Marcus Rashford - Barcelona Watch

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We should definitely cut off contact with Barca and move on to other interested parties...
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Fair enough. At least that's something we're all in full agreement of.... Fcuk off Barca

This thread really shows how unhinged people get over this though
 
gajender said:
There would be no lowball offer from Barca they arent signing Rashford permanently it would be subsidised loan if Rashford insist on playing there and we Will have to accept that .
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I keep reading that about "Rashford wants Barca". Club should lose 15-20 mil just because Rashford wants Barca?
You think that he would be interested to sit on the stands next 2 years and just collect wages? I don't think so.

Both parties want Rashford being sold. We did our part in setting his price on bare minimum for player like him. Now, it is on him to lower wage demands and find suitable club. Because......that is how business works. With both sides adapting.
 
Andycoleno9 said:
I keep reading that about "Rashford wants Barca". Club should lose 15-20 mil just because Rashford wants Barca?
You think that he would be interested to sit on the stands next 2 years and just collect wages? I don't think so.

Both parties want Rashford being sold. We did our part in setting his price on bare minimum for player like him. Now, it is on him to lower wage demands and find suitable club. Because......that is how business works. With both sides adapting.
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And you think Rashford would forgo his 15 m because United fecked up , no body is paying Rashford more than 150 k wages a week along with transfer fee to United .

It doesnt matter what transfer fee we ask when there is hardly any Market for him .
We should count our Lucky stars if we can shift him without paying him off .
 
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gajender said:
And you think Rashford would forgo his 15 m because United fecked up , no body is paying Rashford more than 150 k wages a week along with transfer fee to United .

It doesnt matter what transfer fee ask when there is hardly any Market for him .
We should count our Lucky stars if we can shift him without paying him off .
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You think that 28y old player would be interested in training with reserves for next two years?

He wants to go, we want him gone. We did our part in lowering transfer fee. Now it is on him to lower his wage demands IF he wants to play. I don't know why would Rashford get everything (salary, playing time and club which he wants) and club gets nothing.
 
Andycoleno9 said:
You think that 28y old player would be interested in training with reserves for next two years?

He wants to go, we want him gone. We did our part in lowering transfer fee. Now it is on him to lower his wage demands IF he wants to play. I don't know why would Rashford get everything (salary, playing time and club which he wants) and club gets nothing.
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Do you think United would threaten to send him to reserves well that could definitely make things interesting .
 
Threatening to banish him to the reserves for 2 years makes us as bad as Barca here
 
Andycoleno9 said:
You think that 28y old player would be interested in training with reserves for next two years?

He wants to go, we want him gone. We did our part in lowering transfer fee. Now it is on him to lower his wage demands IF he wants to play. I don't know why would Rashford get everything (salary, playing time and club which he wants) and club gets nothing.
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Highly unlikely, if he's not sold. Then he'll go on loan again. Failing that he would be brought back into the squad next season.

United aren't going to be paying somebody 300k a week to sit on their arse.
 
Pretty sure his current contract was one of the last Glazer contracts handed out before INEOS came in. They gave out some pretty fecking awful ones like handing £40k a week to Brandon Williams, but this one’s definitely up there in the top 3 considering what we’re getting out of it.
 
He has been petulant and his effort on the pitch has been questionable, buts it’s insulting to him to be compared to Sancho.

Sancho is awful and Villa were very obviously worse the moment he entered play. He is physical weak and slow.

Rashford is a threat at any team and he would compete for a start at any club in the world.

We need to start to act like a top club. He is a real asset. Madrid just paid 400k for Konate for feck sake. Rashford’s wages are not obscene and there will be a number of clubs who would gladly roll the dice on him.

feck Barcelona and let’s get what he is worth.
 
Why are people angry with Barca about this, I don't get it? Because they're not dumb enough to pay Rashford over the odds like we did? (Notwithstanding they're pretty dumb with some recent moves they made)
 
gajender said:
Do you think United would threaten to send him to reserves well that could definitely make things interesting .
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I hope so. We've already done him a favour by allowing him to go on a free loan to his dream club, and we've drastically lowered our asking price.

As for the money, if he ends up sitting in the stands for the next two years on €300k, what kind of contract and which clubs can he realistically expect in 2028 after two years without playing? How much money will he lose in sponsorship deals? How much money will his agent lose?

I don't know, but it seems to me that he's much better off signing for a club now on a five-year deal worth €150k per year than spending the next two years on €300k while not playing football at all.
 
Ole'sgunnarwin said:
Why are people angry with Barca about this, I don't get it? Because they're not dumb enough to pay Rashford over the odds like we did? (Notwithstanding they're pretty dumb with some recent moves they made)
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Because they behave like thugs on transfer market.
We had a deal with them about price. They can say no and that is it. But, now they want to change that deal.

But, that is Barca. They always behave like that. That club has no shame.
 
Make him go down with the wages. We are trapped now after securing CL. If you look at Casemiro though, he was a higher profile layer than Rashford now, but still CDM, we are looking at a fair price I think. But eventually if we get 5m and him off our books, it will be a win anyway, better than going for another loan which will make his price to go down again. He should serve as an example of how not to give away big salary. Should be performance based anyway - big hunk of it
 
When other clubs offering more transfer money and value him more he is still playing games with us by forcing a move to Barca.

Barca wants him at 11M and offer only 50% of his UTD salary and still this guy wants only Barca.
 
Andycoleno9 said:
Because they behave like thugs on transfer market.
We had a deal with them about price. They can say no and that is it. But, now they want to change that deal.

But, that is Barca. They always behave like that. That club has no shame.
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Ah ok, didn't realize we had agreed a price, fair enough
 
Ole'sgunnarwin said:
Why are people angry with Barca about this, I don't get it? Because they're not dumb enough to pay Rashford over the odds like we did? (Notwithstanding they're pretty dumb with some recent moves they made)
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Because Barca have the money to splash and they just pick and choose who to play around with. And then there is a small thing that we are United fans and are thinking from our POV and not Barca's.
 
Bobby_2024 said:
When other clubs offering more transfer money and value him more he is still playing games with us by forcing a move to Barca.

Barca wants him at 11M and offer only 50% of his UTD salary and still this guy wants only Barca.
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Do you have a source for this, I keep bloody asking but no-one ever gives me one.
 
Surely Newcastle could do with him, give us some of that Gordon money, they are still a big enough club that he can say it’s a good move for him, be part of the Geordie rebuild.
 
Bobby_2024 said:
When other clubs offering more transfer money and value him more he is still playing games with us by forcing a move to Barca.

Barca wants him at 11M and offer only 50% of his UTD salary and still this guy wants only Barca.
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Maybe the club shouldn’t have allowed Amorim to put him in the “bomb squad” and train away from the first team.

If a company that you had worked at for over 10 years did that to you, would you be doing them any favors on the way out?
 
gaffs said:
No. It was that idiocy from Amorim that helped drive his price into the ground and allow him to dictate the only club he would move to.
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What Amorim did was with blessings from Upper Management and I don't think it had much impact on Rashford's value either his contract had already ensured he is an unsaleable asset .
 
Just cut ties with Barcelona, just never deal with them again.

Its obvious what they are doing. They signed Anthony Gordon and are actively trying to get Alverez, then since they've spent so much, they go to United and say, "we are poor now, so if you do want to offload him, we are only paying half".

Many said here when he left, that Barcelona were going to try trick their way into not paying the full fee.
 
SungSam7 said:
Just cut ties with Barcelona, just never deal with them again.

Its obvious what they are doing. They signed Anthony Gordon and are actively trying to get Alverez, then since they've spent so much, they go to United and say, "we are poor now, so if you do want to offload him, we are only paying half".

Many said here when he left, that Barcelona were going to try trick their way into not paying the full fee.
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It was an option they are well within their rights to renegotiate stop being emotional , I'll say take 10 m if the offer is real and Rashford isnt demanding a pay off or roll the dice but risk getting into a situation where we end up subsidising his loan later in the window anyway .
 
Maluco said:
He has been petulant and his effort on the pitch has been questionable, buts it’s insulting to him to be compared to Sancho.

Sancho is awful and Villa were very obviously worse the moment he entered play. He is physical weak and slow.

Rashford is a threat at any team and he would compete for a start at any club in the world.

We need to start to act like a top club. He is a real asset. Madrid just paid 400k for Konate for feck sake. Rashford’s wages are not obscene and there will be a number of clubs who would gladly roll the dice on him.

feck Barcelona and let’s get what he is worth.
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I dont see clubs lining up. Do you?

What he's worth?
 
SungSam7 said:
Just cut ties with Barcelona, just never deal with them again.

Its obvious what they are doing. They signed Anthony Gordon and are actively trying to get Alverez, then since they've spent so much, they go to United and say, "we are poor now, so if you do want to offload him, we are only paying half".

Many said here when he left, that Barcelona were going to try trick their way into not paying the full fee.
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If you're good enough you're cheap enough.

Rashford for whatever their matrix is not good enough for them to part with 30M

They're simply stringing us along with their lip service. Who would have known.

Rashford is not worth 300k per week. Nor 30m on top of that.
 
Sky1981 said:
I dont see clubs lining up. Do you?

What he's worth?
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Sky1981 said:
If you're good enough you're cheap enough.

Rashford for whatever their matrix is not good enough for them to part with 30M

They're simply stringing us along with their lip service. Who would have known.

Rashford is not worth 300k per week. Nor 30m on top of that.
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This most of the fans are Still in denial that Rashford have basically no Market where we get any transfer fee and dont have to pay him off .
He is a 125-150 k a week player on 300-350 k week wages for next 2 years good Luck moving him on, getting fee for him is a pipe Dream chances are United gonna end up subsidising his loans for next 2 years .
 
bosskeano said:
That’s why if they want to wait you move rashford on to another team and tell Barca to suck dik
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You can't force Rashford to sign up for another team, if he doesn't want to. If he chooses to drag this on all summer, Barca get their loan deal, Rashy gets his full salary. Its a win-win for both of them.
United can only force Rashford to stay and that will cost 325k pw.
 
RedDevil@84 said:
You can't force Rashford to sign up for another team, if he doesn't want to. If he chooses to drag this on all summer, Barca get their loan deal, Rashy gets his full salary. Its a win-win for both of them.
United can only force Rashford to stay and that will cost 325k pw.
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But I think that's where the problem lies. Going by their signing or Gordan and other transfer rumours, it appears Barca don't want Rashford. They are preferencing other players.
 
Garnacho Libre said:
But I think that's where the problem lies. Going by their signing or Gordan and other transfer rumours, it appears Barca don't want Rashford. They are preferencing other players.
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If Barca don't want Rashford, even on a loan, then they would not be trying to come up with lowball offers. Though one could argue that all rumors are wrong and Barca have already informed United they don't want him and media is just not aware of it.
 
RedDevil@84 said:
If Barca don't want Rashford, even on a loan, then they would not be trying to come up with lowball offers. Though one could argue that all rumors are wrong and Barca have already informed United they don't want him and media is just not aware of it.
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It's hard to know because with Rashford there is a media frenzy. I get your point, though. I think at this point they are letting Rashford know he's not a high priority for them. I just don't want to see United being bullied here. It's a situation where not all parties will end up happy I'd say!
 
We have to pay him 2 more years which is around 30m. This is huge money and in case we are not planning to use him on the pitch we should try to cut losses.
I have no problem with Barcelona As I never believed that they gonna pay the full price. At least they covered a year of his wages.
Like some of you said if he was for sale at 40m and around 150k wages there would be a bunch of clubs interested.
With the contractual situation we will not get more than 20-25m respectively pay him half of the wages for the next years so he can agree a realistic wage package with his new club.
 
I think Barca still wants Rashford, though not as one of their top signings. If anything they're doing what we're kind of doing with the CM situation (but flipped around a little).

They're getting people they want more/less sure of getting first (Gordon, Alvarez maybe), while they know the Rashford situation can wait (with the WC and not many/any clubs lined up for him) and buying extra time too (filling their squad up with Gordon - like we are with Ederson).

They'll probably come back after the WC and maybe even waiting till the end of the window. Rashford's just a squad player for them, and he's trained/played with them already so they know Rashford doesn't need extra time to acclimatise to the team, they've got insurance/probably other backup transfer targets if they don't get him ultimately, they can afford to wait. (Hoping we're doing the same kinda thing with the Anderson/Tchouameni/Baleba - by getting Ederson & Fernandez early).

Really scummy and inconvenient from our POV, but I'd say good business sense.

What I hope we'd be doing is:
- not lowering the price for Barca no matter what
- actively looking for other buyers, even at a lower price thanwhat we're offering to Barca
- actively working on our own transfer ins & outs regardless of Rashford's situation
- get him back training and in the squad if need be - but NO special accommodations for him (he tracks back and presses if he wants to play, otherwise he's a subbie for the last 10-15mins like he should be. He sulks, he's out!)

Frankly, it's what all well-run clubs should be doing, he's a 125-175k player (what he's worth), he is a "contender for the first 11" level player. We shouldn't fixate on his situation - he's not worth it, we should be bigger and better than that.
 
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