Mason Greenwood, Marseille Footballer | Read the thread rules in the OP before posting

This precedent suggests that you can do this as Utrecht lost the case.

Yes, that's what I meant to say.

No idea why, but I thought I was replying to a question asking if there's anything to stop it hence me saying "probably not".

Seems I imagined that, and yes, I think they can do that.

We've seen similar dodgy looking workarounds with PSR recently although perhaps not quite as obvious.
 
We should have put a clause on where we get money if he scores 15+ league goals for them.
 
Yes, that's what I meant to say.

No idea why, but I thought I was replying to a question asking if there's anything to stop it hence me saying "probably not".

Seems I imagined that, and yes, I think they can do that.

We've seen similar dodgy looking workarounds with PSR recently although perhaps not quite as obvious.

Got you. I think there have been a few dodgy cases over the years, as pointed out, often PSR related.

The Melo and Pjanic deal immediately comes to mind.

There’s not a lot that can be done except investigate latest cases afterwards. Otherwise you would need some sort of fair value committee to approve transfers and that’s not practical- although surely such a committee would have flagged the Antony and Onana transfers as clearly dodgy!

Like you say, can’t really stop it.
 
Yes, that's what I meant to say.

No idea why, but I thought I was replying to a question asking if there's anything to stop it hence me saying "probably not".

Seems I imagined that, and yes, I think they can do that.

We've seen similar dodgy looking workarounds with PSR recently although perhaps not quite as obvious.

That's exactly how I phrased my question. I said "anything stopping from PSG from...." so you were right to answer it with a "Probably not"....!
 
Got you. I think there have been a few dodgy cases over the years, as pointed out, often PSR related.

The Melo and Pjanic deal immediately comes to mind.

There’s not a lot that can be done except investigate latest cases afterwards. Otherwise you would need some sort of fair value committee to approve transfers and that’s not practical- although surely such a committee would have flagged the Antony and Onana transfers as clearly dodgy!

Like you say, can’t really stop it.
Onana wasn't dodgy, he was hyped and played a great CL season for Inter. Hype drives up prices, dodgy doesn't fit here in my opinion.
Antony wasn't dodgy as well - it was downright dumb. Ajax didn't want to sell late in the window, so they created a pricetag they thought would push away any potential buyers. We were just so dumb and desperate that we still followed through. I'd love to be in that Ajax office watching the reactions when the email came in that United were ready to pay that amount for Antony. I am sure they thought to be part of some sort of practical joke.

Otherwise, I do like the idea of such a comittee, although I also agree, it is probably difficult to execute. Could consist of anonymous questionaires though - like if a deal seems dodgy for the FA, then it triggers a process where every CEO of the league clubs has to answer what they think would be a fair value of the player. Then FA takes the averages and if the deal in question is in excess of that by more than 10 or 20%, it is either stopped, or a more thorough process has to follow.
 
Onana wasn't dodgy, he was hyped and played a great CL season for Inter. Hype drives up prices, dodgy doesn't fit here in my opinion.
Antony wasn't dodgy as well - it was downright dumb. Ajax didn't want to sell late in the window, so they created a pricetag they thought would push away any potential buyers. We were just so dumb and desperate that we still followed through. I'd love to be in that Ajax office watching the reactions when the email came in that United were ready to pay that amount for Antony. I am sure they thought to be part of some sort of practical joke.

Otherwise, I do like the idea of such a comittee, although I also agree, it is probably difficult to execute. Could consist of anonymous questionaires though - like if a deal seems dodgy for the FA, then it triggers a process where every CEO of the league clubs has to answer what they think would be a fair value of the player. Then FA takes the averages and if the deal in question is in excess of that by more than 10 or 20%, it is either stopped, or a more thorough process has to follow.
I was being somewhat sarcastic, and not saying they were ‘dodgy’ as in there was some nefarious activity involved.

Just saying if there was some sort of fair value committee (which there wouldn’t be) - then they would laugh at those transfers, and kick them back - esp. Antony and some others that we have made.

There’s a process to determine fair value of physical assets (I.e hotels), and effectively they have tried to implement standard accounting practices on the game. So maybe it’s but that daft an idea!
 
Genuine question not intending to offend... People who commit such act, do they ever regret what they've done? I suppose people would only believe that if he made a public statement acknowledging what he did and apologising for it, would he then be forgiven?
 
Nar, Argetina won the WC with a midget man walking around the middle of the pitch.

You can press high up but still spend lots of time walking, as long as your team is good at pressing as a unit. United are shit at pressing as a team, yet we expect our forwards to run all over the pitch, most fans these days seem these days to value this above goals & creativity.
Ronaldo won how many CL’s without being a pressing monster?

You realise the two examples you gave are considered two of the best players to have ever kicked a ball around?

So yeah, if you are a multi Balon Dor level player, walk around as much as you want.
 
Genuine question not intending to offend... People who commit such act, do they ever regret what they've done? I suppose people would only believe that if he made a public statement acknowledging what he did and apologising for it, would he then be forgiven?

I'm sure most people that do awful things regret doing them.

Greenwood denies doing what most people think he did, that's a huge issue for many and why the general uk footballing public won't forgive him.

The pics and the audio are out there and he's never tried to explain either to the public. He doesn't owe me an explanation but without one I'll think what I think.
 
I'm sure most people that do awful things regret doing them.

Greenwood denies doing what most people think he did, that's a huge issue for many and why the general uk footballing public won't forgive him.

The pics and the audio are out there and he's never tried to explain either to the public. He doesn't owe me an explanation but without one I'll think what I think.
I wonder how many regret doing the thing because it was an awful thing and how many regret it because of the repercussions from doing the thing.
 
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I think he is a fantastic footballer. He's got that X factor that we could do with right now. Wishing him all the best on his career wherever he goes.
 
Hard to believe that we are not cursed. While our team struggles for goals one of our best academy products in years goes on to score a ton for another team. Why did he have to be a fecking dunce!

Hopefully, we will get a windfall when he moves to a bigger club for a big sum. That would be his biggest contribution to our cause.
 
Honestly his numbers are even more impressive given how he was out of the game for so long, have to give it to him. Wonder what the interest will be like for him in the summer. Don't see any other french club getting him other than PSG who don't really need him. A move to one of the Spanish teams?
 
hey the good thing is tat we have a sell-on clause. The better he plays the better for us.
 
The only way he can play again for England or an English club is after a public interview alongside his wife and telling the world they have moved on and football fans should also move on.
 
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We bought Rasmus for 70+ after a lot less right? I don’t think it’s too far away from what someone might be willing to pay. He’s a goal scorer and there aren’t that many around.

We’d pay it if he wasn’t who he is.
No team in Europe is as foolish as us, unfortunately.
 
The only way he can play again for England or an English club is after a public interview alongside his wife and telling the world they have moved on and football fans should also move on.
Or Arsenal could sign him and stick their fingers in their ears like they currently doing. They are media darlings too so the coverage would lean into them "rehabilitating" him.
 
I wouldn’t be crying about Henderson either. If VAR did its job he’d have got a brain dead red card in his clubs biggest game in years.
Henderson is a better keeper than Onana that's for sure. I didnt understand the hate he got when he was here, young keepers need a bit of time and patience. Too often the fans seem to turn on young players if they are not consistent, which is part of being young. Look at the hate that Mainoo gets as a good example. I would hate to see us sell him and spend a fortune on another midfielder who will prove in the end to be worse.
 
The only way he can play again for England or an English club is after a public interview alongside his wife and telling the world they have moved on and football fans should also move on.

I think a public interview would just intensify everything.

If he ever ended up back in England his club would just refuse to acknowledge it, ala a unnamed Premier League midfielder playing in North London.

Clubs don’t have morales, look at the career Marcos Alonso has had despite killing someone.
 
Looking at the scoring record of forwards in Italy, surely he'd smash it there. I'm sure there's a club with loose enough morals in Serie A
 
Henderson is a better keeper than Onana that's for sure. I didnt understand the hate he got when he was here, young keepers need a bit of time and patience. Too often the fans seem to turn on young players if they are not consistent, which is part of being young. Look at the hate that Mainoo gets as a good example. I would hate to see us sell him and spend a fortune on another midfielder who will prove in the end to be worse.

I’m with you on the lack of patience for young footballers. I just think we could have done a hell of a lot better than Henderson when we replaced De Gea (and, unfortunately, Onana)
 
I’m with you on the lack of patience for young footballers. I just think we could have done a hell of a lot better than Henderson when we replaced De Gea (and, unfortunately, Onana)
I wouldn’t have Henderson back. Sure he was one of the ‘leakers’ and a terrible whiner.
 
The only way he can play again for England or an English club is after a public interview alongside his wife and telling the world they have moved on and football fans should also move on.
I always thought this was his only way 'out' of the situation. For his wife to do a round of pr trying to explain away the circumstances of what happened.

Obviously, she doesn't want to do that. For what I'm sure, are very good reasons.

So, that makes it very hard, if not impossible to have career in england. Although, time is a healer. So, maybe, one day, I guess.

At the moment, he's a bit out of sight, out of mind. And it does seem that any objections in france to him have died down.
 
Because he good at kick ball and that's the most important thing for some.

Depressing that it is.
 
Why is anyone even thinking or talking about the rapey little twat?
Two reasons:
- watching Hojlund every week
- having a sell-on clause to profit from if he does well and move to a bigger club
 
The only way he can play again for England or an English club is after a public interview alongside his wife and telling the world they have moved on and football fans should also move on.
It's not just football fans though. Also, I still think there's legal issues to doing that too.

There will be no admission to anything, which is precisely why this dream some harbour of rehabilitation/second chances can't realistically be a thing in many eyes.

Because he good at kick ball and that's the most important thing for some.

Depressing that it is.
Sadly this is very true. As has been proven over and over including on this very page.
 
He's had a great season, no surprise as a fantastic player. If it hadnt been for the obvious, he'd be up there with the top strikers in the world.
 
Two reasons:
- watching Hojlund every week
- having a sell-on clause to profit from if he does well and move to a bigger club
When we need a new player I always long from some utter twat that we got rid of for being a despicable twat. Seems sensible.