Honestly sod off. What’s a Southend fan doing on a Utd forum slagging off one of our brightest young talents. Absolute WUM.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
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Point out where I slagged him off. I'll wait.
You made a ridiculous hyberbolic claim that Greenwood would end up a mid table player (clearly that’s slagging someone off). That’s based on absolutely nothing and certainly not performances this season where he’s been arguably our best and most consistent attacker. Yes he has some way to improve but acting like he’s an average talent is nonsense. But then you don’t support Utd so I’ll go back to my original statement, sod off and comment on your own players, because you clearly cant evaluate ours.
No it's not. What's more, you know that. Which is why you felt the need to write a hefty caveat when it wasn't required.
Wasn't a good performance, but none of our starting forwards played well. He is a striker being asked to play on the wing. I would really like to see him play upfront. If Sancho came in to play in the next game, I wouldn't be surprised.
Saw this video of a young van Persie around Greenwoods age. Their mannerism are uncanny.
Robin was as egotistical and selfish as Mason is in that age ? I don't know...
What?
Van Persie didn't start looking like a top player until 27 though. As a player he regularly made bad decisions but was clearly talented (among being severely injury prone).
Neither of Ronaldo nor Greenwood should be our number 9 next season. A decently aged competent striker is a must in the summer. Can't be relying on 38 year old players and "maybe he'll come good" options anymore.
Sorry...have to bite on this...what the actual fuk are you talking about?
I’ve seen a bit of a spark in Mason over the last few games. Whilst there are still issues around decision making, he def working harder and tracking back….
If he just continues to work as hard as he is right now, everything will come to him. His decision-making will improve the more experienced he gets.
Can’t help but think the best option would have been a loan to Brighton. They’re desperate for a striker and he would be developed in a well coached, functioning team by one of the top coaches in the country. As it stands he’s mediocre and not living up to his early promise. His attributes in the youth team where that he was completely 2 footed and he played with his head up. Right now he’s treading water, shouldn’t be a starter, but doesn’t have an obvious berth as he needs to be playing. Of course there’s no way we’d loan him to Brighton as we’d expect them to pay his wages.
in the last 2 games he stopped shooting every ball he receives and started doing the defensive work, and in a blink of an eye the team start to dominate games.
he was clearly the problem of the team and I hope he continues like this. even when he plays badly like today, its better than the selfish version of him.
other problem for him is that the other wingers - elanga, rashford and sancho are probably better than him in that position.
he was clearly the problem of the team and I hope he continues like this. even when he plays badly like today, its better than the selfish version of him.
other problem for him is that the other wingers - elanga, rashford and sancho are probably better than him in that position.
needs a bit more in the the locker than the cut inside to hit the low drive inside the near post - thats been sussed out now.
Agreed. I'd like to see that too.
He was a bit weak last season to play as a #9. But he's become much stronger and press resistant this season. In fact he was the only forward who didn't lose the ball a single time in the first half yesterday. And he lost it like twice during the whole match. It's very very difficult to nick the ball off him now.
He also had the most successful dribbles (4/5 attempts) in the last match, second best was Bruno and Elange (both 1/1). His passing has been pretty consistent and actually already at a very good level for a forward. Teams know he's very dangerous and would punish them if let alone that's why you often see him surrounding by 3 opponent players whenever he's near the ball.
His best period this season was when he's playing as our #9 in August. When he won our Player of the month and was nominated in the PL Player of the month but only lost to Antonio who scored like 4 goals in 3 matches that month.
Tbh I don't recall him being that selfish prior to this season. Maybe he's been trying too hard to score to have some claim on the #9.
I'll never understand obsession with this loan deals. It's not like we are talking about youth player or fringe player. He is first choice player, playing regularly. He was our best attacker in many games. He just needs some fine tuning which he will get with more experience.
I think it has been a mindset from the time of Ole of either shooting or not passing quickly enough. Our defence and midfield seems to get it right most of the time but not the forwards yet.
I am amused how people think loaning Greenwood this season was ever going to be an option. You don't loan players of his calibre when they have shown their ability for the first team for more than a year.
Having said that, he seems to be favouring his left more than his right now. A couple of chances last night where I feel he would have belted it with his right earlier but instead he is now choosing to cut inside first.
He keeps the ball best under pressure among all our forward players and his passing is excellent. Just needs to refocus a bit and he will start firing again.
I doubt you will be even on this Board to eat humble pie in 5 years when Greenwood will be a top player for us.
Greenwood of old probably shoot with his right first in the counter early in the match. Imo he's been told to not shoot with his instinct like previously but should work the ball to a better position first. That messes up his usual rythm but eventually he'll get it right imo. All players have this period when they're trying to change their playing habits.
Anyway he's too selfish he should have passed to Bruno who was in a much better position. Ralf needs to tell him to be less selfish and think about the team first. He really needs to decide better.
But I've absolutely no worry that Greenwood will be a top scorer for us one day. Very fast, strong, press resistant, good passer, two footed, excellent touch and hell of a finisher. He's already our best forward this season despite being only 20 yo but we've been using him wrong imo. Imagine him in a team like City or Liverpool he'll score shitload of goals I think.
That was definitely not worth paying attention for.
You're right, I will not be on this board to eat humble pie.
Yeah, answer for any problem is loaning out player.
I thought he improved loads in recent games, sure the goals have dried up but he is now doing so much more than before. I think Rangnick certainly rates him highly and the only reason he is not playing more centrally is due to his physicality. There were 3-4 times last night that he was back defending, cutting out passing lanes, making himself available for counter. His close control dribbling has also improved. Decision making is still bad but that is because he is now more involved than when playing under Ole, so these issues got highlighted more. I have high hopes for him.
fecking hellBloke on a football forum demanding attention
Better we play him as a No-9 or dont play him at all, He could excel as a striker rather wasting on wings.
This is insane! How has a nothing (albeit entirely correct) comment triggered so many people? Are you all just emotional because your academy has been stagnant for so long and you are DESPERATE for someone to make it?Bloke on a football forum demanding attention
Rashford - Mason --Sancho could do the business if Ralf finds a way to get the best out of them
I'm not triggered I laughing at your strange languageAsking others to PAY ATTENTION is most desperate thing I've read on the forum for awhile.
really getting worried about the lack of his right foot these days. He used to be so comfortable on both feet but he seems to ignore his right now even if it’s the better option.
I wonder why this is? not practicing as much anymore? confidence? coaching?
I wonder why this is? not practicing as much anymore? confidence? coaching?
It's not really his fault but he that classic centre forward mentality. It's all about goals. Which is great when you're a centre forward. Not so good when you're a right winger. You need the opposite approach.
Imo it was his plan when he said Mane, Firmino, Salah were not natural ball winner but it was the job of coaching made them such.
So far he's managed those three pretty well I think. We also have Elanga who works really hard comming through.
If those players are willing to listen to Ralf and work really hard, which Greenwood, Elanga and to some extent Rashford have been showing lately we'll be able to have one of the most promising and deadly front three in Europe imo.
They surely have a lot of talent. I'd say those three are already among the best under 25 forwards in the world atm. You can't name many under 25 who are better than them. With enough commitment, right attitude and some good coaching they definitely would excel I think.
I thought it was to do with losing confidence in his right foot but then on the left he started coming in on his right! He just doesn’t seem to want to go on the outside - which is annoying because the defenders are completely wise to him now and massively overcompensate that he’s going to cut in - they leave him loads of space.
Anyway the stick he’s getting in here is fecking ludicrous. I’m assuming it’s some weird correlation between Ronaldo fanboyism and blaming everyone else for his shite performances (granted he was good yesterday - praise the fecking Lord) and the fetish many on here have of slagging everything United and British off. Fletcher, Carrick, Rashford, Greenwood, Maguire - it’s fecking tedious. He’s 20 years old for fecks sake. He’s not the saviour and nor should he be. He’s developing and anyone who can’t see his all round link up play and dribbling away from the box is improving immensely is a fecking moron.
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I don’t think he deserves being slaughtered, but it’s a clear regression in his game which is legitimate concern.
While he’s improved in some areas his shooting has definitely regressed for some reason.
Anyway yes still young, might just be having 1 of those seasons.
I don’t think he deserves being slaughtered, but it’s a clear regression in his game which is legitimate concern.
While he’s improved in some areas his shooting has definitely regressed for some reason.
Anyway yes still young, might just be having 1 of those seasons.
You would not know quality if it slapped you in the face.
Quality pie?
He's scored one goal from cutting in so far this season, hasn't he? Leicester.
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