Marcus Rashford (Out) | Ornstein: United want to keep, will only consider substantial bids

I always think he plays and looks a lot better when Shaw is behind him, they have a good understanding and your left side is suddenly far more dangerous.

Yep for all Rashys own issues people seem to overlook the difference that having a quality left footed full back behind him makes.
 
I think all 3 of Rashford, Sancho & Greenwood will be at United next season.

They are near almost impossible to move on due to wages and maybe even things like self mentality.

I also have a gut feeling that Sir Jim might be a bit lenient towards British players at United.

I can for example see him wanting the best British players at the club and may be already targeting players like Wharton, Gray, Guehi or Brantwaithe.
0% that Greenwood stays for a list of reasons

The others might be hard to find buyers who can make it financially viable while paying their wages
 
I would be disappointed if he were to join a rival but I do think he may need to revive his career outside of Manchester.

Fans have mentioned that we've moved on equally or better players than Rashford In the past and, though that may be true, we also need to take into account that we had 1. A excellent team/squad 2. A more competent transfer team and, fundamentally, 3. We had one of the greatest managers of all time.
 
Haven't seen anything credible about it. I'll believe it if Arteta or Marcus speak openly about it, not tweets from click bait vultures.
For PL suitors, special offer of £120m. For everybody else, £80m will do.
 
He won't leave. Simply because he's not ambitious enough.

But the fact is he didn't score 30 goals last year for nothing. Get Shaw back at LB and a decent consistent line up and he'll get 20+ next year.
 
United aren't selling to Arsenal. That would be a huge sign of weakness.
 
Special offer: Antony + Rashford. £100m for the pair. Grab it while you can.
 
Special offer: Antony + Rashford. £100m for the pair. Grab it while you can.

I'd take £50m easily.

Both had dreadful seasons. Both had two dreadful seasons out of the last 3!

Any money would go a long way for players who have been so bad, they're not getting minutes on the pitch or they're contributing nothing when they do play.

Get them both out!
 
With Havertz he was in a bad place at Chelsea. So Havertz came to Arsenal humbled ready to fall into line and do what the manager says. If Rashford were to come to Arsenal, he would come assuming he would be an automatic starter despite Trossard & Martinelli being options on the left. The bare minimum would be for Rashford to track ball all the time and help out his left back. To press from the front all the time. Simply put, maximum effort on and OFF the ball all the time.

For that reason, I dont think we are in for him. Rashford seems like the type of guy who thinks he is doing you a favour by playing for your club, and that working hard is beneath him. Plus there are his technical limitations in tight pockets, he only comes alive when he has space to run into. Other than that, he doesn't want to get involved. There is a good reason he was left out of the Euro's and Antony Gordon is on the plane.
 
With Havertz he was in a bad place at Chelsea. So Havertz came to Arsenal humbled ready to fall into line and do what the manager says. If Rashford were to come to Arsenal, he would come assuming he would be an automatic starter despite Trossard & Martinelli being options on the left. The bare minimum would be for Rashford to track ball all the time and help out his left back. To press from the front all the time. Simply put, maximum effort on and OFF the ball all the time.

For that reason, I dont think we are in for him. Rashford seems like the type of guy who thinks he is doing you a favour by playing for your club, and that working hard is beneath him. Plus there are his technical limitations in tight pockets, he only comes alive when he has space to run into. Other than that, he doesn't want to get involved. There is a good reason he was left out of the Euro's and Antony Gordon is on the plane.


Pretty much my view too. Some of the clips of this guy this season have been shocking. Ie jogging around while the opponents WALK past him unchallenged, making zero efforts off the ball which is what Arteta hates. You can even see Odegaard our most creative player is the one who's running around the most. Martinelli eg even if he's been absent all game attacking wise you'll still see him tracking back to our box to win the ball. Rashford would never do this and never has shown he can. Once he got his bumper contract signed he's not cared. At all. For me not interested personally.
 
I don't think the Arsenal rumours make a lot of sense. All of Rashford's best attributes wouldn't be utilised enough in the way we play, while as others have said his weaker aspects (lack of tracking back, workrate) would be highlighted. I guess if Arteta saw him primarily as a number nine? But that's simply not his best position. He'll probably stay at United if nothing else because of the lack of serious potential destinations this summer.
 
It's interesting seeing the oppo/Arsenal view on him. Not many cared about how well he was tracking back (and he was) while he was banging goals in.....
 
It's interesting seeing the oppo/Arsenal view on him. Not many cared about how well he was tracking back (and he was) while he was banging goals in.....

That's the issue though. If you're not doing your primary purpose, people will look at your overall contribution. Defenders seem to want to turn people's attention away from his lack of productivity and also chastise people from looking at other areas of his game.

To the point where - if it's an apparent witch-hunt to look at things such has his productivity or overall contribution - he's paid £350k a week and has held down a place in the first team for much of the season for having lovely eyes and nice legs.
 
He won't leave. Simply because he's not ambitious enough.

But the fact is he didn't score 30 goals last year for nothing. Get Shaw back at LB and a decent consistent line up and he'll get 20+ next year.

Not ambitious enough? He's at the biggest club in the country earning 250-300k a week.

DO you think he should be pushing for a move to Man City or Barcelona on 400k a week?
 
It's interesting seeing the oppo/Arsenal view on him. Not many cared about how well he was tracking back (and he was) while he was banging goals in.....

Some forwards are specifically told to save their energy for attacking and just hold positions when defending. Instead of busting a guy doing Rooney style closing down.

Everyone assumes Rashy just doesn't fancy doing it all game. As if Salah and the likes always do it too.
It's masked when your team are winning.
 
Not ambitious enough? He's at the biggest club in the country earning 250-300k a week.

DO you think he should be pushing for a move to Man City or Barcelona on 400k a week?

He's hardly been desperate to kick on and prove he's value for that contract though. Archetypal player who gets huge contract, huge reputation and all the trappings and celebrity then seems to...stop. Many prefer not to see that due to his background and upbringing within the club. So we invent injuries, relationship issues, even diagnosis mental health problems - because we find it so hard to accept 'big time Charlie can't be arsed after big contract ' conclusion.

I don't think he's a player who thinks he has much else to prove.
 
Some forwards are specifically told to save their energy for attacking and just hold positions when defending. Instead of busting a guy doing Rooney style closing down.

Everyone assumes Rashy just doesn't fancy doing it all game. As if Salah and the likes always do it too.
It's masked when your team are winning.

because those kinds of forwards produce going forward, so much that you don’t want them wasting energy tracking back. As it is, Rashford neither produces going forward nor tracks back. No wonder he gets criticism.
 
Some forwards are specifically told to save their energy for attacking and just hold positions when defending. Instead of busting a guy doing Rooney style closing down.

Everyone assumes Rashy just doesn't fancy doing it all game. As if Salah and the likes always do it too.
It's masked when your team are winning.
He plays with Holjund. Do we think the instruction to Rashford is to conserve energy, and to Holjund to waste as much as he likes?

Do you think that's more likely than him just being a bit half-arsed?
 
He won't leave. Simply because he's not ambitious enough.

But the fact is he didn't score 30 goals last year for nothing. Get Shaw back at LB and a decent consistent line up and he'll get 20+ next year.
:rolleyes:
 
He won't leave. Simply because he's not ambitious enough.

But the fact is he didn't score 30 goals last year for nothing. Get Shaw back at LB and a decent consistent line up and he'll get 20+ next year.
Shaw can't stop him running into 3 opposition players and losing the ball 90%of the time.
 
Shaw can't stop him running into 3 opposition players and losing the ball 90%of the time.

But Shaw would at least be up there with him providing an option. Dalot and Wan Bissaka have their strengths but not high up on the left.
 
I love how people think the shaw magically improves Rashford.
I get the arguments for overlapping etc but shaw doesn’t improve Rashfords innate laziness