Mary Earps | signs for PSG

Berbaclass said:
Don't think it's got anything to do with or is in any way exclusive women's football.
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Just a feeling, could be wrong.

The contracts in the women’s game are shorter and free transfers happen a lot more regularly. Feels like some people are blaming the players as if they are running their contracts down and aiming to leave for free. As that’s the narrative often when male players do it. But it’s pretty obvious there are many other things going on behind the scenes, unfortunately. And those things are ignored or not known to fans who don’t really follow the women’s team. That’s what I meant by that.
 
top1whoisman said:
Just a feeling, could be wrong.

The contracts in the women’s game are shorter and free transfers happen a lot more regularly. Feels like some people are blaming the players as if they are running their contracts down and aiming to leave for free. As that’s the narrative often when male players do it. But it’s pretty obvious there are many other things going on behind the scenes, unfortunately. And those things are ignored or not known to fans who don’t really follow the women’s team. That’s what I meant by that.
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I understand what you mean. I just think you get that sort of reaction, myself included when anyone who is important leaves I think.
 
Berbaclass said:
I understand what you mean. I just think you get that sort of reaction, myself included when anyone who is important leaves I think.
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Guess you’re right. Just feels like every member here who actually follows the women’s team knows it’s deeper than just the player wanting more money etc.
 
Berbaclass said:
I know. I'm not conflating.

I'm saying that she can hardly talk when she's compromising her morals to go and get a payday from the Qatari regime.
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This kind of sweeping moral judgement is completely ridiculous at the best of times - made even worse by reports that United actually offered her more to stay!
 
top1whoisman said:
Without much evidence, it feels like it’s mainly those who don’t really follow the women’s team and what happens around that. You know, supporters who more or less only watch and support the men’s team without being aware or caring about what really goes on when it comes to the women’s team.
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I do wonder what the venn diagram, of supporters who are shitting on said players and supporters excusing INEOS for their handling of the womens team so far, looks like.
 
Bad CL debut for her with PSG....they have lost 1-3 against Juventus in the first-leg.
 
I wish both Mary and Alessia the best. Particularily Mary, who has been a stalwart for United. I don’t think many who blame them for disloyalty are really aware of the conditions for women who try to make a living out of football, and who try to achive their absolute best in an changing and unpredictable environment of an undersubsidized but rapidly expanding world sport.
 
It all feels a bit of a come down from last season. Not a great start of the season for her or PSG. She's even lost her automatic starter job for England.

Also a bit of a comedown for PSG. This time last season they were beating United at the Parc de Princes to go through to the WCL group stage.
They got to the semifinals before losing to Lyon. This time they went out in front of a crowd of 800 at their mini stadium.
 
Folks, be kind, women football is losing momentum everywhere (apart of the US) and your lady had to find a job elsewhere after United downsize.
 
Berbaclass said:
Why is she walking away like Connor McGregor :lol:
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Joking aside, I do wonder what it's doing to her confidence.

After the highs with England at the Euros and becoming one of the most visible Lionesses, she's had a difficult few months.

Pre-United she had a year at Wolfsburg where she didn't establish herself in the first team. She's said herself that it took her time to rebuild her confidence after that and after a couple of errors cost her a place in the England team. She also said that United and the United fans helped her get her nerve back.

Tough job being a keeper.
 
jojojo said:
Joking aside, I do wonder what it's doing to her confidence.

After the highs with England at the Euros and becoming one of the most visible Lionesses, she's had a difficult few months.

Pre-United she had a year at Wolfsburg where she didn't establish herself in the first team. She's said herself that it took her time to rebuild her confidence after that and after a couple of errors cost her a place in the England team. She also said that United and the United fans helped her get her nerve back.

Tough job being a keeper.
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Agreed. She wasn't in the best of form last season either. It will be interesting to see if she can regain her form in unfamiliar circumstances in Paris. From our point of view we might've actually gotten stronger with her leaving, but that is of course too early to tell. Earps probably was a big personality in the dressing room, which could be a hard thing to replace. I am pretty optimistic about Tullis-Joyce on the pitch, though.
 
You knew she was a bit of a bellend when she went to PSG.

A little bit of neymar about her, thought she was hot shit.

Unreal at one point, then thought she was untouchable, never progressed, got lazy, went for the money.
 
Always though she was vulnerable to anything high under the crossbar. And thought she was a bit of a drama queen. Seems that might be true.
 
Whole thing reads really weirdly. She comes across as incredibly bitter and petulant, and you can tell that she's annoyed at how key Hampton was in the Euros win.

She desperately wanted to take some sort of moral high ground, and failed miserably, then because she couldn't point to a downturn in England's performance after she left, she's just left with a load of random mentions of "values", as if other people don't also have them:

It also completely contradicted my professional values
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The progress and development of younger players had become a huge feature of my professional value set in football. Equally, to reward certain behaviour went against those same fundamental values
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It was a choice that went against my core values. I couldn’t get my head around it because when my values were compromised
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“It doesn’t align with my morals and values to continue,” I said.
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Alex99 said:
Whole thing reads really weirdly. She comes across as incredibly bitter and petulant, and you can tell that she's annoyed at how key Hampton was in the Euros win.

She desperately wanted to take some sort of moral high ground, and failed miserably, then because she couldn't point to a downturn in England's performance after she left, she's just left with a load of random mentions of "values", as if other people don't also have them:
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All she's missing there is a "Needless to say, I had the last laugh."
 
Alex99 said:
Whole thing reads really weirdly. She comes across as incredibly bitter and petulant, and you can tell that she's annoyed at how key Hampton was in the Euros win.

She desperately wanted to take some sort of moral high ground, and failed miserably, then because she couldn't point to a downturn in England's performance after she left, she's just left with a load of random mentions of "values", as if other people don't also have them:
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Earps saying 'no don't bring Hampton back, you'll be rewarding bad behaviour', I think she tried to make it seem like she was making a moral stand but it seemed to me she was just concerned that she would lose her place because she knew how good Hampton was. Would Earps be this moralistic about 'rewarding bad behaviour' had it been a striker like Russo or Toone instead of a player directly competing for her own spot?

Hampton was in a new phase of career when Weigman wanted her back. Remember she had been dropped by England but also by Villa. Then she moved to Chelsea and became the starting GK for the best team in the country, and there had been no more reports of disruptive behaviour. On what grounds was Weigman going to continue to ignore her?

Earps knew what was coming. Hampton was going to take her spot. Reading the guardian extract, it appears to me that she tried to manipulate Weigman to keep Hampton out of the England set up for her own selfish agenda.
 
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WeePat said:
Earps saying 'no don't bring Hampton back, you'll be rewarding bad behaviour', I think she tried to make it seem like she was making a moral stand but it seemed to me she was just concerned that she would lose her place because she knew how good Hampton was. Would Earps be this moralistic about 'rewarding bad behaviour' had it been a striker like Russo or Toone instead of a player competing for her own spot?

Hampton was a new phase of career when Weigman wanted her back. Remember she had been dropped by England but also by Villa. Then she moved to Chelsea and became the starting GK for the best team in the country, and there had been no more reports of disruptive behaviour. On what grounds was Weigman going go continue to ignore her?

Earps knew what was coming. Hampton was going to take her spot. Reading the guardian extract, it appears to me that she tried to manipulate Weigman to keep Hampton out of the England set up for her own selfish agenda.
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It's just so bizarre. The whole thing hinges on a (seemingly unfounded) belief that Hannah Hampton didn't do a bit of growing up after getting dropped at age 20/21.

She literally uses the words "rewarding bad behaviour", as if Hampton was a 4-year-old being bought a toy if she stopped screaming in a shop.
 
What did hampton do?
I found the story intriguing and but by the end it seems like a false narrative.
 
Demon Barber said:
The Guardian is serialising her autobiography. Personally I think today's extract about her, Hampton and Wiegman shows a lack of class. She does not come out of this very well at all in my opinion.

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...ps-extract-biography-all-in-england-lionesses
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Her ego took a massive hit and she can't get over it.

If you're a no.1 and the coaches start making noises about bringing someone else in, then the writing is on the wall, she probably would have known it was coming, but is shifting the blame to them for a lack of honesty and trying to take some moral high ground. When in reality they were doing what was best for the team, football can be ruthless, she should grow up and move on.
 
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