It won't be a smart decision to loan him to Barcelona, he'll get found out, benched and if anything that will devalue him even more. The smart decision is to loan him to a club in Italy, France or Germany.
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Barca, Monaco and AC Milan all showing an interest in Rashford.
Must really hurt his ego that teams better than us want to sign him
Must really hurt his ego that teams better than us want to sign him
Chelsea bid incoming
They see him as a cheap risk free punt, no commitment to buy. Why wouldn't they take that chance? Come back to me when they're prepared to pay a proper fee for him.Barca, Monaco and AC Milan all showing an interest in Rashford.
Must really hurt his ego that teams better than us want to sign him
Cannot imagine that Barcelona will sign him. Surely they have some young superstar that could be unleashed. What can Rashford brings for them? He better check if he is asked to be a backup striker. He doesn't like to play as a CF.
Barca are skint
They only just managed to register Dani Olmo yesterday. They are at capacity. They’d have to get some out.
Sancho still worked harder than Rashford at united.
Our style didn't suit him, we were very direct playing on "run fast straight to goal" style and he's never been that player. He's played better at both Chelsea and Dortmund than for us.
End of season is only 4 and a bit months away. Paying half his wages is what 3/4 mill? Don't see why all clubs don't gamble on that. Even the sht version if Rashford will bag 5-10 plus goals against sht teams till the end if the season. If good Rashford shows up thier laughing.
Rashford has created 15 goal-scoring chances in the league this season (the club's 4th most). 4 of them were clear-cut (joint 2nd most at the club). The numbers do not support the suggestion that he offers nothing in the build-up. Havertz, having played more minutes, has 14 goal-scoring chances, 2 of them clear-cut.
We're living in a dream world if we think Rashford is going to attract offers in that region.
£25-30m is the best we can hope for. Maybe a few million more if he starts playing football again whilst out on loan.
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As a striker he’s done that? Or as a winger?
I’m not someone who thinks nothing of Rashford as a wide forward, but the discussion was based around him operating as Arsenal’s centre forward and I strongly believe as do most in world football that he’s not a CF.
As a striker he cannot hold the ball up to help link play and build up. As a LW he can find space and pass perfectly well but we can’t equate what he does on the wing to being a good build up player when he’s the central focal point.
If we’re changing the discussion to be about how good he could be for Arsenal as a wide forward then I’m happy to engage on that topic separately.
Seems a bit fanciful given they've only just managed to register Olmo due to their financial situation. Rashford isn't an upgrade on Raphinha or Yamal either.
Properly a mixed bag of positions this season, I think Rashford has played more games on the right and down the middle this season than on the left, so the bulk of the numbers come from those two roles.
I don’t hate any United player (there is always an exception) so I hope the Barca rumours are true.
It would give Marcus the route out of United that kept his ego intact. 6 months in Barcelona would be a great experience for him.
It would give Marcus the route out of United that kept his ego intact. 6 months in Barcelona would be a great experience for him.
I could see him finally knuckling down at a club like Barca where he’s back to being just another player in the grand scheme of things and a lot of easy games. He buckled under the pressure of being the main guy here, there’s no other explanation for it. I’d also imagine from his side he probably sees Utd as lacking ambition and putting all their eggs in his basket which is silly as he’s one of the highest paid players in the world and we spent more than anyone to build a team around him really but there you go.
He could also flop and then sulk his way through the loan and party it up in Barcelona and be back here in the summer worth even less.
Our only chance of getting something reasonable is if he has a good loan. Doubt he starts for Barca.
I must have missed us building a team around him. If we were going to do that then the bare minimum would have been a competent attacking left back and a CF with hold up play and vision. The last season we had a semblance of competence in those two positions was 22/23. How did Rashford do in that season?
Same here but I think transfers of this nature are way too complicated nowadays to get done in such a short notice window without Saudi money involved.
What part of the club have devalued him are you not understanding? He isn't only worth £21M. Arsenal aren't saving us..they are clearly taking advantage of the situation. The same Arsenal who bought Havertz for £65M and gave him £280K. Completely pointless to sell Rashford right now. Loan him and let him raise his value. Stop panicking. Simple.
Nope. Clearly, you are letting your personal hatred for Rashford cloud your judgment.
We bought Mount for £60M with only 1 year left on his contract and he is on £250K per week. Arsenal bought Havertz for £65M and he is on £280k per week. So Stop talking to me about salaries. We have just been awful at selling and it has to stop. The same fans who want to sell Rashford for 20M will be the same fans complaining when we have no money transfers. No Arsenal aren't performing a miracle..they are taking advantage of the situation.
Again, there is no point in selling him in the winter transfer window. Rashford value is at an all time low. Loan him for 6 months, allow him to raise his value and then sell him in the summer when his value is higher and there are just more clubs in the market. We should not be panic selling. It's just bad business.
If we benchmark our standards to the last 8 years we'll go nowhere.
Rashford's talent doesn't warrant the trouble he causes for the club, as simple as that in my opinion.
Barcelona are hilarious. Trying to buy a new BMW when you have 5 k in the bank account
Well Monaco and AC Milan are not exactly great teams. It wouldn't take much for us to get better than them.Barca, Monaco and AC Milan all showing an interest in Rashford.
Must really hurt his ego that teams better than us want to sign him
Also these are just rumours, there are no good sources here.
Wouldn't surprise me if alot of the Saudi stuff was all picked out of think air as well.
Will be interesting to hear how they spin it if he's still here at the end of the month.
Yes totally agree. You can see him going abroad on a loan only and Utd stumping up 175-200k a week in supplementing his wages. Then he will be back in July when no one has offered 40 mill, never mind 60
BMW with Yugo engine under the hood
It's the 11th, he is so good I can't believe he hasn't been snapped up regardless of his salary, he is a superstar.
Joking aside, I couldn't care less if Circus Rashford ended up at Shitty, just get him out let him be some other clubs problem.
Joking aside, I couldn't care less if Circus Rashford ended up at Shitty, just get him out let him be some other clubs problem.
Then dont sell. Please feel free to sell to the clubs bidding 50M. If there's any the Club would have gladly picked them over Arsenal
In todays joke valuations he probably is a 60m asset even with his downturn in form, with his experience, potential upside and age.
As we all know however, wage demands impact the upfront value massively. on 250-300k a week potential buyers will only stump maybe half of that to fit in their structures, which means we essentially need to write of the other half which will take the cost down to 30ish.
As we all know however, wage demands impact the upfront value massively. on 250-300k a week potential buyers will only stump maybe half of that to fit in their structures, which means we essentially need to write of the other half which will take the cost down to 30ish.
Good article on how Barca can sign him and how they’re managing their transfers
Berrada in the background taking notesGood article on how Barca can sign him and how they’re managing their transfers
This should tell us everything about Marcus and his ability. Also, swap for Frenkie?!!
Barcelona would unironically do that deal. He’s free in the summer and they’ve wanted his wages off the books since forever.
You don't know what to believe with with half the b.s. about these clubs being interested in the lazy fecker.
For my 2 cents worth. He isn't going anywhere. He knows he'd get crucified by the supporters of other clubs if he put a shift shift in like he has been.
I'm afraid the Rashford circus is not going any where.
For my 2 cents worth. He isn't going anywhere. He knows he'd get crucified by the supporters of other clubs if he put a shift shift in like he has been.
I'm afraid the Rashford circus is not going any where.
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He’s 90% going in my opinion. People are being a bit weird expecting clubs to come in with their best offer in the first few days of the window.
The club has given off enough desperate vibes that clubs will start from a low point and see how good a deal they can get. If they can get a loan with an option to buy and United cover some of his wages, they’ll try to do that. Low risk, low commitment.
We need to be firm on either an outright transfer, or a loan covering all his wages, or a loan where we partially cover his wages but there is an obligation to buy.
This is a big transfer so it will drag on for most of the window, but I’m almost certain he will go. The longer negotiations go on, the more flexible Rashford’s camp gets too. He doesn’t want to be out of the squad for the rest of the season.
I’m inclined to agree with you. If there are offers, they will be so low it might not be worth United entertaining it. I can’t see any club offering the numbers quoted in the back of his performance levels the last few years.
I hope you are totally wrong. Probably you hope the same.
The difference this time is that the manager froze him out. Would he want to stay without game time and earn his wages until he runs down his contract? I say that because knowing marcus, he will not react by improving his training intensity or lifestyle. I doubt he’d want to stay like this especially that he knows that even the fans are now beyond him.
I hope a good offer comes (for the club and him) and I wish him well elsewhere
It makes you look infantile to say I'm wrong just because you say so..when in fact I have given you an example of Arsenal paying £65 Million for a player who is on a similar wage to Rashford..but according to you we should give them a £45 Million discount because you say so..NOPE, that's not how business works. And Rashford will be aware that he will have to take a hit on his salary if he wants a move to his dream club if his form doesn't improve. If he wants his salary then he will have to make it up in bonuses.
Send him on loan and let him get his form..and then sell him. We all know that Rashford is capable of scoring 10-15 goals in a few months in the right conditions.
Arsenal set the market when they paid £65 Million for Havertz..they don't get to offer us £20 Million..prices go up over time not down..Stop letting your personal hatred cloud your judgment.
Just because arsenal made a mistake previously doesn't mean they want to do it again.
Demand is what determines his price, not us.
He did his purple patch playing counter attacking football, which no good team plays, and when the team was built around him being out focal point. He won't get that at a top club.
It is mind boggling how the club has let Rashford get away with sub standard performance the past 2 years. I am glad Amorim has frozen him out. We cut our losses bid adieu to this guy.