Marcus Rashford - Barcelona Watch

Pffft... That's nothing. Frank Lampard had 11 managers in 13 years with Chelsea.
People are different although I see your point. Obviously Marcus became unsettled by the instability at United in a way that somebody like Frank didn`t at Chelsea.
Some people can switch off distractions and problems better than others or can deal with them by becoming absorbed in something.
Frank was a great player and obviously had the mentality to leave off-pitch drama off-pitch and to roll with constant personnel changes. Other players find it hard.
Outside of professional sports it`s similar to people`s work. I`ve enjoyed most of my jobs and have found them a welcome focus away from other things.
When I was working in one of the countries I`ve lived and worked in, I had an horrendous 4 month period during which two of my uncles from both sides, one of my auntie`s from my mother`s side and my father all died.
I could only get to two of the funerals (my father`s was one of them) and when I returned to the country I was working in then, my employer said they had thought that maybe I would not come back. They also were surprised I just got back to business but work was a good way to forget all that.
On the other hand a friend of mine in a different country started to go awol at our workplace when his relationship with his wife started to break down. He was an incredibly reliable person until then both at a personal and professional level.
I had to deal with his customers when he didn`t turn up and our employer was surprisingly sympathetic for a culture that expects people to just separate their private and professional lives and get on with it. However, he was asked to resign because our company couldn`t accommodate somebody who would call in absent when his customers were already waiting.
That was some time ago and he recovered but for him work under those personal circumstances was something to dread. We`re all different.
 
By age 25, no academy graduate in Manchester United's 147-year history had been involved in more goals than Marcus Rashford.

Not Ryan Giggs. Not Bobby Charlton. Not Paul Scholes. Not George Best by the same age.

Yet Manchester United fans somehow got distracted by his brilliance because of a few clipped up images that managed to fly viral, clipped up my a mainstream media who were out to get him after he undermined teh Tory givernment.

Marcus Rashford had 6 managers in 8 years as a Manchester United player.

The blame is on the club. Not the mangificent talent we allowed media moguls turn into a joke.

If you believed over the past 2/3 years that Rashford wasn't a good enough player and you blame him rather than the football board (who hired and fired 6 managers in 8 years) then you likely fell for Brexit. or Trump. You allowed the media's lies to fuel your misinfomration.

Rashford is an incredible talent.

We'd be lucky to promote any player from our acadmy who lives up to how talented he was over the next 30-years.

In your lifetime, we will not promote another attacking talent form our academy who will have 124 goal involvements by the age of 25. Absolutely 100% that will not happen.

Let me repeat this sentence for absolute clarity:

Marcus Rashford had 6 managers in 8 years as a Manchester United player.

Read it again.

Scandalous.
This. Glad to still see a few United Fans who havent completely lost it when it comes to Rashford.
 
This. Glad to still see a few United Fans who havent completely lost it when it comes to Rashford.
Oh, come on, not this again? There are a plethora of players who've had 7-8 managerial changes throughout their career without this reflecting on their consistency. Let's take Marcelo as an example, joined Real at 19. Marcelo was part of Real Madrid from 2007 to 2022. He's had 9 different managers.
 
Oh, come on, not this again? There are a plethora of players who've had 7-8 managerial changes throughout their career without this reflecting on their consistency. Let's take Marcelo as an example, joined Real at 19. Marcelo was part of Real Madrid from 2007 to 2022. He's had 9 different managers.
I was going to make the same point re Ronaldo. 7 managers in 9 years in Madrid. Outrageous! How could he possibly do well!
 
I was going to make the same point re Ronaldo. 7 managers in 9 years in Madrid. Outrageous! How could he possibly do well!
And that's not all, how many managers has Ibrahimovic had, in how many formations and clubs? Did that ever stop him to deliver? Eto'o? Benzema? Lewandowski?

Or maybe someone more comparable? M'bappe? Both him and Rashford have been introduced to the first team around the same year. M'bappe has had 8 different managers across 3 different clubs, 2 countries. Has that ever stopped him from performing?

Let's be real - Rashford is a good player, had a lot of potential, but his attitude was never on the needed level. I don't hate him, I've just accepted he will never be the player I wished him to be, and there's no external excuse, it's always been on him.
 
Some of ya really struggle to let go... Pop in from time to time and pretend you're not that bothered - when you clearly are. It's interesting but not surprising to see a few of the same posters frequenting.

Anyway, I gotta be honest.... Did not expect Rashford to find his feet so fast. Does make you wonder....
 
Some of ya really struggle to let go... Pop in from time to time and pretend you're not that bothered - when you clearly are. It's interesting but not surprising to see a few of the same posters frequenting.

Anyway, I gotta be honest.... Did not expect Rashford to find his feet so fast. Does make you wonder....

It makes me wonder why so many United fans take any opportunity to criticise their own club.

He's done ok. Scored in one game so far. How this becomes a negative about United I don't know.
 
Some of ya really struggle to let go... Pop in from time to time and pretend you're not that bothered - when you clearly are. It's interesting but not surprising to see a few of the same posters frequenting.

Anyway, I gotta be honest.... Did not expect Rashford to find his feet so fast. Does make you wonder....

Wonder what? What if he had pulled his finger out here? I guess.
 
I have no axe to grind with Rashford but the whole he had 6 managers in 8 years is a silly excuse. Loads of players have had similar or worse and still performed.

With that said, both the club and Rashford needed to part. This is the best for both parties as it was blindingly obvious that the motivation was gone from Rashford. His performances at Barcelona mean very little in the grand scheme of things.
 
Rashford tapped out at United. He was continually walking around the pitch putting zero effort into our games. I don't care how he performs at Barcelona, his last few years at United were diabolical.

This unfortunately. I don't think I've seen a player gone from being adored and admired to the extent that Rashford was, to being pilloried by the United fans the way he is now. In many ways reminiscent of Heinze and Tevez (although obviously they weren't adored to the very same extent and Rashford didn't do anything 'awful') in terms of the U-turns than United fans did on them and justifiably so. It's fairly simple and straightforward with United fans, we love players who are industrious and play their hearts out on the pitches. And that was part of the appeal with Rashford. Can't think of too many United players that I respected deeply for their off the pitch activities, with Rashford being one of them for his activism to end child poverty. It was stunning and absolutely amazing for a person that young to had made such an impact and he was a United academy graduate to boot too. I still respect him for that obviously however, I'm completely apathetic towards him as a player now after his last few years at United. And whilst the situation at United wasn't great for more than a decade, at the end of the day he only has himself to blame for his lack of application and indifference, and for the change in attitude of United fans towards him.
 
Some of ya really struggle to let go... Pop in from time to time and pretend you're not that bothered - when you clearly are. It's interesting but not surprising to see a few of the same posters frequenting.

Anyway, I gotta be honest.... Did not expect Rashford to find his feet so fast. Does make you wonder....
No offence or anything but you're the other side of the same coin regarding the fans you keep mentioning. You pop in here to talk about them constantly and act like Rashford was a model pro. You seem more a fan of him than the actual club. Which is okay, slightly strange but okay, but it doesn't really give you the moral high ground you keep aiming for. Comes off a bit like the leave Britney alone meme.
 
I see we've gone full circle back to the 'well if you're not part of the mob, you're a player fan and not a real fan' :lol:

Throwback to the Mourinho days
 
Mob Vs Top Reds. Who wins.

Well nobody really but you definitely have to be one or the other. No middle ground here.
 
Some of ya really struggle to let go... Pop in from time to time and pretend you're not that bothered - when you clearly are. It's interesting but not surprising to see a few of the same posters frequenting.

Anyway, I gotta be honest.... Did not expect Rashford to find his feet so fast. Does make you wonder....
You should be proud your son's doing so well, Mrs Rashford!
 
How many managers he has had isn't really the point. The reality is Utd has been a toxic shitshow of a club for years, an awful place for players to perform and develop. We keep blaming it on the players for creating this atmosphere, when often blaming the players has been a easy solution for diverting focus from the shameful lack of effective senior leadership throughout the structure of the club.
 
Greenwood - Beats shit out of girlfriend and leaves her face a bloody mess with images in the public domain. Fans on here: It was role play and they're in a loving relationship now, he should never have been sold.

Rashford - Late for training. Fans on here: Glad he's not our problem.
"Fans on here". You are here as well, aren't you, so I take it you are not a fan then.
 
Wonder what? What if he had pulled his finger out here? I guess.
A bit of that too

No offence or anything but you're the other side of the same coin regarding the fans you keep mentioning. You pop in here to talk about them constantly and act like Rashford was a model pro. You seem more a fan of him than the actual club. Which is okay, slightly strange but okay, but it doesn't really give you the moral high ground you keep aiming for. Comes off a bit like the leave Britney alone meme.
Show me where I've done that? I think the fact you assume I have is projection but what do I now?
 
How many managers he has had isn't really the point. The reality is Utd has been a toxic shitshow of a club for years, an awful place for players to perform and develop. We keep blaming it on the players for creating this atmosphere, when often blaming the players has been a easy solution for diverting focus from the shameful lack of effective senior leadership throughout the structure of the club.
Great post, summarises the fundamental problem at the club.
 
Some of ya really struggle to let go... Pop in from time to time and pretend you're not that bothered - when you clearly are. It's interesting but not surprising to see a few of the same posters frequenting.

Anyway, I gotta be honest.... Did not expect Rashford to find his feet so fast. Does make you wonder....

I hope you will be not shocked in the summer when Barca come with a 10 million offer and wonder why their offer is so low.
 
Oh, come on, not this again? There are a plethora of players who've had 7-8 managerial changes throughout their career without this reflecting on their consistency. Let's take Marcelo as an example, joined Real at 19. Marcelo was part of Real Madrid from 2007 to 2022. He's had 9 different managers.
Yeah but Rashford was made scapegoat by a large part of the fanbase. And look where he is playing now, the so called championship level player, and where we are. Same goes for McTominay. But yeah, will probably get the usual rhetorics that both have never been "good enough for United". Whatever that means/is.

Will be inteteresting to see how long it takes people to realise that this fanbase is part of the problem.
 
Yeah but Rashford was made scapegoat by a large part of the fanbase. And look where he is playing now, the so called championship level player, and where we are. Same goes for McTominay. But yeah, will probably get the usual rhetorics that both have never been "good enough for United". Whatever that means/is.

Will be inteteresting to see how long it takes people to realise that this fanbase is part of the problem.

The fanbase are indeed a problem in that the majority agree with most of the club's poor decision making, including giving Rashford the contract of an elite player instead of selling him when it was already evident he is not of that calibre.

Regardless of his technical limitations, I am not sure how any fan with standards can accept a player walking around the pitch.
 
Regardless of his technical limitations, I am not sure how any fan with standards can accept a player walking around the pitch.
Bollocks..... when he was performing, which goes for all players, the vast majority of the fans gave no fks (and were fine with his attack bias). The issue is that he stopped performing to a sufficient level....

Everything else is periphery...
 
Seems that tardy business last week is in the past, Flick put him back in the starting XI and he sets up their equalizer in the first half
 
He has already at least two assists from corners. Did he take corners for us?
 
Seems that tardy business last week is in the past, Flick put him back in the starting XI and he sets up their equalizer in the first half

BBC mentioned he’s been the best player on the pitch.

3 goals and four assists in his last six games for club and country.

I wish he was still wearing red.
 
It's important to remember that he is playing for his career right now. He has been given a second chance that very few footballers get in the same way - the opportunity to light up your career again playing for Barcelona, so of course he is going to give it his all. Just because he performs well this season does not mean he would do equally well for us, or that he is going to perform great for Barcelona next season assuming they buy him, which I don't think they will. Besides, he hasn't been that great. He hasn't scored a single goal in the league yet, and two or three of his assists have been straight up bizarre with three defenders just refusing to clear the ball from the box.
 
Really loving the bitterness in here everytime he delivers. Long may it continue
 
He has already at least two assists from corners. Did he take corners for us?
Occasionally, he's generally just crossing way more. His pass to Lewa who missed was really really good, like a weighed through ball I've not really seen him play before. Motivated Rashford unlocked in 2025
 
BBC mentioned he’s been the best player on the pitch.
It's almost impressive to still manage a 6.4 with an assist.

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Lost possession 22 times (Most in the team. Next up was Bardghji with 12)
1/6 crosses
2/7 dribbles
2/9 duels won
2/6 shots on target
0 interceptions
0 tackles
0 aerial duels won

Standard Rashford game.
 
It's almost impressive to still manage a 6.4 with an assist.

vieJfP6.jpeg


Lost possession 22 times (Most in the team. Next up was Bardghji with 12)
1/6 crosses
2/7 dribbles
2/9 duels won
2/6 shots on target
0 interceptions
0 tackles
0 aerial duels won

Standard Rashford game.

The English media bias towards Rashford will never end. He can do no wrong.
 
It's almost impressive to still manage a 6.4 with an assist.

vieJfP6.jpeg


Lost possession 22 times (Most in the team. Next up was Bardghji with 12)
1/6 crosses
2/7 dribbles
2/9 duels won
2/6 shots on target
0 interceptions
0 tackles
0 aerial duels won

Standard Rashford game.
Yeah, watched the first half, he was mixed, some good some bad.
But if they’re happy with him then at least they might buy him. The fee is fairly low.
 
It's almost impressive to still manage a 6.4 with an assist.

vieJfP6.jpeg


Lost possession 22 times (Most in the team. Next up was Bardghji with 12)
1/6 crosses
2/7 dribbles
2/9 duels won
2/6 shots on target
0 interceptions
0 tackles
0 aerial duels won

Standard Rashford game.
All the websites I’ve looked at have him down as one of Barca’s best players:

BarcaUniversal: 8.5
Sports Illustrated: 7.9
Flash score: 7.7
SempreBarcelona: 7.5
Football Espana: 7.5
Yahoo: 7.5
Whoscored: 7.3

Some of the reviews:

“Rashford was the most active of Barcelona’s starting forward trio as he constantly looked to create a threat on the left wing. He was sharp with his dribbles and looked confident on the wing, even in take-ons.”

“Continues to get better and better in a Barcelona shirt. Set up Kounde’s equaliser, and always looked like the most dangerous player to La Real.”

“Used his pace to stretch the defense early, forcing a great save from Remiro. His wide play created opportunities, though he couldn’t convert his chances.”

Now has 6 GA in his first 8 matches for Barcelona, at a rate of one per 76 minutes. It’s a quite brilliant start to a career in a new country. Will be interesting to see if he can maintain it.
 
Yeah, watched the first half, he was mixed, some good some bad.
But if they’re happy with him then at least they might buy him. The fee is fairly low.
Fee is low, wages however. But it’s nice that it seems he’s finally putting in some effort. Shame it didn’t work out here but we move on he moves on everyone should be happy.