking like a near impossibility.Will he sit quietly as a sub and not kick up a fuss? If he's capable of that he can be useful. But my preference is we do get rid of him.
Agree but United are in a tough situation where no one wants him. It's best to try to make the best out of a bad situation.His wage is going to cause massive issues. A player that is on the bench on that type of money is going to make others in the squad wonder why they ain't on that wage when they play week in week out. He needs removed, but that is looking like a near impossibility.
Oftentimes this can happen, I know. I doubt it in this case, because of how much it’s been publicised the reasons for it.His wage is going to cause massive issues. A player that is on the bench on that type of money is going to make others in the squad wonder why they ain't on that wage when they play week in week out. He needs removed, but that is looking like a near impossibility.
They've already done it from when he first breaks out. Watch it again. 4 - Montiel never even looks inside, covers and then 13 - Romero comes across to cover the line too. At no point in that sequence was Jude ever getting round his man or pass inside being on. They were being brave to win the ball back to try and win the game. That's how they defended all game.You think with Rashford and Saka running on the inside those defenders ignore them and swarm Jude? Haha
The risk they run there is that Jude just flicks a ball down the line or inside and it’s game over.
He isn't getting that wage at any other club. He has an ego, but he isn't dumb to leave 34 million quid behind.To save us playing him and get rid of his wages, I think I'd consider releasing him on a free
We all do it at our own workplaces, it will happen at united as well. I also feel the same way with MountOftentimes this can happen, I know. I doubt it in this case, because of how much it’s been publicised the reasons for it.
What have you done at your workplace?We all do it at our own workplaces, it will happen at united as well. I also feel the same way with Mount
They've already done it from when he first breaks out. Watch it again. 4 - Montiel never even looks inside, covers and then 13 - Romero comes across to cover the line too. At no point in that sequence was Jude ever getting round his man or pass inside being on. They were being brave to win the ball back to try and win the game. That's how they defended all game.
Demanded more money from his boss because Rashford is on 300kWhat have you done at your workplace?
Jude never gets past the player, he goes wide. I'll leave it there as we're not even seeing the game the same way and I'm derailing the thread.This is like pulling teeth, pause at 0.08 just as Jude gets passed the first player and now imagine that instead of O’Reilly, you have a player much faster than all of them making a sprint beyond Jude. It’s then a simple pass down the line before that player is one on one with the CB forced to come over, and if then had the counter attacking speed of Saka more central, they are fecked.
It’d be suicidal defending against runners, but when England completely stopped attacking and went 5 at the back and Kane is midfield, it was a no brainer for them and carried absolutely zero risk.
Jude never gets past the player, he goes wide. I'll leave it there as we're not even seeing the game the same way and I'm derailing the thread.
What the hell are you on about? Most employees look at what each other is being paid and get annoyed that others do very little for what they get.Demanded more money from his boss because Rashford is on 300k