Marcus Rashford - Barcelona Watch
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There were talks of United selling Rashford due to FFP around summer 2024. Ten Hag came out and said he was part of his plans.
https://www.tntsports.co.uk/footbal...orward-part-of-this-p_sto10064142/story.shtml
Man Utd open to selling Rashford 10/12/24
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...r-united-open-sell-marcus-rashford-lifestyle/
The new challenge interview was 16th/17th of December 24
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/dec/17/marcus-rashford-manchester-united-new-challenge
https://www.premierleague.com/en/news/4196956
Manchester United head coach Ruben Amorim has explained why he left Marcus Rashford and Alejandro Garnacho out of his squad for the Manchester derby, saying neither player is injured and it was a simple selection decision.
"I don't want to send a message it is simply an evaluation and they know it. The players are really, really smart. Everybody understands my decision and I have to choose. It is simple selection.
"There is a communication after the last training. They are alright. They had training this morning (Sunday) and I was there. They trained really well."
I mentioned the rumours about Garnacho and Mainoo being sold popping up around that time as a segue to my belief that the club wanted to get Rashford wages off the books due to financial constraints.
At no point did I present what I said matter of factly or the like - in fact - if you re-read the post you'll see I used the qualifiers such as; "the way I remember it", "to me it felt", "I think this happened around this time too". It isn't a big conspiracy
He played 25 games and scored 6 goals and 3 assists. Fair dues if you guys think that’s quality output.
That is true.
Well, it was four assists.
And he played 1426 minutes. Or under 16 full games.
10 goals or assists in 16 games is like - pretty decent I’d say. If you look at the full season he registered around 27 full games with 20 goals contributions.
Yeah it’s a farmers league and all that. We can’t really give players too much credit when they’re not scoring in the mighty Premier League!
Hopefully the option to buy will be similarly restored!
Fingers crossed, we need him off the books.
He's done this before. It's never been a question of if he's good enough (apart from for the weirdos on here who were still slating him when he was banging in 30 goals in one season). The question is what happens when his form drops off again and whether the attitude and work rate takes a nose dive with it, as it has done in the past
The league is easier than the PL , the team around him is better. I think even with less application he could make it in that team, if they buy him of course. Which currently appears dumb not to, but its Barca and their levers, so you never know.
The feck are you on about? How on earth did you just double his “goal contributions”?! (God I hate that phrase)
He had 20 GA last season for United and Villa combined, of which 10 were for United.
He’s finished at Utd and the only thing I can see now is Barca trying to wriggle out of the obligation price and try and drive it down - probably getting Rashford to insist on going etc.
However if his stats continue to be good then we just need to hold firm and try and sell elsewhere.
He is cooked at OT, will be interesting to see if he can keep it going at Barca after Xmas?
However if his stats continue to be good then we just need to hold firm and try and sell elsewhere.
He is cooked at OT, will be interesting to see if he can keep it going at Barca after Xmas?
The price is set at £25 million, which is a massive bargain if he keeps this form up.
If they piss about with the price, we'll just sell him for £40 million to someone else.
Hopefully Barca try to piss around with the price and we can sell him for a bit more to PSG or something
It's all about the wages
It’s brilliant he’s doing well there. If Barca can’t afford him, I’m sure there will be others on the back of this loan. As long as he never puts a United shirt on again, I care little for where he ends up.
As a fanbase we have a large section of fans who want players back who have shown their true colours when the club was struggling - Rashford epitomised that with his half arsed efforts. We should never forget this.
As a fanbase we have a large section of fans who want players back who have shown their true colours when the club was struggling - Rashford epitomised that with his half arsed efforts. We should never forget this.
Yea it is. As I said earlier in the thread it’s pretty pointless arguing about his ability and performances. The club already took the decision to get his salary off the books asap
However, if he keeps this up for the rest of the season, and if Barca decide to be silly about the price, I think we could get someone to bite at around £40 million without wages being too much of an issue.
He's not like Sancho who has no real desire to actually play.
That said, I think the most likely outcome is another loan.
If he doesn't take a big paycut, the only possible buyer will be the Saudis
I think he's open to some sort of paycut.
The wost outcome for us is him refusing anywhere but Barca and them just stringing us along with loans until his contract runs out in 2028.
I wonder if he will change his mind about that if he ends up scoring 25 and creating 15.
I think that came out when he was coming from quite a weak position.
This will happen
Goals and assists last year for United and Villa across all comps.
My definition of wanting him to do well clearly isn’t the same as yours, and that’s perfectly fine. Just don’t lump me into the group that’s desperate for him to succeed purely so we can tick the “off our books” box.
See, I actually want him to do well because he’s one of our own - an academy lad, a lifelong fan, and, whether anyone cares to admit it or not, someone who’s contributed massively to the club.
Fingers crossed he continues to do well when he is off the books.
100%. As soon as Ineos appointed Amorim, it clearly came with a brief that they wanted rid of Antony, Rashford and Casemiro.
Casemiro wouldn’t leave and proved himself far too valuable though.
We're all aware how you feel.
Brilliant. Like music to my ears.
Goals against Southampton, Ipswich, and Everton (2) for us in the league, Brighton and City for Villa.
2 goals against Preston in the FA Cup and 2 against Barnsley in the EFL Cup.
That’s a grand total of 2 goals all season against top 10 sides.
Bearing in mind he doesn’t offer anything else to the team either - no tracking back, no hustle. You allow that when you have an elite attacker in your squad, it’s criminal when you’re producing nothing against quality sides. Chuck in plenty of dispossessions and a lazy attitude and yeah, enjoy Barcelona.
In the past year he's got goals/assists against Man City/Real Madrid/PSG/Newcastle/Chelsea.
Of last years top ten - he played for one of the teams - didn't play against Bournemouth at all and has scored/assisted against six of the other eight teams. Two of them multiple goals/assists.
So yeah, very odd subject to beat him with.
I’m not talking about his time at Barca. I’m glad he’s doing well there.
As for your second point, he didn’t score or assist against Liverpool, Arsenal, Newcastle, Villa (when playing for us), or Forest in the league last year, all of who were top 10 clubs.
He’s just not been that good in the PL for multiple seasons now. It’s okay, he can assist for Barca now in an easier league.
The vast majority of United fans wanted rid of Antony and Rashford too. Along with Sancho, the absolute waste of space. So it’s not as though it was some sort of wild, unfair agenda from Ineos to get rid of grossly overpaid, perennially underperforming players. It made perfect sense at the time. It still makes sense now. Casemiro is next on the list to be replaced. We can’t keep paying the premium wages to players who don’t deserve that much money. And you can be damn sure not one of them will earn the same salary at any other club.
Nah, he’s still shit.
Give him a contract Barcelona and you will see the truth. Please
Give him a contract Barcelona and you will see the truth. Please
It is very weird how some people try and disect how and where his goal contributions were accrued to diminish his quality. Really odd, and not something I’ve seen with any other players on the forum, lately.
He obviously needed a move and wasn’t putting in the effort at United. Since he’s left he’s looked a very good player, scoring and assisting regularly in the league and in Europe, and contributing against good sides. Seems to be rated by top managers like Emery, Flick, and Tuchel. Seems daft to try and downplay his ability when he’s clearly delivering on the big stage, and is rated highly by top level football operators. His attitude at United was poor, though.
He obviously needed a move and wasn’t putting in the effort at United. Since he’s left he’s looked a very good player, scoring and assisting regularly in the league and in Europe, and contributing against good sides. Seems to be rated by top managers like Emery, Flick, and Tuchel. Seems daft to try and downplay his ability when he’s clearly delivering on the big stage, and is rated highly by top level football operators. His attitude at United was poor, though.
Sense is not for the sensitive
The amount of unabashed pedantry on display on every page would make even Sheldon Cooper blush
Odd indeed but not unexpected when strong feelings are involved
It’s just odd. Why can’t we just say ‘he didn’t do well at United and didn’t apply himself well towards the end, but is clearly a good player that’s now performing well’?The amount of unabashed pedantry on display on every page would make even Sheldon Cooper blush
It wasn’t some wildly unfair agenda no, they needed to get some big earners off the payroll that they didn’t feel were worthy of it and it appeared clear at the time (and now), that Amorim was informed of this immediately.
I’m guessing that’s why he’s gotten so much time, because he had to follow that remit in order to get a chance to build something this past Summer.
The league is indeed easier, and he has some excellent players around him, but I don't think the "less application" will fly with a coach like Felix, who is will known to be a hardcore and taskmaster, but I guess the "less application" might be the case at times since Barca tend to dominate games from beginning to end most of the time which means Rashford would not have to press and run that hard.
If he doesn't press like a madman he doesn't play on that team