I'm still waiting to see a game where he isn't a complete ghost.
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 27
- Goals
- 3
- Assists
- 0
- Yellow cards
- 4
How about today? Only played 30 minutes but looked more likely to actually get on the end of something in the opposition box than any other midfielder did in the full 90.
He's performed at a good level in the past so I guess the hope was that he could do it here I guess.
Hope is a dangerous thing.
Van de Beek did it occasionally and still ghosted around. Maybe was more involved than Mainoo and Eriksen, but I have at least seen them peform before. I have yet to see him do anything at all that I can quickly recall 5 minutes after a game ended. He doesn't really do anything. Again, reminiscent of Donny.
Has got the energy, the speed, the technique and the tactical knowledge to theoretically play well in our system, but somehow he is not able to do anything positive. Considering his salary and fee an absolute flop.
The positive is he’s getting at the end of chances but needs to finish it off. That would come with more games I guess as he’s been out for too long/too much.
I know Amorim loves him but if we can get a good fee for him in the summer we should take it and upgrade. I still don’t have faith that he’ll not get injured again next season.
I know Amorim loves him but if we can get a good fee for him in the summer we should take it and upgrade. I still don’t have faith that he’ll not get injured again next season.
Who is that?
Will win us the europa league. Just watch. Then will disappear next season and will have that goal to remember. Lingardesque
you didnt read my post properly
should play him as a false 9. think he would do much better there. He does makes quite a bit of runs behind the defenders.
And i think our slow build up doesnt suit him . and i havent seen him having the passing range or vision to work well in our current setup.
Also, if we have a good striker who pulls defenders out of position, mount can work much better. Our entire team as well though..
And i think our slow build up doesnt suit him . and i havent seen him having the passing range or vision to work well in our current setup.
Also, if we have a good striker who pulls defenders out of position, mount can work much better. Our entire team as well though..
I can think of CL winners that are terrible by now, England Internationals that are average.. not to start about "good age". It doesnt mean that much.
It was weird, and it's weird to see how highly rated he is or was by many.
The most obvious terrible transfer, everyone knew it was going to be a disaster yet the club persisted on paying 60M and giving him a 250k contract. Mind-blowing the way we're handled it's really something, goes beyond my comprehension.
Too much negativity for a player coming back from back-to-back injuries, he clearly lacks match sharpness, and will need to get up to speed, he is not absolutely absolved of course in terms of his actual performance but the negativity is OTT.
I admit that I don't think we should keep him if a buyer offers a decent fee, but if his persistent injuries are behind him then he could be an option in the number 10 role.
I admit that I don't think we should keep him if a buyer offers a decent fee, but if his persistent injuries are behind him then he could be an option in the number 10 role.
Yeah, that is what really stands out and is so frustrating about this one. Sancho, Antony, Onana, the list goes on - they were all reasonable and sometimes exciting transfers at first. But Mount did not just seem finished at Chelsea - it was also very clear that we would not need him even if he was half-decent, because we have Bruno. I still can't understand why EtH wanted him. There were so many spots to improve this seasons and we decided to make him one of three transfers and spent 60M. There wasn't even any competition for him, Chelsea are still laughing their heads off.
I'm not hating this idea
Injuries aside, I don't understand people not rating him. Every time he plays we move the ball quicker, faster and with more purpose because of the energy and urgency he brings to our play.
Players that can pass it around are massively under appreciated by a growing army of fans who only seem to want to see a player lose possession after trying their 27th unnecessary stepover of the game because Youtube and TikTok reels have told them that's what a good footballer does.
Ineffective and giving the ball away because of unnecessary stepovers being repurposed as "looked dangerous" is killing football. Horrific injury record but lad can pass the ball and doesn't play like he's sponsored by YouTube shorts. Though he hasn't finished, his timing of runs into the box in the few games his played is better than we've seen from midfielder or striker for years.
Maybe he needs to go out wide and fail to beat the first man two dozen times before people will rate him
Players that can pass it around are massively under appreciated by a growing army of fans who only seem to want to see a player lose possession after trying their 27th unnecessary stepover of the game because Youtube and TikTok reels have told them that's what a good footballer does.
Ineffective and giving the ball away because of unnecessary stepovers being repurposed as "looked dangerous" is killing football. Horrific injury record but lad can pass the ball and doesn't play like he's sponsored by YouTube shorts. Though he hasn't finished, his timing of runs into the box in the few games his played is better than we've seen from midfielder or striker for years.
Maybe he needs to go out wide and fail to beat the first man two dozen times before people will rate him
Lots of confirmation bias in here - a lot of you despise him for being bought in the first place and then being injured for so long. Unfortunately, it’s making for irrational, unforgiving posts - he is working his way back to functional form, but many aren’t giving him the grace to do that, as if he should be match sharp straight out the traps, which is stupid as the vast majority of players returning to fitness need time to get back to their best.
A lot of posts here have little to do with what happened last game and are a run-on theme from when he was injured or even when he joined, or, the fact he wears #7, or the combination of all three. Feels like Mount won’t be given a fair crack to make an impression because minds are made up, and some actually don’t want him to succeed as then they’ll need to change their narrative of the last couple of seasons.
Moaning about what’s gone is a tired and worn endeavour; at least give him a slate that is rational and in accordance with what other players returning from injury get.
A lot of posts here have little to do with what happened last game and are a run-on theme from when he was injured or even when he joined, or, the fact he wears #7, or the combination of all three. Feels like Mount won’t be given a fair crack to make an impression because minds are made up, and some actually don’t want him to succeed as then they’ll need to change their narrative of the last couple of seasons.
Moaning about what’s gone is a tired and worn endeavour; at least give him a slate that is rational and in accordance with what other players returning from injury get.
Its all true but the only way it will stop is if he will start playing anywhere near where he did for Chelsea and proves people wrong
He’s just a body on the field, but always basically anonymous. Only ever so slightly less useless than Hojlund.
He is probably the worst signing we’ve made, as at least Antony will fetch us a fee…
He is probably the worst signing we’ve made, as at least Antony will fetch us a fee…
Alright gramps back in your day he'd be a proper footballer right? Has nothing to do with highlight reels or step overs. It's more the fact when he's on the pitch (which is rare) he's basically done nothing for his entire United tenure. Looked better yesterday and hopefully that's just a glimpse of more to come but for now he's been a utter waste of £50m+ and 200k+ a week
You're not getting a good fee for a player with that injury record
Eth has done damage that will take years to fix. And the club is culpable for letting it happen. Hopefully we never let such madness happen again.
Can't remember a single game which he stood out. Can only remember being frustrated with him.
His performances were predicted by many prior to signing him. As weird as it sounds, I knew we were screwed under ETH the minute he desperately wanted to sign Mount and gave him the 7 shirt. That told us that we would not be seeing any exciting, talented attackers join in the near future.
He should, at best, be a complete squad man next season and replaced in the club's thinking. There has never been anything exciting about Mason Mount, he is decent but such an uninspiring footballer. At least he's Premier League proven though, eh?
He should, at best, be a complete squad man next season and replaced in the club's thinking. There has never been anything exciting about Mason Mount, he is decent but such an uninspiring footballer. At least he's Premier League proven though, eh?
This is my main issue. Every shite signing in the past has at least had a game or two where they showed something.
Hojlund has had a lot of stick but his performance against Galatasaray at OT last season was world class. Can’t forget Memphis against the Danish side. Even Antony has had games where he was really top class.
We’re approaching the end of his second season and Mount doesn’t have a single performance better than a 7/10 and that’s being generous. Even the game he scored his only goal for us which we thought would be a stoppage time winner, we went and conceded in the very last second so he doesn’t even have that to fall back on.
He has been here for 2 years, the only reason he is not laughed at as much as Antony (who has done tens folds more than him) is because he hides behind "he is coming back from an injury".
He need to be sold in the summer regardless of what he does in the remaining 5 matches.
I don’t think it’s all confirmation bias. We’re talking about a player who is an off the ball, high energy, counter presser and distance coverer — it may be pessimistic but completely fair to acknowledge that it’s probably unlikely his body can continue to play in his usual style without breaking down again*.
And then, more worryingly, there’s nothing to his game to suggest he can reinvent his game — his strengths are all silent domination watch this OPTA vid to catch the nuances in his game style — the elephant in the room is going to be what does he actually offer if his main strengths have gone?
* and even this is questionable as to whether the juice is worth the squeeze there. Personally I don’t think so but I’m so personally diametrically opposed to these types of player anyway.
Hiding? I was baffled by us paying what we did for him and I’m not particularly enamoured by the player, but the notion of someone who was of such standing when he got here hiding is monumentally daft - there’s no way Mount wants the career and stigma he currently has, and he’s not trying to “Bogarde” the club, and someone who was riding high is not going to want the current rapport he has with portions of the fanbase.
Playing back to form after a long time out is a fact for the vast majority of footballers; what fans think to the contrary is irrational, biased nonsense attached to whatever preconceived notion they have towards that particular player. Like the player or are neutral towards them? Tis fine, give them the grace period. Dislike or “hate” them? Then they’re a tyrant stealing a living, or whatever the preconception is.
Mount’s likely to get a run out and a fair period of time for assessment before a decision is made on his future. He’ll be here for at least another season, I would wager.
Wonder if he’ll start next week in the League. For him to make any impact in the Europa League you feel he needs minutes to get some match fitness.
You can predict responses to his game time before a ball has been kicked in some instances. That’s a chore to scroll past especially so because it doesn’t have to correlate with what he actually does on the pitch.
I don’t believe he can actually do what he’s made his name off of, personally and have stated such many a time because playing the way he did isn’t sustainable for a lot of players and he’s probably already succumbed to it as it is, but what I will do is give him the good grace to prove to the contrary, which I think it’s clear many won’t and then this thread becomes an echo chamber of heightened annoyance that is not attached to the game he’s played in particular.
Should we pay his wages while he's on loan? Probably not. Would any club take him even on a free, given his wages? Probably not.
We're not a club that currently overflows with talent and, if reports are to be believed, we're not overflowing with funds available for transfer activityeither. We need to spend on a striker, pure and simple, and probably two and not just one wingback. Some would say a keeper as well, and although I would like to see Onana replaced I just don't see how we gather the funds to do all of that.
Mount needs a solid season of work under his belt to attain any market value, but without a doubt if there's a club willing to take on his wages we should commence talks with that club immediately. However, it seems unlikely that any such club exists.
He's only going to fail more here, he's not going to magically come good. He's shown he's a total nothing player under two managers now. It's time to cut our losses. It's funny how fans will go on avout ruthlessly gutting entire squads, except for when it comes to a player they have an irrational soft spot for. It happened with VdB, it's now happening with Mount.
If a time machine were to be invented, I would go back in time and make sure that we did not waste 60m and his wages on Mason Mount. But such a device has not yet been invented and thus here we are. If we can find a club to buy or even take him on a free, let's sign that deal with that club. If we could find a club willing to take him on loan and pay his wages, let's bite their hand off or however that daft saying goes.
But what we don't want to do is to pay Mount's wages while he's on loan with another club. That would be a brain dead move.
It looks like Mount's contract ends at the end of the 27-28 season. As a squad man, he can contribute to United here and there. I don't see him starting over any of Bruno, Ugarte, and Amad. And between Casemiro and Mount, it has to be Casemiro every time. But Casemiro may be the one to go a Saudi club or maybe an MLS club, as he has more star power than the former Chelsea man. But if your point is simply that Mount would go away, I completely get the sentiment. This is a deal that should never have gotten done and it's still not clear to me why this deal got done. That said, I have nothing against Mount personally as he comes off as a decent professional and a good guy.
Amen.
Nobody is saying he's been spectacular. The issue for me is how under appreciated players with that skill set are these days. A player that works as a link in the transitioning between defence and attack, whose job it is to ensure the ball is kept moving at pace.
Whenever he comes on he significantly quickens up play. Yet because there isn't a YouTube reel clip that can be extracted from that, the consensus is "didn't do much". And always will be, because unless you score or maybe get an assist, you're not doing anything. We see same with Mainoo. If he scores he's a 9/10. If he didn't, even if his involvement, passing, and other contributions were otherwise identical then the judgement he's he's "been quiet".
Everything is so binary. Scored? Played well. Didn't? Disappointing. Did nothing.
To my mind Mount is just an example of how unless someone is doing something that'll get shared over and over on a social media video - a large portion of fans will see absolutely no value in them.
Had that effort gone in and absolutely nothing else was changed about his game then 70% of comments here would have been about how pleasing it was that he got on score sheet and how lively he looked after coming on. Also think the fact the discussion defaults so quickly to his time out with injuries, the transfer fee or his shirt number show that many don't know how to assess a performance that isn't underpinned by an easily discernable stat like a goal or assist.
Whenever he comes on he significantly quickens up play. Yet because there isn't a YouTube reel clip that can be extracted from that, the consensus is "didn't do much". And always will be, because unless you score or maybe get an assist, you're not doing anything. We see same with Mainoo. If he scores he's a 9/10. If he didn't, even if his involvement, passing, and other contributions were otherwise identical then the judgement he's he's "been quiet".
Everything is so binary. Scored? Played well. Didn't? Disappointing. Did nothing.
To my mind Mount is just an example of how unless someone is doing something that'll get shared over and over on a social media video - a large portion of fans will see absolutely no value in them.
Had that effort gone in and absolutely nothing else was changed about his game then 70% of comments here would have been about how pleasing it was that he got on score sheet and how lively he looked after coming on. Also think the fact the discussion defaults so quickly to his time out with injuries, the transfer fee or his shirt number show that many don't know how to assess a performance that isn't underpinned by an easily discernable stat like a goal or assist.
I just watched a YouTube of a guy saying how under-rated Keane is nowadays, as lots of people only know the angry pundit, not the footballer. The guy was saying that what Keane did was play the ball forward, and he dictated the pace of the game, opened up the pitch for other players and was absolutely brilliant -- but I also got from the video that a lot of what Keane did was quick, and looked simple, whilst being brilliant.
We have our next silent domination player. He hasn't been crap in his cameos, most have recognised that his cameos are decent.
However it is not enough if he's to be Bruno's replacement or one of the 3 attacking players that we rely on for consistent goal contributions.
Barely enough to be a squad player, which is what Garnacho will be next season if he stays, and he offers so much more than Mason.
However it is not enough if he's to be Bruno's replacement or one of the 3 attacking players that we rely on for consistent goal contributions.
Barely enough to be a squad player, which is what Garnacho will be next season if he stays, and he offers so much more than Mason.
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I don't know what's the point with him, if we wanted goals from an attacking midfielder, then we should have kept Mctominay who is a far better player.
I actively dislike him. He's expensive in a grotesque, insulting way. He hasn't been available, and he doesn't actually do anything when he is playing. He doesn't score, he doesn't assist, he's not an amazing passer and doesn't elevate us when he is on the pitch.
There’s not much we can do about the transfer fee and wages, but as for his performance today he put in a few quality minutes.