Film Martin Scorsese - Marvel movies are 'not cinema'

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I don't like Marvel movies, and I've enjoyed 90% of Scorcese's work. So on that metric alone I'm going to agree with him :angel:
Feel like quite a lot of people will follow this metric tbf.
 

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Maybe each time he went it had a different ending that Dr Strange saw would happen.
 

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Hurr durr back in my days. Marvel movies are riding a wave now that they've pretty much started themselves, it was all good long term planning, targeting the age group that they knew had read comics and would love to see movie adaptation and now they're reaping the rewards. Weren't most of his movies about gangsters? So ultimately he was doing the same thing but with a different genre. If Marvel movies are a theme park, then so was his Wolf of the Wall Street.

feck off Scorsese you dummy, off you go to the celebrity deathpool thread.
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Can we be sure he actually did it? Like, couldn't he have just bought the tickets then fecked off just to get the Guinness kudos? Unless an adjudicator was there on each occasion, in which case wouldn't that person be entitled to share the record?
 

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Proving his point really. Anyone thinks Marvel films are good has no idea what films are supposed to be about.

Between Superhero nonsense fast and furious tripe and fecking cgi monsters fighting each other i pity anyone pays to watch that garbage. Just a waste of life
 

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Proving his point really. Anyone thinks Marvel films are good has no idea what films are supposed to be about.

Between Superhero nonsense fast and furious tripe and fecking cgi monsters fighting each other i pity anyone pays to watch that garbage. Just a waste of life
I like them. I also like lots other films. Some of them are silent from the 1920s. Some are Italian from the 1940s, and some are even 1970s films made by Martin Scorsese. I have many types of films in my library and I watch them based on my mood at the given moment. No different to eating a burger and chips every now and then rather than insisting upon haute cuisine every meal.
 

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Who has pity over people for liking this shit, anyone who cares that much are worse.

Be interesting to hear what Scorsese thinks now, because of COVID cinemas need Marvel movies more then ever to stay in business. I know quality wise it won't change for him but his other point was taking up screens and so on. At this point without these films (not just Marvel, DC, Fast and others) isn't a cinema industry. I know people say that's always been the case, which partly true but this is different.
 

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Proving his point really. Anyone thinks Marvel films are good has no idea what films are supposed to be about.

Between Superhero nonsense fast and furious tripe and fecking cgi monsters fighting each other i pity anyone pays to watch that garbage. Just a waste of life
Film snobs and music snobs are the worst :lol:
 

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Who has pity over people for liking this shit, anyone who cares that much are worse.

Be interesting to hear what Scorsese thinks now, because of COVID cinemas need Marvel movies more then ever to stay in business. I know quality wise it won't change for him but his other point was taking up screens and so on. At this point without these films (not just Marvel, DC, Fast and others) isn't a cinema industry. I know people say that's always been the case, which partly true but this is different.

That's like saying Boxing needs Jake Paul which clearly is not the case. Marvel is the Jake Paul of cinema. Even the actors in them know they are garbage
 

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I like them. I also like lots other films. Some of them are silent from the 1920s. Some are Italian from the 1940s, and some are even 1970s films made by Martin Scorsese. I have many types of films in my library and I watch them based on my mood at the given moment. No different to eating a burger and chips every now and then rather than insisting upon haute cuisine every meal.
This analogy has been used a few times in this thread. And it works. So long as you remember that burgers are fundamentally inferior cuisine. Easy to make, not very good for you and all a bit samey.

Even if they are a tasty guilty pleasure every once in a while.
 

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That's like saying Boxing needs Jake Paul which clearly is not the case. Marvel is the Jake Paul of cinema. Even the actors in them know they are garbage

Boxing isn't dead though or close to it. My local cinema on my street had to shut out for good recently, multiple chains have had to shut, Cineworld was so close to shutting down too. Cinema was dying before COVID (edit- I know people will say that's because of Marvel, I would disagree this issue started before those films opened), this has made it worse.
 
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Marvel movies fans sound like Amadeus with pochettino.
 

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This analogy has been used a few times in this thread. And it works. So long as you remember that burgers are fundamentally inferior cuisine. Easy to make, not very good for you and all a bit samey.

Even if they are a tasty guilty pleasure every once in a while.
Yeah, but what was insinuated is that someone who enjoys something that is inferior is wasting their life. If it's a choice someone has made that will make them fleetingly happy and offer a moment of hope and comfort, then that should be considered a good use of their time.

If I fancy a bit of escapism after a difficult day (or year, in many people's cases), then I'm going for some junk food and a superhero film, not snail porridge and Rashomon.
 

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Boxing isn't dead though or close to it. My local cinema on my street had to shut out for good recently, multiple chains have had to shut, Cineworld was so close to shutting down too. Cinema was dying before COVID (edit- I know people will say that's because of Marvel, I would disagree this issue started before those films opened), this has made it worse.
Does the Media Museum up there not show movies? It's all I know about Bradford tbh.
 

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Does the Media Museum up there not show movies? It's all I know about Bradford tbh.
That is taking me back Media Museum, the flying carpet (no one get that reference). Though last thing I saw was the final ep of Planet Earth in 06 in the iMax. I still think it shows educational things but the iMax is propped up by selling tickets for big movies. The rest gets government funding from what I remember.
 

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Proving his point really. Anyone thinks Marvel films are good has no idea what films are supposed to be about.

Between Superhero nonsense fast and furious tripe and fecking cgi monsters fighting each other i pity anyone pays to watch that garbage. Just a waste of life
Don't agree with this point at all. There is space for all sorts of films. Some people enjoy marvel films. I love Fast and Furious. There's a space in cinema for art house, blockbusters, Oscar bait, indie films, sports films etc.

If you don't like marvel films, just don't watch them. Simple.
 

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Proving his point really. Anyone thinks Marvel films are good has no idea what films are supposed to be about.

Between Superhero nonsense fast and furious tripe and fecking cgi monsters fighting each other i pity anyone pays to watch that garbage. Just a waste of life
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Do you not get sick of them?

I watched loads of them, enjoyed them but I thought Endgame was fine point to jump off. I tried Wandavision, same old guff. Totally had my fill of the MCU, they're all the same at this point. All the characters in that video, they've all been in a dozen+ movies at this point.
 

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Do you not get sick of them?

I watched loads of them, enjoyed them but I thought Endgame was fine point to jump off. I tried Wandavision, same old guff. Totally had my fill of the MCU, they're all the same at this point. All the characters in that video, they've all been in a dozen+ movies at this point.
Not even close to being true.
 

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Do you not get sick of them?

I watched loads of them, enjoyed them but I thought Endgame was fine point to jump off. I tried Wandavision, same old guff. Totally had my fill of the MCU, they're all the same at this point. All the characters in that video, they've all been in a dozen+ movies at this point.
Some people are massive comic fans and will watch these with delight. I know my best mate grew up on these comics so it's loving it.

Then there's a whole new generation of fans they'll get with these new movies. They turned the likes of Thor and Iron Man into heroes as popular as the big ones like Spiderman and Batman, and now they'll do the same with a new set of heroes.

I have no issues with films like these coming out, they have a market and they serve that market well.
 

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Marvel at least have (or had) a fair bit of variety in their franchise, in the previous "phase". Though I have no doubt with the never-ending conveyor belt of sequels coming up they will start going off a cliff in terms of originality and quality of writing.

All the other action film franchises are considerably worse. Every action film of the last 15 years basically boil down to Cruise/Keanu/Statham/Vin Diesel/The Rock playing exactly the same characters in carbon copy plots, with near identical set pieces, and with the same supporting casts on rotation.