I honestly can’t see us getting more than £30m maximum for him, and £30m would be great considering those astronomic wages the Glazers put him on, combined with his general market value in terms of goals and assists.
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21m is still profit selling our own academy graduate but I wouldn’t sell him for 21m to English club, it needs to be much higher.
The numbers doesnt matter, nor does our valuations. You can ask for 50 but if no one bites then fubar
If there's several bids the clubs will pick the highest overall.
He's a detrimental to whichever teams he plays for so sending him to rivals is actually sabotaging them with his antics. He's not exactly prime Rooney
If there's no higher bidder than probably 21M is his market value
After Rashford scored vs Ipswich and Everton, I thought his new role under Amorim would be no 9 and I thought he looked a better no 9 than Hojlund at the moment. The goal vs Ipswich and second goal vs Everton were typical of striker’s goals. I feel that Rashford has lost his incredible pace to play wide and I think if Arteta wants him at arsenal, it means that he will play as no 9. I think he would be first choice striker at arsenal.
21m is still profit so I wouldn’t mind selling him if that’s his value to clubs outside PL. But I wouldn’t take 21m from arsenal, it needs to be higher.
Other than Saudi, no one will pay that kind of money.
He is deluded yes, but some fans aren't that far (not here, i think).
What if suddenly some french or italian mid table team tried for Cristiano and announced they would go for the title with him and his goals?
No one would believe them, and it would be more than ridiculous.
But he is as far as his prime as Marcus.
There will be dozens of enquires, but not one single offer.
Arsenal would have to assume his $350k per week wages, so the £21m figure would be close to accurate if one factors in that United would be relieved of its 2nd highest salaried player (and would probably lose the highest as well if we manage to move Casemiro). I can't see Rashford being a difference maker for Arsenal any more than Welbeck was.
No actually this shit is nuanced and complicated. It wouldn't be a miracle..it's actually a slap in the face..So You think are Arsenal are trying to save us huh hahaha. Maybe Arsenal realize that Rashford is actually a talented player and if he wasn't playing in a team that's barely above the relegation zone he may actually produce.Arsenal sold Balogun for £25m and he was earning £35k a week at the time.
This shit isn't complicated. Getting £20m and rid of Rashford's wages this summer would be a fecking miracle for the club.
The club have actually devalued by Rashford by pulling him out of the team and announcing to the world that we don't want him. Rashford isn't a 20M talent. If the offer is actually true it's obvious that Arsenal are trying to take advantage and some of you are actually like 'Yea Yea take the offer'. It would be absolutely absurd to sell him for that especially to another PL Club.
City just spent £35M on a no-name CB but sure let's sell our player who has scored 140 goals for less because you don't like him. Hopefully none of you are in charge of a business.
The smart decision is to send him on loan to Milan, Barca, etc..one of the better clubs in Spain or Italy. He can go play good in a team that is actually good, which will inevitably raise his value. There are also just less clubs in the winter who are in the market. In the summer there will just be more clubs in the market.
Seems like some of our fans hate Rashford so much that they are actually willing to be taken advantage of.
He's not that good. Wake up and smell the coffee
His bullshit jogging around and pretending to press is all over Youtube.
Between United and your valuation vs all the teams in Europe that arent making serious offer even when 21M is the benchmark you gotta ask yourself.
Who's being taken advantage off? If Rashford is that good and all he need is a change of environment, teams would have lined up and snap him up.
Maybe they're not that dumb and the joke is on us for thinking he's the real deal
Do any of these rumors have an ounce of truth to them? There is no way Arsenal or Barcelona want this guy. If they take his wages plus give us 20+ mil than yes please.But they cant be that desperate.
Barca makes more sense than Arsenal because they are run by numpties. Pull the lever Kronk!
Would happily sell him to Arsenal. They’re preferable to win the league over City / Liverpool and I don’t think he’s good enough for is to regret the sale anyway.
Not really comparable, in a lot of cases the buying club would also take into account of the player's wage as well when determining the value of a player
For example, if that CB is on £100k/w, approximately £5m a year, his total outlay would be £60m (35+5*5) assuming he has a 5 year contract.
Whilst for Rashford, at £350k/w, approximately £18m a year, his total outlay if his transfer cost £20m would be £110m(20+5*18). Almost doubled.
Just saying X player is sold for Y amount, and if our player is supposedly better than X player, then he should be sold for more than Y amount is an extremely simplistic and more often than not, wrong, way to look at a player's value.
He'll still be here at the end of the window and will be integrated back into the team.
It falls like Rashford has too much power in this situation. He will get to choose his club and we’ll have to still pay him £175k a week.
It feels like we should let him go but refuse to pay a penny. These loans where we pay for him to play elsewhere are ridiculous.
I think clubs should rebalance this, if he wants out he should take a wage cut or stay and fight with everything he has for his place. He can keep his wages in Saudi Arabia if he wants.
It feels like we should let him go but refuse to pay a penny. These loans where we pay for him to play elsewhere are ridiculous.
I think clubs should rebalance this, if he wants out he should take a wage cut or stay and fight with everything he has for his place. He can keep his wages in Saudi Arabia if he wants.
Yeah, Chelsea being the key word there. His work rate was horrible for us. Sancho fecking couldn't beat players from tinpot teams in the Europa!
So much of a players form depends on confidence too. Sancho is flying right now because of that, and I'm sure Rashford will be better than him.
I still don't want him here though. Can't see him turning it around, too much baggage. It's best for him and United to part ways now.
We are not getting anyone, so I would not be against it. I will only feel ok with him leaving if we get someone better.
Arsenal are playing Havertz up front - looking at it from Rashfords eyes, I don't think that competition scares him
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He offers nothing in build up as a striker. Jesus, Havertz and even Trossard in that role for Arsenal are better.
I’ll be absolutely astounded if he arrives at Arsenal.
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Havertz has already scored 7 and assisted 2 so a contribution every 164 mins.
By no means a perfect striker but he offers a physicality, build up presence and flexibility in position which I think is being undervalued here.
Yeah, £60m is never happening. Think we'd do very well getting £35-40m.
I think Arsenal could happen.
Martinelli hasn’t really kicked on in recent years so you could argue they could do with a LW.
They also gave Havertz a contract of around £300k a week so they can afford a decent contract for Rashford.
Martinelli hasn’t really kicked on in recent years so you could argue they could do with a LW.
They also gave Havertz a contract of around £300k a week so they can afford a decent contract for Rashford.
20 to 25m I’d say based on his wages. Still can’t see anyone buying him permanently, he’s too big a risk.
I think they are saying "if we had paid him realistic wages, we'd value him at 60m"
So you buy him for 60m and we can horse trade on us paying some of the wages and we effectively get 35m.
That's the fee I can see it landing on too, unless he has a Lingard/West Ham type loan.
Think I'd rather take a lower fee and not pay any wages for him to play for another club.
You’re right
He isn’t a 20M player
He also isn’t a 350k p/w player
And if 20M enables a transfer with Rashford and 350k off the books, so be it.
At what point do you consider his bad attitude to outweigh his ability (which I don't rate highly anyway).
He has now had issues with 4-managers. It does nothing for Amorim to come into the club and have issues with him inside a month. As one of the highest paid players he doesn't come close to delivering.
I don't like to say he is out of form, as in my opinion he has spent more time in his career "out of form" than he has spent in it.
While I had a lot of love and wanted him to do well as one of our own. I've reached the point of feeling he needs to be out the club, however he plays while out on loan.
The sort of shite that goes for 30m these days, he’s got to be worth that even on those wages. But in this form he’s a massive risk, which is why I’d be surprised if a permanent move happened without a loan first.
I am not in any way saying we should absolutely keep him, but a manager with very thin options in the attack we should be careful, Marcus Rashford still the highest goal scorer in the team for the last 8 years and it is a dangerous game we are shifting him without any good substitutes.
That philanthropist guy went for 22m to Ipswich
What are Barca said to be offering for him? Just loan til season end or anything attached to that?
The last time they saw him he was tearing them a new one in their own back yard. Just think of that, and not the 2 years that came after it, alright Barca?
The thing is, we don't know what impact his attitude is having in the dressing room. We all know that one bad apple can bring an entire team down and that might be the case with him, in which case performances on the pitch are largely irrelevant now.
Told you all we could count on Barcelona to save us on this one. “But who’s going to pay his wages!?” Cried Red Caf. Never underestimate mental clubs doing mental things. They’ve been buying players for the last three years with money that doesn’t exist, they aren’t going to stop anytime soon.
Which club(s) do you think will pay a high transfer fee AND match his salary?
It won't be a smart decision to loan him to Barcelona, he'll get found out, benched and if anything that will devalue him even more. The smart decision is to loan him to a club in Italy, France or Germany.