Marcus Rashford - Barcelona Watch | Athletic: Progress made for permanent deal

Don't see the point of bringing him back at all. Let's just move on. He is playing well at Barcelona, that is great and hopefully means finding a buyer is easier.

If he were to come back here he would be third choice on the left behind Dorgu (who works 10x harder than Rashford ever did) and Cunha (also hard working and creative). We could maybe only play him against small teams in the cup games where his lack of work rate is not that important. There is also no way there is space for him at striker where both Mbuemo and Sesko are better options.
 
ShoePolish said:
Really bizzare how he seems perplexed fans are on his case unjustly after putting in the shifts that he does. Has he seen the clips of himself like the one v Luton where Barkley jogs around him, or City in FA cup final where he doesn't bother going for a 2nd ball, among others?
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The ones that really got to me was... I remember he scored a goal (cant remember against who, pretty easy tap in if i remember correct) after playing terrible for along period, and he celebrated with the stop talking gesture as he was being criticised for his effort/performances.. Then in an interview after said "people should judge him by how he does on the pitch."

I genuinely thought after that he was about to show us all he had gotten over whatever the problem was, and bust a gut, put in some great performances.. He came out the next few games.. same old rubbish. walking about, pulling out of challenges, not going up for headers, looked like he didnt want the ball etc.. It was pathetic to be honest, especially after biting back at fans to judge him by his on pitch displays. Shocking attitude.

I wish the lad all the best wherever he ends up, but his time at United is done. he had his chance and he threw it in the bin and didnt hide doing it. Hopefully whoever the new manager is doesn't fall into that trap of giving him another chance.
 
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If we're just making pointless comparisons across leagues, there's a bloke in the Danish league sat on 23 G/A.
 
Rolaholic said:
If you say so mate.

It is fun watching people who don't watch Barcelona argue how meaningless his contributions this season have been all day :lol:
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We've also got people who don't watch Barcelona arguing about how meaningful they are.
 
Hope they pay us and we get his wages off the balance sheet. Any talk of him revitalizing his career here needs to stop.
 
thepolice123 said:
If he agrees to a wage cut, I’m sure they will pay for him. They don’t really have proper backups for Yamal or Raphinha right now. It looks like his teammates like him, and he’s definitely made an impact when Raphinha's injured.
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The total package is the question. Rashford has done good for Barca this season, and it sounds like he’s straightened himself up by the sounds of it. But his wage now is higher than the Barca superstars that he is not as good as. He is not getting anything close to that anywere else than at United. He’s going to have to decide like Sanch wether he likes his football carreer best or his bank account best.

Or United has to make it worth it for Barca to take him off our hands.
 
RedRoach said:
Don't see the point of bringing him back at all. Let's just move on. He is playing well at Barcelona, that is great and hopefully means finding a buyer is easier.
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Rolaholic said:
If you say so mate.

It is fun watching people who don't watch Barcelona argue how meaningless his contributions this season have been all day :lol:
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If he’s smart though he stays there and then can go for another big contract in Italy or even premier league.
Grande said:
The total package is the question. Rashford has done good for Barca this season, and it sounds like he’s straightened himself up by the sounds of it. But his wage now is higher than the Barca superstars that he is not as good as. He is not getting anything close to that anywere else than at United. He’s going to have to decide like Sanch whether he likes his football carreer best or his bank account best.

Or United has to make it worth it for Barca to take him off our hands.
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If the fee is very low then it pays out for the wages.

It’s also over a longer amount of time isn’t it?
I could also see him taking a lower wage considering playing for Barca changes are he can get one more contract
 
Alex99 said:
Lots of players can play well when everything is going well and everyone around them is playing well.

The problem with Rashford is that the club thought he was like Bruno, and could play well when those around him weren't.

He's a shrinker, and will regress to the performance of everyone else when times are tough, but he's being paid like a leader/talisman that raises the performances of those around him.

There's no room for him here any more.
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This is exactly what United's problem with Rashford was and why the Barca "success" seems so misleading to many fans here. United gave Rashford the 10, 300k+ a week and asked him to carry one of the biggest club's in the world on his shoulders. He neither has the talent nor the mentality for that. At Barca, he is a 25 mil player that comes off the bench and stretches defenses and scores goals. He is what everyone expects him to be. Nothing more nothing less.
 
I like him and have sympathy for him. But his time at Utd is done.
Unlike sancho, he has some value in the market so hopefully we can recover some. Hope he is more pragmatic than Sancho ,reduces his wage and signs for another club.
 
TheRedHearted said:
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If he’s smart though he stays there and then can go for another big contract in Italy or even premier league.

If the fee is very low then it pays out for the wages.

It’s also over a longer amount of time isn’t it?
I could also see him taking a lower wage considering playing for Barca changes are he can get one more contract
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Why would Rashford get into that lineup over Amad, Dorgu or event Mount all of whom are harder working and contribute more to team cohesion? Hell I would even say Lacey deserves more opportunities first
 


I don't think this would be the right move for a variety of reasons. But also not the worst move? We need a LW, but I think we need an Amad type winger on the left, one who can carry, run at players with tight dribbling and create. Rashford is a wide forward. The issue is it's really hard to sign those players and they are rare, so id rather Rashford than nobody and from a business POV, it's probably easier to just keep the player who nobody wants to pay up for for another year and focus the funds on the midfield.

There is also the big risk that he falls into old habits here and we don't get this version of Rashford.
 
bosnian_red said:


I don't think this would be the right move for a variety of reasons. But also not the worst move? We need a LW, but I think we need an Amad type winger on the left, one who can carry, run at players with tight dribbling and create. Rashford is a wide forward. The issue is it's really hard to sign those players and they are rare, so id rather Rashford than nobody and from a business POV, it's probably easier to just keep the player who nobody wants to pay up for for another year and focus the funds on the midfield.

There is also the big risk that he falls into old habits here and we don't get this version of Rashford.
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Shouldn’t really be Carrick’s decision if the club has a wage and culture reset in mind.
 
Anustart89 said:
Shouldn’t really be Carrick’s decision if the club has a wage and culture reset in mind.
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Its one of those where it's more useful to the club to keep him than loan him out, but if we can sell him then that is probably preferred. We need a LW, but do you throw 50m and 150k p/w on it when we have the midfield to focus on, or do we just keep him another year or 2 if we keep Carrick or hire Tuchel, both of who we know would probably make good use of him.
 
bosnian_red said:


I don't think this would be the right move for a variety of reasons. But also not the worst move? We need a LW, but I think we need an Amad type winger on the left, one who can carry, run at players with tight dribbling and create. Rashford is a wide forward. The issue is it's really hard to sign those players and they are rare, so id rather Rashford than nobody and from a business POV, it's probably easier to just keep the player who nobody wants to pay up for for another year and focus the funds on the midfield.

There is also the big risk that he falls into old habits here and we don't get this version of Rashford.
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Pisses off two managers in EtH and Amorim with unprofessional behaviour but Carrick says “I can fix him”.

It’s best for his career and for us that we don’t go back. We’re already pretty stacked for forward players anyway.
 
bosnian_red said:
Its one of those where it's more useful to the club to keep him than loan him out, but if we can sell him then that is probably preferred. We need a LW, but do you throw 50m and 150k p/w on it when we have the midfield to focus on, or do we just keep him another year or 2 if we keep Carrick or hire Tuchel, both of who we know would probably make good use of him.
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Yes we do that as long as we can get somebody to even cover his wages because unless you are planning to keep him beyond his current contract it would Still be cheaper that way .
 
He's very clearly coming back. Barca dont pay for players. Dont think its a bad thing tbh. Especially if he's playing for a new contract / move in summer 2027.
 
Carl said:
He's very clearly coming back. Barca dont pay for players. Dont think its a bad thing tbh. Especially if he's playing for a new contract / move in summer 2027.
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He would go on loan till his contract runs out he is done at United .
 
bosnian_red said:
Its one of those where it's more useful to the club to keep him than loan him out, but if we can sell him then that is probably preferred. We need a LW, but do you throw 50m and 150k p/w on it when we have the midfield to focus on, or do we just keep him another year or 2 if we keep Carrick or hire Tuchel, both of who we know would probably make good use of him.
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I disagree with the first sentence of your post. Again, he’s the flagbearer of the culture and wage structure they’re trying to reset, and a hugely influential character on the squad. Even if he doesn’t come back we’re not going to spend on the LW position in a 4-2-3-1 with Cunha and Dorgu there with Amad and Mbeumo able to fill in temporarily in case of injury clusterfeck so I think the club would do well to get him out in the summer for a variety of reasons
 
Has a senior player ever gone on loan and then gone on to succeed on their return back to their parent club?
 
Well at least Carrick is doing the opposite of Amorim and not crashing his market value. We can just call Barca's bluff and pretend we want him back.
 
Would love Rashford back. He is a local lad who went through a hard time under ETH and Amorim.
The talent is definitely there, he is the type of player who need love, an arm around his shoulder to perform.

Barcelona agree a fee then say they don't want to pay it any more. Unprofessional and trying to take the piss.

Carrick knows him well and can bring the best out of him. He is also a senior player and we need a LW. Keep him!
 
gajender said:
Then you are being naive Rashford was pushed out by Ineos due to his wages it wasnt just Amorim's decision .
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Perhaps. It was helpful that Amorim didnt play with left wingers though. Carrick does and the incoming manager likely will too. So they will be forced to spend money on buying one.
 
PoTMS said:
Has a senior player ever gone on loan and then gone on to succeed on their return back to their parent club?
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Dalot. Wasn’t good enough so shipped out to Milan where he was bang average. Came back to us and conned himself to being a starter and member of player leadership team despite still being inept
 
Carl said:
Perhaps. It was helpful that Amorim didnt play with left wingers though. Carrick does and the incoming manager likely will too. So they will be forced to spend money on buying one.
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They would spend the money if they want a left winger no doubt about that rather than bringing back Rashford .
 
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