Barcelona is pretty damn cool.
A hugely better London.
But the Trafford Centre, the palace of Manchester. Can't be talking that down. Memories of Ciao Baby, The Orangerie, and Power League.
Marcus Rashford - Barcelona Watch
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A hugely better London.
But the Trafford Centre, the palace of Manchester. Can't be talking that down. Memories of Ciao Baby, The Orangerie, and Power League.
Honestly nice to see him cleaned up and looking up for it. I saw the side by side of his Villa photo and burst out laughing.
Change of scenery best for all. Think he'll wind up a starting a fair number games and hit ten goals easy
Change of scenery best for all. Think he'll wind up a starting a fair number games and hit ten goals easy
Irrespective of how you feel about Rashford we should all be hoping he smashes it at Barca because that's the only way are getting him off United's book permanently .
Amazing that we got him off the books. Hopefully he defies expectations and he makes it permanent.
I actually think he'll do really well at Barcelona if he can stay fit.
Many of Rashford's problems are of his own making. But he's also just never had a manager who really platforms attackers or played in an otherwise highly effective offensive side. He's never been on a team that scored more than 73 league goals, Barcelona under Flick scored 102 last year.
My suspicion is that the difference between him and Raphinha will turn out to be fairly small and Barca will end up picking up the buy option next summer (maybe United might have to chip in a bit to pay him off as he'd probably be reducing his wage to move there permanently).
Many of Rashford's problems are of his own making. But he's also just never had a manager who really platforms attackers or played in an otherwise highly effective offensive side. He's never been on a team that scored more than 73 league goals, Barcelona under Flick scored 102 last year.
My suspicion is that the difference between him and Raphinha will turn out to be fairly small and Barca will end up picking up the buy option next summer (maybe United might have to chip in a bit to pay him off as he'd probably be reducing his wage to move there permanently).
I don't know if you know this but sings point to that dropping being partly because the club wanted to sell him. Nothing he could have done would have got him back in the team pretty much. Ornstein confirmed that Man Utd were trying to push Rashford out before Amorim had even dropped him. That's why Rashford gave up and didn't fight it.
Expecting double figures for goals and assists. In the teens.
Wishing him all the best!
Hopefully he has a fine season so we can sell him for a good fee.
Marcus Rashford: "The club is in a period of change and has been for a while."
Apparently on the back his 30-goal season, during contract negotiations he was name-checked Kane and Rice as possible signings that summer, to reassure him about the measure of our ambition, and to get him to stay.
We signed Hojlund, Mason Mount, Amrobat, and Onana that summer.
Yeah, I'm not surprised he checked out.
Apparently on the back his 30-goal season, during contract negotiations he was name-checked Kane and Rice as possible signings that summer, to reassure him about the measure of our ambition, and to get him to stay.
We signed Hojlund, Mason Mount, Amrobat, and Onana that summer.
Yeah, I'm not surprised he checked out.
He will work is socks off for that permanent contract. And then it will be back to sleepwalking from next year. Everyone and his dog knows that he is a chancer who plays only when the money is at stake. Hope never to see him in a United red ever again. An important part of the cultural reset for us.
His attitude stank for the last manager Which is where the fans had already enough of him. Eth defended him to the hilt and still got stabbed in the back. Amorim simply hsdto do all the dirty work
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Would have preferred to get a permanent sale, as I can't see Barcelona actually paying for him next year. So we will likely just be in the same position next year, in trying to off load him. But hopefully he does well for them.
Ha! So he has one good season and suddenly can demand his English colleagues join him or he doesn't bother trying?
This is meant to be a boy that grew up loving United and not signing by the way. He should be an example to the people we sign not the guy who gives up. Just imagine Gerrard gave up because his move to Chelsea didnt happen or that Scott Parker and Wayne Rooney were not signed. Ridiculous.
This.
Even if they don't want him at the end of it, someone else will want him if he does a good job there.
Username checks out.
Whatever he does, I'm sure it'll provide some people an intermittent distraction for their rage between smashing up alleged asylum seeker hotels.
Surely you'd want him to do well in La Liga though?
A successful loan means Barca probably make it permanent.
The reason he’s disliked more than Ronny (who I agree gave us more legitimate reasons to dislike him) is just the standard way fans tend to dislike players who don’t play well. Lindelof is more or less detested and all he’s done is been an occasionally poor defender. Then you throw in the visible lack of effort, with multiple managers calling him out for a lack of discipline off the pitch, and that all gets compounded. And here we are.
It is a pity but I can’t bring myself to wish him well. For me he’s come to represent a certain type of modern footballer who seems to enjoy the status of being an elite player without keeping up the effort and discipline needed to earn that status. One of a few we’ve been lumbered with during a grim few years for the club. That might be unfair. I’ve never met the guy so I can only speculate about his mentality but that’s the conclusion I’ve come to. So I’m just glad this move means we might soon be rid of him. Fingers crossed.
Mods, there are two Rashford performance threads?
Wonder if people would like him more if he didn’t have multiple Rolls Royce’s and wore diamond chains. Not sure if anyone’s seen the talksport clip where the presenter says Rashford doesn’t deserve those cars and they’re reserved for people like ‘Elton John’ and proper superstars. Doesn’t take a genius to work out what he’s suggesting, feel like it’s the mentality of a lot of people in here.
I posit “Beans at Barca” for the first thread title edit.
Surely you can see why ostentatious trappings of wealth from a footballer who fans think isn’t working hard enough to deserve his enormous salary is going to piss people off? So yeah, if he drove a “normal”’car and didn’t go out and about in watches and jewellery that cost as much as most of our houses then people would feel warmer towards him. Isn’t that obvious?
So hard working = running around like a headless chicken? This is only a United thing, it’s why players like Ugarte and De Ligt are praised so much by our fanbase because they just run around kicking people going to ground.
He didn’t run the most on the pitch but for him to reach this level and be able to hang in the Premier League/make a move to Barcelona worked super hard combined with his 0.1% talent.
Utd fans have been desperate for him to be bad/to abuse him. I won’t forget that Brighton game at Old Trafford he got so much stick online, it was one of the first few games of the season after his unbelievable 22/23 year. And he wasn’t even bad! Or even that Liverpool home game last season I was at, he got so much stick from the crowd, he created 2 clear cut chances for Zirkzee! It is what it is though, at United you just have to run around and kick people to be liked.
Hard working = hard working. We all know it when we see it. And when we don’t. And it’s not just a United thing, believe me. It’s a football thing. At every level. Players who leave it all out there are appreciated more than those who don’t.
Shouldn't be so hard to do for 375k p/w innit
It's because the fans and the club indirectly through their incompetence expect him to be a super hero all the time. I've mentioned here that over the years we usually went into big games with Rashford as basically our main hope of getting something. The recruitment has been so bad that i don't think we signed a single winger on his level or better while he was here, so we'd usually go into every season expecting Rashford to hard carry the team again. You obviously mentioned what happened when he failed to deliver, endless insults and criticism when in some of those games he was the only one who looked liked he had the level to play in Man Utd's forward line. He's just an easy target.
Nevermind that the team is shite, tactics are crap and he plays with teammates who can barely complete a dribble or pass a ball properly, if he isn't at his absolute peak he gets all the stick anyway. I also find the lazy Rashford narrative a bit dishonest. Yes there's something to be said about his defensiveness contributions in recent years, but how are we labeling a player lazy when he was one of most willing runners?
There were games were through just watching him I'd estimate he made about 15 high intensity sprints behind the opposition backline, sometimes carrying the ball from deep because we didn't have a single midfielder who could carry or pass properly bar Bruno. In fact he used to be our main counter attacking threat. Well he isn't here anymore and he'll do everything not to come back. Goodluck to him.
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Pretending that fans dislike Rashford for anything other than his performances on the pitch is silly. Fans are fickle, if you perform almost nothing else matters.
I wager fans would defend everything; his cars, his PR responses, his wages and jewlery if he performed.
I still have mixed emotions about all this. I pine for that rashford we saw a few seasons ago ripping up defences. But wish him well all the same.
Literally this. Couldn't give any less of a toss what happens out there, except being successful to net us a sale. Out of sight out of mind.
I think he'll do well. I don't put him on the same bracket as Sancho as far as commitment is concerned. I just don't think he was mentally strong enough to handle the pressure at United and weight of expectations, especially when most of the team was crap and he was supposed to be our best player. He's now going to a team that is in a good moment, and has tons of talent and creativity. I think he'll probably do very well there.
This, I was against that new contract of 375k a week, but most of this forum believed after that 30 goal season he deserved it. If he played like we know he can and wasn't up to alleged stupid stuff outside of the club no one would have batted an eye.
"....feels like home....."
Says it all about his attitude towards the club, in his hometown, that he professed to love.
States that the club has been in a period of change for the last 2 years, conveniently forgetting his integral part in the malaise on the pitch.
Others rolled their sleeves up to do their best, Bruno, Scott and Harry etc., while he literally gave up and did nothing to justify his outrageous new contract.
The very least he could have done was try his best for the club, the fans, his manager(s) and team mates but didn't even bother with that.
Sickening, really.
Says it all about his attitude towards the club, in his hometown, that he professed to love.
States that the club has been in a period of change for the last 2 years, conveniently forgetting his integral part in the malaise on the pitch.
Others rolled their sleeves up to do their best, Bruno, Scott and Harry etc., while he literally gave up and did nothing to justify his outrageous new contract.
The very least he could have done was try his best for the club, the fans, his manager(s) and team mates but didn't even bother with that.
Sickening, really.
Have no ill will towards him despite his performances pissing me off for the past few years. Wish him luck and hope he smashes it
Fans, tactics, recruitment, team, manager and clubs all let the great Rasford down.
Our fans really are something.
He said nothing wrong. He was asked a question and politely mentioned that he has nothing bad to say about the club and things in football, like in life, don't ways work the way you imagine.
But yeah, sickening....
But yeah, sickening....