Can you tell me more about the award? Who votes? Who is nominated and how? Etc.
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Oh give it a rest man. The has feck all to do with me
Can you?
"Getafe named him player of the year" 
No, because there's feck all info about it despite its prestige, and the page in the official Mahou website is broken.
Mate, your entire argument so far is “I only watched a few games” and “I don’t know what this award is”.
I can tell you that both Atletico and Real say the monthly fan vote “Jugador Cinco Estrellas” is in cooperation with sponsor Mahou, (and that this is totalled up for the season).
I’m not really arsed aside from that, Getafe were by all reports delighted with him and he was their second top scorer.
He’s never coming back to England, but my point stands that he’s not some unknown quantity in France, he’s proven his worth already in bigger league and would be less of a “punt” than a top scorer in France in a breakout season.
But I don’t think there is any chance Marseille will be selling, his extensive baggage will always drop his price a fair bit for potential buyers, and the sell on clause won’t make it worth their while. Sadly I can’t see us getting much more money in from this one.
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I asked you to tell me more about the award but you refused to educate me
I do know the trophy itself is the logo of the beer company that sponsors it.
He's scored 6 penalties, so that's 13 goals from open play in about 28 full 90's.
Very good, nothing crazy. Think he'll be an interesting option for a striker for many clubs.
Doubt he'll be world class though.
Very good, nothing crazy. Think he'll be an interesting option for a striker for many clubs.
Doubt he'll be world class though.
Well if you’re going to bring up an award as an argument to suggest he was excellent in his time there, the least you can do is add some context as to what the award is actually based on
In fairness, PSG seemed willing. Although their luck with strikers lately probably says it all.
All you need to know is here: https://www.mahou.es/futbol/jugador-cinco-estrellas/s/experiencias-mahou/futbol/Well if you’re going to bring up an award as an argument to suggest he was excellent in his time there, the least you can do is add some context as to what the award is actually based on
Think you're overestimating the morality of big clubs, especially those not in England. There are countless instances of footballers doing shitty disgusting things but not actually being in legal trouble, and many of them played for big clubs afterwards.
These clubs won't let him just constantly bang in 20-30 goals a year without one of them biting the bullet. Sadly, there's too much money in football and a goal needy side will do it and deal with the fan backlash later.
In fairness, didn’t we (the Prem) used to dish out a big ugly thing with a Barclays eagle on it for the POTY?
When he starts doing that he may gain some traction but without penalties he is stuck in the 10-15 goals a year range of which there are dozens of other options that don't bring the kind of headaches he does. He is good enough that he gets to continue his career but he is really not so good that a big club will want to deal with the negative press alongside his seemingly continued lackadaisical approach to being a professional footballer. I think Marseille is about his level and any moves he makes will be to clubs of a similar profile and for a similar fee, I am certainly not counting on getting any kind of windfall from the sell on clause at this point.
30m for Dorgu makes us look like we still are at the minute.
He’s likely to get 21 league goals, and end his season on 36 games, 22 goals and 5 assists.
Are there really many other wide forwards hitting those stats?
I think a club would buy him for sure, such as like A Madrid or a Napoli, but his fee for that level of baggage is too prohibitive, Marseille need too much money for it to be worth their while.
Maybe if he starts hitting silly stats as you say, increasing that to 35 g/a in a season.
That is it really, he is at that level where factoring in the 50% clause I cannot see a bid that would be worth it to Marseille based on his current production. If they got 40 million they would be looking at a profit of just 7 million and they would need to replace his production in their team ahead of a Champions League campaign, I doubt they would want to accept. They have bitten the bullet and ridden out any negative reaction to his signing and they are going to want to reap the rewards either in terms of goals or a substantial profit and I don't see the latter as being likely.
You could argue this is his first proper returning to football. Any team without reservations buying him are best buying him now. Next season chances are that he'll kick on.
I watched quite a bit yes. He didn’t put up excellent numbers for one of the worst sides in the league. He was not playing as a striker and he was actually really good
He was also nominated for La Liga Team of the Year - he didn't make the final team TBF but it's a pretty good indicator
And he obviously did enough to get a bigger move to Marseille - the question is, has he done enough this season to step up again?
The problem is that if Marseille need to give us a chunk of the profit then they probably would want more than he's realistically worth to replace him - I expect he'll stay there another year which is not ideal for United but let's see next year
I watch Marseille quite often. He deffo doesn’t play ‘RW’ so to speak. More of a floating forward. De Zerbi kind of had to change system as well because he has poor workrate and they were conceding a lot playing with three forwards and he was a non entity defensively. But he definitely hasn’t mean an out an out right winger but he has done well. Still an excellent finisher with great feet.
Thing is, outside of England he is unfortunately not as toxic as one might expect. And his name, early expectations based on talent, and coming from Manchester United to play for Getafe actually put a lot of positive focus on him. Something similar is happening now with Antony as well
Point is he was good but absolutely nowhere so good as to merit consideration for TOTS. Plenty of less heralded players for similar teams were better than him
16 goal contributions in 36 games for Getafe is quite good considering he hadn’t played professional in over a year and Getafe play very negative football.
Putain! What a strike!
Peacock app fecking up right before the match and now seeing that’s put me in a foul mood.
It's so annoying that he did what he did as he would have been perfect for us right now.
Such a bugger how our M&M’s turned our, Mason being a wrong ‘un, Martial a perma crock and Marcus a lazy fecker.
How things could have been different.
How things could have been different.
Nothing gets people frothing like a mediocre goal.
The odd 20 goals will do that after watching Hojlund week after week
No argument there, just a genuine shame our brightest talent turned out to be a horrible person.
His ball striking technique has always been exceptional. He hits it with so much power that the keeper barely has a chance. Reckon he'll get his big move to a top European club soon.
2 goals and assist, Top scorer in Ligue 1.
Such a good finisher. Probably one of the best finishers we’ve had at the club.
“Greenwood scored”
“We don’t care”
This thread until the end of time
“We don’t care”
This thread until the end of time
Golden boot incoming
He'd have to take ownership of what he did before he could come back here. Or even come back to England. And he's never gonna do that.
He’s going to end up somewhere, just not sure where. He’s got world class ability.
The only big English side I can see taking a punt is Arsenal. They don’t seem to have any issue playing a certain unnamed premier league player.
If Alonso wasn’t going to Madrid and changing the formation, I could have seen him there on the right in the 433
The only big English side I can see taking a punt is Arsenal. They don’t seem to have any issue playing a certain unnamed premier league player.
If Alonso wasn’t going to Madrid and changing the formation, I could have seen him there on the right in the 433