Martín Zubimendi | Having medical at Arsenal (51m fee)

NicolaSacco said:
FC? What position is that?
But yeah, if you can get Zubi with Jorginho or Partey rotating in, freeing Rice and Odegaard, I think you’d be pretty set in the middle.
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In an ideal world clubs that compete in Europe needs 2 players in each position.

GK - Raya, a backup goalie
RB - White, Timber
CB - Saliba, Gabriel, Kiwior, Tomiyasu
LB - Calafiori, Lewis-Skelly
CM - Partey, Rice, Odegaard, Zubimendi, Merino, (Need backup for Odegaard, may be Havertz here)
LW - Martinelli, Trossard, Jesus
RW - Saka, Nwaneri
Striker - Havertz, Jesus, another striker

So my guess is striker, DM, a backup goalie have higher priorities, then may be a free transfer or loan deal for a LW. It really depends on when Jesus will be available for selection.
 
ThierryHenry14 said:
In an ideal world clubs that compete in Europe needs 2 players in each position.

GK - Raya, a backup goalie
RB - White, Timber
CB - Saliba, Gabriel, Kiwior, Tomiyasu
LB - Calafiori, Lewis-Skelly
CM - Partey, Rice, Odegaard, Zubimendi, Merino, (Need backup for Odegaard, may be Havertz here)
LW - Martinelli, Trossard, Jesus
RW - Saka, Nwaneri
Striker - Havertz, Jesus, another striker

So my guess is striker, DM, a backup goalie have higher priorities, then may be a free transfer or loan deal for a LW. It really depends on when Jesus will be available for selection.
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It’s a very very strong team when I see it written down. I’d be really interested to see how someone like Gyokeres gets on, but it’s a huge ask, expecting him to carry his Primera Liga form over to the Prem.
 
ThierryHenry14 said:
In an ideal world clubs that compete in Europe needs 2 players in each position.

GK - Raya, a backup goalie
RB - White, Timber
CB - Saliba, Gabriel, Kiwior, Tomiyasu
LB - Calafiori, Lewis-Skelly
CM - Partey, Rice, Odegaard, Zubimendi, Merino, (Need backup for Odegaard, may be Havertz here)
LW - Martinelli, Trossard, Jesus
RW - Saka, Nwaneri
Striker - Havertz, Jesus, another striker

So my guess is striker, DM, a backup goalie have higher priorities, then may be a free transfer or loan deal for a LW. It really depends on when Jesus will be available for selection.
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We're absolute fools if Jesus name is written anywhere in next season's plans. His body is shot, he's 28 with 2 years left in his contract, nobody is paying a fee for a striker with no knees. He will come back to play 10 games a season and leave on a free.
We need to get the striker and focus on a good scoring LW. Get anybody on loan for the GK spot to be this year's Neto.
 
awop said:
We're absolute fools if Jesus name is written anywhere in next season's plans. His body is shot, he's 28 with 2 years left in his contract, nobody is paying a fee for a striker with no knees. He will come back to play 10 games a season and leave on a free.
We need to get the striker and focus on a good scoring LW. Get anybody on loan for the GK spot to be this year's Neto.
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Jesus is already the third option for the LW and striker position.
 
ThierryHenry14 said:
In an ideal world clubs that compete in Europe needs 2 players in each position.

GK - Raya, a backup goalie
RB - White, Timber
CB - Saliba, Gabriel, Kiwior, Tomiyasu
LB - Calafiori, Lewis-Skelly
CM - Partey, Rice, Odegaard, Zubimendi, Merino, (Need backup for Odegaard, may be Havertz here)
LW - Martinelli, Trossard, Jesus
RW - Saka, Nwaneri
Striker - Havertz, Jesus, another striker

So my guess is striker, DM, a backup goalie have higher priorities, then may be a free transfer or loan deal for a LW. It really depends on when Jesus will be available for selection.
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Looks like a really strong squad. Three good signings and maybe a young CB with potential (because CBs tend to be where injuries hit the hardest) and you're there.
 
Awaiting them signing another fancy attacking mid and playing them up front. Then being surprised when they only score 10 goals in the season.
 
With Zubimendi, the rise of Max Dowman and possible signings of Sesko/Gyokeres, Arsenal will be right up there next season. They're a great example of how to rebuild a club after a crap few years.
 
Sandikan said:
Awaiting them signing another fancy attacking mid and playing them up front. Then being surprised when they only score 10 goals in the season.
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69 goals scored without a striker and the main attacking player for months. One more than Newcastle and their 150M Best Striker in the World. 91 goals the year before, 88 in 2023. Linked with the 2 biggest targets of the summer, negotiations underway for Sesko.
It's like you have an itch to talk sh*t for no reason. Weird. :confused:
 
Sandikan said:
Awaiting them signing another fancy attacking mid and playing them up front. Then being surprised when they only score 10 goals in the season.
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awop said:
69 goals scored without a striker and the main attacking player for months. One more than Newcastle and their 150M Best Striker in the World. 91 goals the year before, 88 in 2023. Linked with the 2 biggest targets of the summer, negotiations underway for Sesko.
It's like you have an itch to talk sh*t for no reason. Weird. :confused:
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He's talking about the player scoring 10 not the team as a whole.

You are linked with the right players though, let's see if your board can actually make it happen.
 
Dirty Schwein said:
He's talking about the player scoring 10 not the team as a whole.

You are linked with the right players though, let's see if your board can actually make it happen.
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These Arsenal fans are sensitive aren't they.
I think they know we'll win a title before they do.:angel:
 
Sandikan said:
These Arsenal fans are sensitive aren't they.
I think they know we'll win a title before they do.:angel:
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Very sensitive to shite spouting i'll admit. Bruno and friends might get you there, we'll see :angel:
 
Sandikan said:
Awaiting them signing another fancy attacking mid and playing them up front. Then being surprised when they only score 10 goals in the season.
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Huh? They were 3rd in the league in goals scored, almost a goal a game more than us.

People overrate the importance of strikers. Liverpool was easily the highest scoring team in the league and they don't have a good striker. Arsenal, Chelsea, and Brighton were at the top without anyone notable there either. An attacking mid can be as useful to scoring as most any forward.
 
bb8 said:
Huh? They were 3rd in the league in goals scored, almost a goal a game more than us.

People overrate the importance of strikers. Liverpool was easily the highest scoring team in the league and they don't have a good striker. Arsenal, Chelsea, and Brighton were at the top without anyone notable there either. An attacking mid can be as useful to scoring as most any forward.
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You want the whole team contributing, Arsenal needs someone who can outscore any of their current options though. They need a primary goal scorer, Saka, Odegaard are good but they could do with a Salah, Haaland or Isak level scorer.
Especially in key games, they're not as fluid as a Pep side.
 
awop said:
Very sensitive to shite spouting i'll admit. Bruno and friends might get you there, we'll see :angel:
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Oh don't get me wrong, I don't think United will win a title any time in the foreseeable future.
It's that I rate Arsenal as even less likely.
 
bb8 said:
Huh? They were 3rd in the league in goals scored, almost a goal a game more than us.

People overrate the importance of strikers. Liverpool was easily the highest scoring team in the league and they don't have a good striker. Arsenal, Chelsea, and Brighton were at the top without anyone notable there either. An attacking mid can be as useful to scoring as most any forward.
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They have a guy called Salah who in effect is their star striker.

Do you think Arsenal would have a better shot at the title with say Isak over Havertz? If not, what do you think they're missing?
 
Sandikan said:
Oh don't get me wrong, I don't think United will win a title any time in the foreseeable future.
It's that I rate Arsenal as even less likely.
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Sandikan said:
They have a guy called Salah who in effect is their star striker.

Do you think Arsenal would have a better shot at the title with say Isak over Havertz? If not, what do you think they're missing?
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Yes, obviously. But they don't necessarily need a striker (Salah, btw, isn't one). They need a scorer. That could come from a number of positions, like either wing or attacking mid.

Cunha would be a great example of a non-striker who could help. Or Mbuemo. A better striker would be nice, but Liverpool would also be better with Isak than Nunes/Jota. You can still score a lot of goals with a mediocre striker.
 
ThierryHenry14 said:
In an ideal world clubs that compete in Europe needs 2 players in each position.

GK - Raya, a backup goalie
RB - White, Timber
CB - Saliba, Gabriel, Kiwior, Tomiyasu
LB - Calafiori, Lewis-Skelly
CM - Partey, Rice, Odegaard, Zubimendi, Merino, (Need backup for Odegaard, may be Havertz here)
LW - Martinelli, Trossard, Jesus
RW - Saka, Nwaneri
Striker - Havertz, Jesus, another striker

So my guess is striker, DM, a backup goalie have higher priorities, then may be a free transfer or loan deal for a LW. It really depends on when Jesus will be available for selection.
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ST and LW is where you're weak.

Martinelli, Trossard, Jesus and Havertz isn't really a group you can hang your hat on to achieve anything. This is where everything Arsenal are trying to do falls apart.

You have a very good GK, an excellent defence, a very good midfield and you're completely sorted at RW with Saka and Nwaneri.

Zubimendi is a good addition, but I'm not sure he moves the needle in any serious way. He just adds more solidity to an already good group and an extra body to cover for injuries.
 
WeePat said:
ST and LW is where you're weak.

Martinelli, Trossard, Jesus and Havertz isn't really a group you can hang your hat on to achieve anything. This is where everything Arsenal are trying to do falls apart.

You have a very good GK, an excellent defence, a very good midfield and you're completely sorted at RW with Saka and Nwaneri.

Zubimendi is a good addition, but I'm not sure he moves the needle in any serious way. He just adds more solidity to an already good group and an extra body to cover for injuries.
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You are talking about weakness of the current Arsenal team which I agree, and I just simply pointed out the holes in the current team need to be plugged.

I assume no one is really counting on Jesus given his injury and goal records and that's why there is a need for a new striker after the departure of Nketiah. Arsenal currently has Martinelli, Trossard and Jesus all under contract and can play on the left side. I don't know about Arsenal's finance and if they can afford more players on high salary for the Left wing. Last season Arsenal did bring in Sterling on loan. Zinchenko and players on loan like Tavares, Vieira, Lokonga, Nelson, Marquinhos are still on the book. I have zero idea about Arsenal's summer plan.
 
ThierryHenry14 said:
You are talking about weakness of the current Arsenal team which I agree, and I just simply pointed out the holes in the current team need to be plugged.

I assume no one is really counting on Jesus given his injury and goal records and that's why there is a need for a new striker after the departure of Nketiah. Arsenal currently has Martinelli, Trossard and Jesus all under contract and can play on the left side. I don't know about Arsenal's finance and if they can afford more players on high salary for the Left wing. Last season Arsenal did bring in Sterling on loan. Zinchenko and players on loan like Tavares, Vieira, Lokonga, Nelson, Marquinhos are still on the book. I have zero idea about Arsenal's summer plan.
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When you say you need a new striker ‘after the departure of Nketiah’ do you really believe the two things are linked like that? I feel like you’re absolutely crying out for a quality striker, completely regardless of what Nketiah does. Even if he signed a new contract then there would still be a gaping hole up front, one that he is not good enough to fill. I might have misunderstood you, but it seems to me you have world class (or very, very good) players in most positions and then there’s a huge drop-off when it comes to a first choice CF.
 
NicolaSacco said:
When you say you need a new striker ‘after the departure of Nketiah’ do you really believe the two things are linked like that? I feel like you’re absolutely crying out for a quality striker, completely regardless of what Nketiah does. Even if he signed a new contract then there would still be a gaping hole up front, one that he is not good enough to fill. I might have misunderstood you, but it seems to me you have world class (or very, very good) players in most positions and then there’s a huge drop-off when it comes to a first choice CF.
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I do given Arsenal wanted to sign Sesko but failed after Nketiah left the club last summer.
 
Seems he wants to go to Madrid and play for Xavi Alonso? Would be hilarious if he didn't go to Arsenal.

Arteta would be happy to have some funds open up for more defenders.
 
beck7 said:
Seems he wants to go to Madrid and play for Xavi Alonso? Would be hilarious if he didn't go to Arsenal.

Arteta would be happy to have some funds open up for more defenders.
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Apparently he was put off by the contractual bonuses for getting knocked out in the quarters of every cup competition and finishing second.
 
beck7 said:
Seems he wants to go to Madrid and play for Xavi Alonso? Would be hilarious if he didn't go to Arsenal.

Arteta would be happy to have some funds open up for more defenders.
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Not being a fan of any English team that wants him, I really do like the way this guy moves
 
Maybe he's the game raiser type but I've been throughly impressed whenever I've had the chance to watch him.
 
Red the Bear said:
Maybe he's the game raiser type but I've throughly impressed whenever I've had the chance to watch him.
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I think he's a bit of a second-rate Jorginho. The slower pace of international football suits him down to the ground, and I'd guess he'd probably take a while to adapt to the PL if he ever does.
 
V.O. said:
I think he's a bit of a second-rate Jorginho. The slower pace of international football suits him down to the ground, and I'd guess he'd probably take a while to adapt to the PL if he ever does.
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No worry. At this stage it is just a rumor. No one will be surprised anymore if he choose to stay, or move to Real Madrid.
 
V.O. said:
I think he's a bit of a second-rate Jorginho. The slower pace of international football suits him down to the ground, and I'd guess he'd probably take a while to adapt to the PL if he ever does.
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Again I can only go off the limited exposure which I get from time to time so by no means a comprehensive evaluation but he seems more than that, his ball carrying ability in particular seems superior to whatever the Italian was capable of for example.

We'll find out when he comes to England I suppose.
 

David Ornstein’s One to Watch​

There has been plenty of noise around Martin Zubimendi’s future — however the Spain midfielder’s transfer to Arsenal is regarded by the north London club as being done and signed.
Real Sociedad have expressed a preference for the deal to be ratified in July for accounting purposes, and Zubimendi is expected to link up with Arsenal for the start of pre-season.
Arsenal will pay a total of around €65million (£55m) for Martin Zubimendi, more than his release clause — which is in the region of €60m (£51m) — after agreeing with Real Sociedad to pay for his transfer in instalments. Coming to this agreement, after months of negotiation, enables Arsenal to avoid paying the release clause in one lump sum.
Our Real Madrid correspondent Mario Cortegana says sources in Madrid assert that the 15-time European champions like the player but did not pursue or actively work on recruiting him.
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Very nice player + a good signing. Zubi/Rice/Ode is a good midfield for sure.

I read today on the gunnerblog that Arteta wants Guehi to add to their CB list, i mean he's decent, but if he's 60mill + like last year why are Arsenal not locking down their attack which is their main weakness. He's got decent defensive back-ups.

In saying that, Zubi, Rodrygo, Guehi would be a decent summer of additions, even if they didn't sign Sesko.

It surprises me it's taken Arsenal this long to get a LW/St given they aren't short of transfer spend year in year out.

If the above 3 or 4 come in, Arteta has to win big next year or he's a bigger numpty than he sounds in some of his interviews.
 
isitreal91 said:
Very nice player + a good signing. Zubi/Rice/Ode is a good midfield for sure.

I read today on the gunnerblog that Arteta wants Guehi to add to their CB list, i mean he's decent, but if he's 60mill + like last year why are Arsenal not locking down their attack which is their main weakness. He's got decent defensive back-ups.

In saying that, Zubi, Rodrygo, Guehi would be a decent summer of additions, even if they didn't sign Sesko.

It surprises me it's taken Arsenal this long to get a LW/St given they aren't short of transfer spend year in year out.

If the above 3 or 4 come in, Arteta has to win big next year or he's a bigger numpty than he sounds in some of his interviews.
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It makes no sense unless one of the existing CB is leaving this summer. Besides Saliba, Gabriel, Kiwior, and Tomiyasu, Calafiori can also play as CB.
For now as per rumors, Arsenal is linked with Kepa, Zubimendi and Sesko for the back up goalie, DM, and CF position. The future of Zinchenko and on loan players need to be sorted as well.
 
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