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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 27
- Goals
- 3
- Assists
- 0
- Yellow cards
- 4
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Nik (@Rood), Jamie (@Vault Dweller) and Ed (@That'sHernandez) give their end of season awards out! They celebrate the best players, goals and moments of the season (there were some, honestly) and also give out awards for the worst and most disappointing players/moments of the season.
They then discuss all the latest transfer rumours and get into the potential ins and outs this summer at Old Trafford.
Please call Eric he saw a 60m player, I think it's just you.
He needs to stay fit for an extended period. I haven't completely given up hope that we can see him thrive under Amorim. After all, he had his best spell at Chelsea while playing in a very similar system to Amorim's system. The big question mark is simply if he will be able to stay fit.
Nearly 2 years at the club and still not possible to judge him.
Let's say he does stay fit and returns to his best days, or even improves as he is yet to hit his prime. What are his best attributes? He's hard working and quite quick on the turn; he's a decent short passer and link-up player and seems to move into space quite well. But, what else?
He is also a good goal scorer, for a midfield player.
When fit and in form, he's basically Bruno lite. As in, he has a lot of Bruno's skillset without quite being as effective, which isn't exactly a bad thing given how good Bruno is.
One of his best qualities is his versatility. He can play as a 6, 7, 8, or 10.
If he’s fit, he is basically a brand new signing for next year who Amorim can use in variety of roles.
We can judge he's not very fit
More of the same, he's supposed to be some wonder player when fit whilst he's barely shown anything in around 20 cameos.
It's the hope that kills.
It's the hope that kills.
Apart from what others have mentioned he also has a good shot on him and takes set pieces.
He needs to contribute this season in some way. Play a pivotal role in a European run, dictate a game, score winners. It is utterly unacceptable otherwise.
28 goals in 154 PL matches — averages 1 goal every 5.5 games. That’s not particularly good for an attacking midfielder.
How would he compare to Bruno for non penalty goals a game? Bruno will obviously be better; but would be interesting to see.
What you’ve said, basically. Someone said he can play no.6 above.
He’s an off the ball half space guy. Peak Mason Mount (which definitely doesn’t exist anymore) is basically the final form boss of good form Lingard, van de Beek type etc. aggressive counter presser, “links well” in the final third, used to be good at dead ball situations.
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Bruno has 40 non-penalty goals in 16,503 premier league minutes, which a goal every 412 minutes.
Mount has 26 non-penalty goals in 10,612 premier league minutes, which is a goal every 408 minutes.
I used footystats.org
Bruno has 40 non-penalty goals in 16,503 premier league minutes, which a goal every 412 minutes.
Mount has 26 non-penalty goals in 10,612 premier league minutes, which is a goal every 408 minutes.
I used footystats.org
Mount as a no.6, maybe in EtH's tactics. The reputation he has under some is amazing.What you’ve said, basically. Someone said he can play no.6 above.
He’s an off the ball half space guy. Peak Mason Mount (which definitely doesn’t exist anymore) is basically the final form boss of good form Lingard, van de Beek type etc. aggressive counter presser, “links well” in the final third, used to be good at dead ball situations.
Even at his peak, jt was visible that he's nowhere near world class but just a player that fitted perfectly in Chelsea's system. Was useless every time he put on an England shirt.
I wanted him at Ajax to replace Ziyech back then, but it was already apparent that he didn't even had close to his ability but was a very well rounded, dynamic midfielder.
Some were saying that we were getting a 100 million midfielder on reduced prices, it's bizarre.
Both have definitely dwindled as they’ve gotten older — the no.10 Fernandes we first signed was a real goal threat (even without pens) and now he’s a lot more of a central midfielder deeper player.
Add in assists though and it’s a bigger gap. Fernandes averages a G/A every 147~ mins; Mount every 212~.
Half of Mount's assists also came from set-pieces when Chelsea had the likes of Silva and Rudiger to aim for. His creativity is well below par, he hasn't registered an assist in the PL since 2022. The comparison with Lingard is more apt.
How many of those Mount minutes have been for us?
So much of this discussion is so pointless. Until he proves himself capable of staying fit, it doesnt matter if he's as talented as Messi or Bebe. I really want him to succeed and he's younger than I thought, but watching him try chase down Tonali in stoppage time was tragic.
He has 817 minutes in the league for us (so the equivalent of about 9 full games over nearly two seasons), with one goal and no assists.
Yeah. I just posted goals because I mentioned he was a good goal scorer from midfield. If Bruno is considered a goal threat from midfield, then so is Mount, was my point.
Not sure. I’m currently in A&E with a broken foot and don’t have the energy to work it out now
I was very surprised by this recruitment, never been particularly impressed with Mount. Obviously never could imagine it would be this bad with injuries and hopefully he gets a break next season and stays injury free.
Probably the biggest car crash transfer by Ten Hag in a string of really poor acquisitions 55 million for an injury prone player on the last year of his contract what was he thinking ?? What’s worse is the club allowed it to go ahead… just waiting for him to break down again in the next few games
You sorta covered it in his movement in his space, but to expand on that, he genuinely looks like an intelligent player. Reads the game very well - like Thomas Muller
Dear me.
Not sure. I’m currently in A&E with a broken foot and don’t have the energy to work it out now
I'll let you off.
Good luck. That sounds nasty.
You might find Mount and Shaw there. Get them to sign your castNot sure. I’m currently in A&E with a broken foot and don’t have the energy to work it out now
Not sure. I’m currently in A&E with a broken foot and don’t have the energy to work it out now
Post three times in the Mason Mount thread while looking in a mirror and you summon a debilitating injury.
Has he played as a 6 recently?
Edit: broke my metatarsal in two places. Proper Manchester United injury.
Thanks mate!I'll let you off.
Good luck. That sounds nasty.
I doubt he’s played as a 6 in his life. He’s a 10 who can at a push play out wide in a Mata type role (but probably with poor results nowadays as he looks to have even less pace than when he was at Chelsea - his attempt to chase back at Tonali was pretty depressing on Sunday). No sensible formation will have him at 8, let alone as a 6.
Did I miss something? Why are we complaining about him when he just got back and is seemingly doing alright for us? Just a hangover from the Newcastle drubbing?
It seemed fine, he went in aggressive assuming Tonali would turn back so he could nip in and win the ball. He didn't. He chased him for a bit and did the right thing by handing him off the CB and staying in position in the middle. I agree that he isn't a CM and should be in the #10 role but not buying the he lost pace narrative. If he stays fit, he'll do well.
You do realise it’s the complete opposite to what you’re saying.
The club decided to go and sign him for a stupid fee, same with our Brazilian. They also had analyst probably shouting at them about mount’s injury record. Yet the decision makers went against it.
I read recently about our Dane was valued at £40 max by the analysts but the club went crazy.
Hopefully under the new ceo / ownership(ish) we won’t go crazy on transfers and we might buy players worth their money and not as injury prone
He averaged around 10 goals a season as a youngster coming through the ranks (and on loan, so admittedly not all in the Prem), according to Talksport. But now has one goal in his last 50 appearances. I’ve no idea what Utd do to players, but it’s really bizarre. He hasn’t just turned into a bad player overnight, there must still be some injury issues going on.
Not even taking the piss but has he even played 50 games for us?
I don’t get what you mean. He's been nigh on constantly injured. There's no mystery here.
His last season at Chelsea. 3 goals.