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He very visibly wasn’t trying here, so however you feel about him, he wasn’t happy or motivated to be here, and that’s the most important thing.
I hope the fee gets agreed in good time so that he can enjoy the rest of his career and so our club can have players that visibly want to be here and fight in every game.
I hope the fee gets agreed in good time so that he can enjoy the rest of his career and so our club can have players that visibly want to be here and fight in every game.
His attitude wasn't stellar under Mourinho either.
Mainoo?
That goal contributions stat just proves how meaningless it is. It ignores overall play. A forward can have decent goal contributions while offering little pressing, link play, movement, hold-up play, or defensive work. There’s nobody on the planet who puts Rashford and Lamal on par in any way.
Zirkzee achieves a “goal contribution” roughly every 130 minutes in league games. Extrapolating that out it’s the equivalent of 26 goal contributions a season if he had opportunity to play every league game. Let’s head to the Zirkzee thread to argue the lad is an absolute baller and try and dissuade the club from moving him on this summer.
Zirkzee achieves a “goal contribution” roughly every 130 minutes in league games. Extrapolating that out it’s the equivalent of 26 goal contributions a season if he had opportunity to play every league game. Let’s head to the Zirkzee thread to argue the lad is an absolute baller and try and dissuade the club from moving him on this summer.
Scraping the barrel here using Zirkzee. Numbers on the board instead of hypotheticals.
Yes that’s the context that’s missing from some of the conversations. He had clearly lost motivation, stretching back several years. Jogging around, no smile on his face, hunched shoulders, bad body language, late nights partying etc. At one point, I actually said that he looked to me to be a player who will retire young at 30 because he’d fallen out of love with football. I wouldn’t want him back now, but I’m happy for him that he’s motivated again and playing with a smile on his face again
How have you worked out those figures for Zirkzee? I have him providing a goal contribution about once every 250 minutes in the league. It was slightly better in Italy but still nowhere near 130 minutes.
Yeah, good post. This was a guy who flew to Belfast to go on the lash, the week of an FA Cup game, then missed training the next day because he was "ill" The sort of shit that had Fergie getting rid of some of the most popular players in the club when he took over. And Amorim was managing a different club at the time. The notion that Rashford was cruelly and unfairly frozen out by Amorim seriously misses the point.
Well he’s on fire at Barca but they don’t think he’s worth buying even though he was on fire at Villa and even scored 2x vs Preston
Can’t think why the football world isn’t clamouring for him
You can point to him as an example why clubs extensively scout in person rather than just whacking out a calculator and signing anyone who has a better ‘goal involvements’ ratio per minute than a genuinely top player
What a mess
Need a transfer ban, if I'm FloPer I'd be hammering the Spanish FA for this.
Don't a lot of clubs buy like this where they pay in instalments? I think we owe quite a big wedge from previous buys.
Thought the same. I thought United were in a fairly similar situation to this fairly recently, but could be wrong.
Anyone we can take off them to sweeten the deal?
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I’d settle for Yamal and £20m
Generous
The problem isn’t that they pay in installments. The issue is that they have huge financial problems
Yeah. We can fund our instalments, they can’t. Big difference when talking about the subject
Yeah. We can fund our instalments, they can’t. Big difference when talking about the subject
They just need to pawn some shit off first.
I’ve given up expecting any proper consequences for the nonsense they have pulled off over the years. Too big to fail in the eyes of Spain
No chance they get any real consequences I agree. The Spanish league policy of impoverishing the rest of the league outside them two with the tv money allocation is all you needed to see. The Spanish league can’t let them fail. We all lock AM because of their heinous football but the cars are massively stacked against them with Barce and RM so it’s pretty impressive they compete as much as they do
I really disliked him near the end with us, he just looked so miserable. But while we’re all delighted for Bruno’s assist record, it’s also true that Rashford has hit 14 assists himself this season AND 14 goals, to be fair that’s pretty good going.
Would anyone here have him back next season? If he could slot back in and actually look happy again?
Personally I think no as would be worried about the dressing room but I dunno maybe there’s a turnaround story here?
Would anyone here have him back next season? If he could slot back in and actually look happy again?
Personally I think no as would be worried about the dressing room but I dunno maybe there’s a turnaround story here?
Said as much before but if Barca has sorted his head out then yeah he’d be a solid option on the left side, and might come back with a point to prove.
The dressing room balance thing is overblown, Bruno seems to get on with him at least going off the exchanges on social media.
Mainoo looks up to him, and I expect the other English lads like Maguire and Shaw get on with him too.
Who is actually taking issue with him being back in that dressing room? Dalot maybe? Casemiro possibly but he’s off.
Ineos don't want him at United anymore everything else is moot .
Infact I am fairly certain even if United had to pay major part of his salary to facilitate his loan move if things come to that they would do it .
Willing to pay 50 million plus for Bastoni, shows they have money. United need to stand firm, Marcus is up for sale at well below his real value, if his wages are an issue, that's a him thing and he needs to lower his demands.
Maybe they just rate Bastoni more.
No he is not reality is there is no Market for him we are kind of stuck with him till his contract runs out .
I could see plenty of PL clubs being interested in taking him, he gets you goals and assists.
Yeah not happening may be if we pay him off and he is on free otherwise best we can hope is another slightly subsidised loan .
They do. He's a CB and they need a starter
They also need a starting CF to replace Lewandowski
That's what screws over Rashford here - Flick and his staff don't see him as a CF option. He's Raphinha's backup. A great backup, but still ultimately just that
The risk is going to be breaking any wage structure. If one player can get £220k sitting on bench it’s going to piss off those that can’t. Or indeed those that aren’t earning those wages when they’re starting
Agreed, with Rashford its like playing good when ever he wants to.
He is bending his back to get his move to Barca and running hard yards proves his heart is not set on UTD anyway, so its good for him get a move, reports saying he is willing to sacrifice 40% further his salary to finalize the move to Barca.
His real estate business is doing well so money is not a big thing for him, on top of that his idea of "playing for Barca is the pinnacle" is what
driving him i think.
I wish he accepts any offers from Real (if Jose really wants) or from Chelsea/Spurs for 50M range which would benefit us more.
I fancy Rashford to score against us at some point in the CL next season. He is looking fairly handy again but this chapter is over. He doesn't press and we aren't a good enough team to carry him
And the rest..
If he was up for it (and I think he would be if he is still on his same wages), I'd take him back at United in a shot. Give him no.10 back, Cunha no.11, and he'd be ideal as now playing across the front 3 without the pressure of being the main man.
A Mourinho move, take Rashford to Madrid to annoy Barca.
They definitely need another wide left forward with questionable work rate!
Not forgetting that other alumnus, Joey Barton PhD
We all have issues with one or two players at the club at the moment, but they’re all industrious and work hard. I think we can do without seeing this guy stroll around the pitch and reading statements in the week along the lines of “Sources close to the player believe that Marcus Rashford is seriously considering giving a toss in the next fixture”