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The Red Thinker said:
22/23 Season - Mount Missed 13 games
21/22 Season - Mount Missed 4 games
Barely missed any before that.

Then we bought him. I wouldn't call that a bad injury history at all. So in my opinion the anger is unjustified with regards to buying a player with a par for the course injury history in the league.

As for sharing the position Bruno plays, I thought all top class clubs had readymade subs for all positions. From my limited understanding of football over the last 30 years, I think this is what you call a very good squad signing for a position - when Bruno needs subbing or is injured - is a great buy given his qualities. 50 million quid for an England starting XI level player is by no means horrendous business. The argument that money should have gone elsewhere is understandable, but not something that should be the root cause of so much hate.

I feel for Mason. He never causes problems. Disciplined on and off the pitch. By all accounts a hard worker and good personality. I just think perennially online, Twitter addicted fans have lost all sense of reality.
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Considering he was constantly injured from January 2023 until the end of that season, that's what makes it a lot worse. 18/19 he also had 22 games missed through injury before having 3 good seasons for what it's worth. But when a player picks up constant injuries and misses half a season, and then you sign him for big money when you have just 1 year left on his contract... that's just dumb.

In terms of the depth aspect, you have to be smart about it. You don't have ready made top players for every position. You look at the players you have starting. If your starter is your main player, your captain, and plays pretty much every minute of every game, every season.... then you simply don't invest much in their backup. Usually you go for a younger player or a versatile player who can play elsewhere regularly but can fill in there if needed in case of emergency. If your starter is Luke Shaw where you are confident he will miss a good amount of game time, then yes, you need to get a ready made starter who can compete with him.

Mason Mount was just a shit signing. It's fine to admit it. He's a good player when fit, but his fitness had big red flags, his price was shit given his contract situation, and our team just did not need him at all. That doesn't mean he can't change his future or he can't make it work out in the end. Like I said... he got a bit lucky that Amorim came in and now we will play with 2 #10's. In a 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 system, he was never going to be more than a backup for Bruno. Now he'll just have more game time, if he can get fit.
 
DJ_21 said:
The likes of Shaw and Malacia have been injured for months and months. Suddenly available. Not saying there faking it. Just saying is it a coincidence that there all back so quick.
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It’s not a coincidence , Over time, shockingly, injuries heal.
Malacia has been back in training for about 6 weeks well before ETH got sacked .
Believe it or believe it not we will get more injuries under Amorim.
 
bosnian_red said:
Considering he was constantly injured from January 2023 until the end of that season, that's what makes it a lot worse. 18/19 he also had 22 games missed through injury before having 3 good seasons for what it's worth. But when a player picks up constant injuries and misses half a season, and then you sign him for big money when you have just 1 year left on his contract... that's just dumb.

In terms of the depth aspect, you have to be smart about it. You don't have ready made top players for every position. You look at the players you have starting. If your starter is your main player, your captain, and plays pretty much every minute of every game, every season.... then you simply don't invest much in their backup. Usually you go for a younger player or a versatile player who can play elsewhere regularly but can fill in there if needed in case of emergency. If your starter is Luke Shaw where you are confident he will miss a good amount of game time, then yes, you need to get a ready made starter who can compete with him.

Mason Mount was just a shit signing. It's fine to admit it. He's a good player when fit, but his fitness had big red flags, his price was shit given his contract situation, and our team just did not need him at all. That doesn't mean he can't change his future or he can't make it work out in the end. Like I said... he got a bit lucky that Amorim came in and now we will play with 2 #10's. In a 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 system, he was never going to be more than a backup for Bruno. Now he'll just have more game time, if he can get fit.
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Given where we were and what we actually needed this was a poor signing and reflected the poor decision making of the Woodward era. This is not hindsight but using the £60m to first add the 20 or so million needed to bring in a real goal scorer not a project one and getting in a young DM with good technical ability who could play with or without Casemiro was the move to make.

We failed last season because of misapropriation of the budget in pursuit of a flawed grand plan. Circumstances have changed and we have a new coach whose style could make him a useful or even prominent player in the team but, on the information available during the summer of 23, signing him for the fee we were quoted was a big and wasteful mistake.
 
he’s clearly a very likeable player who a number of coaches enjoy working with.

If he can get over these injury issues there’s a clear role for him here now so pretty much on him to take the opportunity.
 
The Red Thinker said:
22/23 Season - Mount Missed 13 games
21/22 Season - Mount Missed 4 games
Barely missed any before that.

Then we bought him. I wouldn't call that a bad injury history at all. So in my opinion the anger is unjustified with regards to buying a player with a par for the course injury history in the league.

As for sharing the position Bruno plays, I thought all top class clubs had readymade subs for all positions. From my limited understanding of football over the last 30 years, I think this is what you call a very good squad signing for a position - when Bruno needs subbing or is injured - is a great buy given his qualities. 50 million quid for an England starting XI level player is by no means horrendous business. The argument that money should have gone elsewhere is understandable, but not something that should be the root cause of so much hate.

I feel for Mason. He never causes problems. Disciplined on and off the pitch. By all accounts a hard worker and good personality. I just think perennially online, Twitter addicted fans have lost all sense of reality.
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It’s really very simple. People hate bad luck. If they are less reflective, they tend to hate any person they associate with bad luck. They’ll hate you if you sell them a bad lottery ticket.
 
He was useless under ETH, which was predicatble.

He has a new chance now under Amorim. Make or break time for his United career. The role and style should suit him
 
Let's hope he can get over his injuries because, like Shaw, given the length of his contract, we're unlikely to be able to offload him any time soon.
 
Adnan said:
If he can stay injury free then he can absolutely be a big asset for the team. It's no surprise that Amorim is talking him up because Mount has the ability to be a key cog in a system that demands physicality, intensity and tenacity. And imo Mount is our best player in a advanced midfield position as far as athleticism is concerned and he has the running power to both be highly effective out of possession in a coordinated high press and is a real team player when we have the ball which would benefit the whole team rather than what we've seen in the last decade where individualism has shone over a more team oriented dynamic which has been to our detriment as a team. It's no surprise he was a player Tuchel really liked and played his part in their champions league winning run.

Identity, culture, leadership and a winning mentality all stems from the training ground. And if players are only turning up for matchdays and not applying themselves in training then we might win a few games here and there, but over the course of a season it will come back to bite us in the backside. So everything has to start on the training ground and then manifest itself on matchdays.
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Spot on mate :+1:
 
izec said:
He was useless under ETH, which was predicatble.

He has a new chance now under Amorim. Make or break time for his United career. The role and style should suit him
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A lot of players were useless under Amorim. Hopefully we use Mount sparingly for a while to try not to aggravate the injury. We will need him as realistically Bruno, Mount and Amad are probably the only three players really suited to that AM role (maybe Zirkzee too).
 
Red Rash said:
A lot of players were useless under Amorim. Hopefully we use Mount sparingly for a while to try not to aggravate the injury. We will need him as realistically Bruno, Mount and Amad are probably the only three players really suited to that AM role (maybe Zirkzee too).
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Heh?
 
We've had some expensive transfers over the last few years. Antony is most certainly lost cause but hopefully some of them, like Mount, start paying off. Squeezing more from Casemiro over next 6 months (or longer if he is to stay beyond next summer) would be great as well.
 
It is not as if you are wrong
I am sure there have been players at Ruben's previous clubs that have not worked out.
 
bosnian_red said:
Mason Mount was just a shit signing. It's fine to admit it. He's a good player when fit, but his fitness had big red flags, his price was shit given his contract situation, and our team just did not need him at all. That doesn't mean he can't change his future or he can't make it work out in the end. Like I said... he got a bit lucky that Amorim came in and now we will play with 2 #10's. In a 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 system, he was never going to be more than a backup for Bruno. Now he'll just have more game time, if he can get fit.
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We took the opportunity to sign a good, established player, at a good age, from a rival. Holistically, we did, and do, need him - Amorim has just spoke about areas where the team is weak and Mount excels. And he can excel starting from positions other than the one occupied by our captain, including in a 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3. And playing with two no.10's is popular now and was when we bought him, it's not particularly lucky.

Mount was not categorically a shit signing. Concerns about his fitness have obviously been proven to be completely justified. And because he's not been fit, naturally the money looks wasted. Had he been available to a good extent, he could have proved to be an important player here under ten Hag.
 
Acquire Me said:
I am going to love every moment. Egg on face on a lot of haters.
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I can't trust you. You wanted ten Hag to stay after the FA Cup final, giving it to all the "haters", then 5 minutes into this season you wanted him out!
 
bosnian_red said:
Considering he was constantly injured from January 2023 until the end of that season, that's what makes it a lot worse. 18/19 he also had 22 games missed through injury before having 3 good seasons for what it's worth. But when a player picks up constant injuries and misses half a season, and then you sign him for big money when you have just 1 year left on his contract... that's just dumb.

In terms of the depth aspect, you have to be smart about it. You don't have ready made top players for every position. You look at the players you have starting. If your starter is your main player, your captain, and plays pretty much every minute of every game, every season.... then you simply don't invest much in their backup. Usually you go for a younger player or a versatile player who can play elsewhere regularly but can fill in there if needed in case of emergency. If your starter is Luke Shaw where you are confident he will miss a good amount of game time, then yes, you need to get a ready made starter who can compete with him.

Mason Mount was just a shit signing. It's fine to admit it. He's a good player when fit, but his fitness had big red flags, his price was shit given his contract situation, and our team just did not need him at all. That doesn't mean he can't change his future or he can't make it work out in the end. Like I said... he got a bit lucky that Amorim came in and now we will play with 2 #10's. In a 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 system, he was never going to be more than a backup for Bruno. Now he'll just have more game time, if he can get fit.
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Don't know why you feel the need to exaggerate. Mount had one injury from March 2023 that ultimately needed surgery, so was out for less than a third of the season.

He was at Chelsea for four seasons and barely missed a game up until that pelvic injury in his last three months. While buying any player on the back of an injury that requires surgery obviously carries a small amount of risk, there was nothing to indicate he'd have injury problems going forward. Indeed based on history he would have been our second fittest player behind only Bruno.

Mount wasn't bought as a backup. We played two #10's last season, so he was bought to play next to Bruno. Which is exactly how we started the season before he got injured, and then McTominay and then later Mainoo replaced him playing in that same role. After a couple of months of ETH going back to a more normal 4231, now under Amorim we are once again going to play with two #10's.
 
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Yagami said:
I can't trust you. You wanted ten Hag to stay after the FA Cup final, giving it to all the "haters", then 5 minutes into this season you wanted him out!
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Changed my mind. I tend to stay behind the manager and I think everyone need time and proper backing. But I just stopped liking him. The press conferences were so bad. So so boring.

I think it was the wrong move to keep him on, but that’s behind us now.

Regarding Mount, that’s another story. Most will probably agree that his injuries have been devastating for him(and us) and if fit cam be a real asset for us.
 
If he can't make it under Amorim's system then he's done here. Those two 10 spots in Amorim's formation are made for a player like him. Let's hope he can take the opportunity and make something out of it.
 
Ipswich 1:1 Man Utd New
Only got like 8 minutes of time. But didn’t do much nonetheless, needs to gradually gain form
 
I can't remember a single time he's actually controlled a ball here, when he's been fit that is.

I just have this mental image of him just running around aimlessly . Just always running.
 
You have to say he has to be pound for pound the worst signing we've made. Factor wage, fee and appearances along with the fact he isn't even a first choice pick when fit and he's the worst in my opinion.
 
Devil81 said:
You have to say he has to be pound for pound the worst signing we've made. Factor wage, fee and appearances along with the fact he isn't even a first choice pick when fit and he's the worst in my opinion.
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I'm a huge critic of his signign, but he's not worse then Van de Beek in "pound for pound" terms.
 
Annihilate Now! said:
I'm a huge critic of his signign, but he's not worse then Van de Beek in "pound for pound" terms.
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Van De Beek was on less than half of the salary of Mason Mount. I personally think that makes him a worse signing myself.

In terms of appearances there can't be much in it.
 
This guy has brought me zero excitement. Got more from the likes of Bebe, Mame Briam Diouf, Manucho and even with Dong y was somewhat amused. This guy is just nothing, whenever I see him control/pass is just a 3 meter pass and a control without any pressure, and then creates nothing. Gets into good positions and never makes the most of it. He's probably a very nice person and a pro that has dealt with injuries but I just don't see him doing anything creative/exciting/impactful.

I also can't really see him in a midfield of 2 under this new setup and he's def not going to play wingback... so he's probably fighting for one of the two spots behind the striker (Bruno proabbly taking one most of the time) so there's no plausible way he gets a good enough run of games. We're always shoe-horning him and that's clearly not beneficial for him or for us.

I'm sure a team like Newcaslte would be a better suit and they could also offer him to fight for a CL spot.

Hopefully this one is full of quotes laughing at how he changed things around in 3-4 months time, I'll be the happiest.
 
Devil81 said:
You have to say he has to be pound for pound the worst signing we've made. Factor wage, fee and appearances along with the fact he isn't even a first choice pick when fit and he's the worst in my opinion.
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Devil81 said:
Van De Beek was on less than half of the salary of Mason Mount. I personally think that makes him a worse signing myself.

In terms of appearances there can't be much in it.
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Mount is proven at the top level and can be an asset if he stops getting injured. We'll see now that he's back. DvB was about lack of quality, it is not the case for Mount.
 
sherrinford said:
We took the opportunity to sign a good, established player, at a good age, from a rival. Holistically, we did, and do, need him - Amorim has just spoke about areas where the team is weak and Mount excels. And he can excel starting from positions other than the one occupied by our captain, including in a 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3. And playing with two no.10's is popular now and was when we bought him, it's not particularly lucky.

Mount was not categorically a shit signing. Concerns about his fitness have obviously been proven to be completely justified. And because he's not been fit, naturally the money looks wasted. Had he been available to a good extent, he could have proved to be an important player here under ten Hag.
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Assuming things went better than they did and ETH were still manager, what would Mount’s role be?
 
Devil81 said:
You have to say he has to be pound for pound the worst signing we've made. Factor wage, fee and appearances along with the fact he isn't even a first choice pick when fit and he's the worst in my opinion.
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No chance, Antony was far worse.

At least Mount had prior showings of succeeding in the PL and CL, even if he wasn't a great fit here. Antony cost 30m more with far less talent or proven production.
 
I have zero desire to say anything about Mason Mount, positive or negative, until we can see that he can stay fit for the most of the season. As it stands, he can be amazing, but if he plays 2.5 games per season - what is the effing point?
 
Man Utd 3:2 FK Bodo/Glimt New
He was pretty awful apart from a flick this evening. He can't hold the ball up with his back to goal, lost a good few balls in dangerous positions.
 
Much better #10 than Bruno currently. He just needs to stay fit.
 
Today is one of the only times where I've thought that Mount could actually offer something important to our team. The formation change plus manager might go massively in his favour.
 
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