[Irwin99]

He needs to be fecked off then

Well we do have about 5 other players for that one position now.

 

[#07]

Mount clearly has something but if I was asked I couldn't give you a clear account of it. He was dreadful tonight.

 

[edgecutter]

Mount clearly has something but if I was asked I couldn't give you a clear account of it. He was dreadful tonight.

He keeps the club doctor and physio in a job.

 

[Oranges038]

Definitely not a right winger.

 

[GlazersHater]

Now after we have abandoned Amorim's system we come back to the same issue we had with Mount under ten Hag. He doesn't really fit anywhere.

He's a tidy player, composed but not creative enough to play in Bruno's position, doesn't have the speed or trickery to play as a winger and surely can't play as a midfielder.

It wasn't as he was setting the world alight as a 10 under Amorim, but he'll be one of the biggest losers along with Lisandro from changing formation.

I doubt we can sell him at this point, must be on big wages, his status is on the floor and has became really injury prone. This is one of those cases that we'll have to keep him until his contract expires.

 

[edgecutter]

Now after we have abandoned Amorim's system we come back to the same issue we had with Mount under ten Hag. He doesn't really fit anywhere.

He's a tidy player, composed but not creative enough to play in Bruno's position, doesn't have the speed or trickery to play as a winger and surely can't play as a midfielder.

It wasn't as he was setting the world alight as a 10 under Amorim, but he'll be one of the biggest losers along with Lisandro from changing formation.

I doubt we can sell him at this point, must be on big wages, his status is on the floor and has became really injury prone. This is one of those cases that we'll have to keep him until his contract expires.

250k a week.

 

[GlazersHater]

250k a week.

Yeah no club is going to be willing to pay even half of that for him. Only top 6 clubs can afford it and they wouldn't touch him with a stick, considering outside of the top 6 the best paid players earn around 100-120k I'd say we'd be lucky to get someone willing to cover about 30% of his wages.

 

[RedEarth]

Does anyone know what Mason Mount's job description actually is? Dalot and Cunha were terrible but at least they got involved and made runs. Mount has magically found this hole in the pitch that he stands in. 10 yards from the winger's position, 10 yards from #10, 10 yards from CM and 10 yards from the striker's... and nobody can see him there, so they don't pass to him.

He's basically a fkn skiver. Lacey came on and in 3 mins had contributed more than CL winning, Euros Final-playing Mount. It continually amazes me how little he offers as an attacking player.

 

[El Jefe]

Back to normal Mount. Looks like the only role he’s any good at is what he had under Amorim and he’s nowhere near good enough to change a system for.

If he doesn’t show he has a role by the end of the season he should be sold. He’s been back to being a ghost in his last two games.

 

[Bwuk]

Back to normal Mount. Looks like the only role he’s any good at is what he had under Amorim and he’s nowhere near good enough to change a system for.

If he doesn’t show he has a role by the end of the season he should be sold. He’s been back to being a ghost in his last two games.

No-one will buy him on the wages he's on. He'll be here till his contracts up in 2028.

I think we should try him in midfield. He's a decent passer of the ball. He couldn't do any worse than Mainoo or Ugarte.

 

[Cnaiür urs Skiötha]

He has a bad game while we are practically without a manager and everybody is jumping at him again. No matter what formation we are going to play we need more players with his attributes. Good movement, very good on the ball, an eye for a pass, keeping things quick and simple.

 

[VP89]

He has a bad game while we are practically without a manager and everybody is jumping at him again. No matter what formation we are going to play we need more players with his attributes. Good movement, very good on the ball, an eye for a pass, keeping things quick and simple.

There's a lot of blood lust for him

 

[Fahad Jawaid]

Was really disappointed by his performances recently since he came back against Wolves and Brighton. Against Wolves we were on top with Bruno and he was running the show, once he came off, i expected him to dominate the game in his best position in a similar manner, but he was not involved at all or never looked threatening. Same was the case with Brighton, he looked to be hiding somewhere, Dalot had more involvements in the half than him, although the less said about his decision making the better. But you can not have a manutd player who is hiding.

For all the grief Bruno gets from supporters etc, he is clearly two levels above Mount in everything. Now with the change in formation, his deficiencies will be further exposed, we may have to make a decision on him this summer.

 

[Doracle]

He has a bad game while we are practically without a manager and everybody is jumping at him again. No matter what formation we are going to play we need more players with his attributes. Good movement, very good on the ball, an eye for a pass, keeping things quick and simple.

But he doesn’t do that stuff consistently. His performance at the weekend was a very typical performance for Mason in a match where we really needed him.

In twice the time on the pitch, he managed to touch the ball only 8 more times than the 18 year old who replaced him. 30 touches compared to Bruno’s over 100 (or 65 or so prorated). It’s simply not good enough. He has to find a way to get involved.

 

[Brazilian_Ronaldo_9]

But he doesn’t do that stuff consistently. His performance at the weekend was a very typical performance for Mason in a match where we really needed him.

In twice the time on the pitch, he managed to touch the ball only 8 more times than the 18 year old who replaced him. 30 touches compared to Bruno’s over 100 (or 65 or so prorated). It’s simply not good enough. He has to find a way to get involved.

He’s a player who thrives in a specific system, his best football came under Amorim when we were pressing high. He actually looked like the old Mount where he could turn nothing into an attack.

However now that’s been abandoned, he will struggle as we use wingers which he isn’t. He will always struggle playing on the wing.

We will have to wait and see in the summer which manager we are getting.

 

[Frank White]

This is his 3rd year right and he's had about as many good games in that time. Should be one of the 1st one out the door when the new manager comes in.

 

[Woziak]

I genuinely think we can’t let him and Bruno go so if he goes we would need to keep Bruno, Cunha doesn’t fill me with too much faith as the main 10, he’s too selfish!

However Mount needs to have a stellar end to this season to get one more year?

 

[bosnian_red]

I genuinely think we can’t let him and Bruno go so if he goes we would need to keep Bruno, Cunha doesn’t fill me with too much faith as the main 10, he’s too selfish!

However Mount needs to have a stellar end to this season to get one more year?

We need to do all we can go keep Bruno anyway as we're going to a 433/4231.

Mount isn't close to good enough to be a 10 in that. You need to get a ton of creativity behind him if you're actively throwing away that position from a creativity POV.

 

[ItDoesntEvenMata]

Does anyone know what Mason Mount's job description actually is? Dalot and Cunha were terrible but at least they got involved and made runs. Mount has magically found this hole in the pitch that he stands in. 10 yards from the winger's position, 10 yards from #10, 10 yards from CM and 10 yards from the striker's... and nobody can see him there, so they don't pass to him.

He's basically a fkn skiver. Lacey came on and in 3 mins had contributed more than CL winning, Euros Final-playing Mount. It continually amazes me how little he offers as an attacking player.

Mount to be fair had to spend half his game filling for the spaces that Dalot was leaving

 

[Woziak]

We need to do all we can go keep Bruno anyway as we're going to a 433/4231.

Mount isn't close to good enough to be a 10 in that. You need to get a ton of creativity behind him if you're actively throwing away that position from a creativity POV.

Agreed we need to keep Bruno if we sell Mount, he’s still our best player by some distance.

 

[lex talionis]

The man is a jack of all trades and a master of none. We need a few such players, but unfortunately in his case the cost is 250k/week. The idea behind bringing in Mount was never fully baked and we're stuck with a player who's really too good to be a super sub but at the same doesn't have a starting role as long as Bruno is on the payroll.

 

[bosnian_red]

Agreed we need to keep Bruno if we sell Mount, he’s still our best player by some distance.

Mount is irrelevant to any squad planning. If we sell Bruno we need a new creative midfielder, even if Mount stays. Mount isn't good enough to be a starter.

 

[Marwood]

Don't really understand why he couldn't do what Lacey did.

Just keep the width, work a yard and put the ball in(we know he can cross a ball).

Simple football.

Especially with Dalot drifting inside so much.

 

[Irwin99]

There’s a good player there but he seems to thrive in that 10 role and we arguably already have better choices for that position.

 

[AndySmith1990]

He's a bit of a nothing player. Just a lot of meh. One of our big problems with the squad really, too many players who are mediocre at everything. Zirkzee, Mount, Mainoo, Ugarte, Dalot...

 

[RedDevil [NC]]

Really should be sold in the summer

He's a bit of a nothing player. Just a lot of meh. One of our big problems with the squad really, too many players who are mediocre at everything. Zirkzee, Mount, Mainoo, Ugarte, Dalot...

He has good qualities but he’s just so slow off the ball and somehow far slower on the ball. He needs time on the ball but this team doesn’t afford him that little extra to make something happen. He really should be shipped out in the summer to make room for others but the same could be said about majority of this squad.

 

[RedEarth]

Mount to be fair had to spend half his game filling for the spaces that Dalot was leaving

Nah, you're looking at that the wrong way around. Dalot HAS to make such runs into the box from a way out because Mount doesn't do it. Just watch him playing up top next time out. He doesn't run in behind, and he rarely shows to make an easy 5-yard pass for whoever has the ball. He hides! He doesn't help out Dalot at all, nor the 10 or CBs or CMs. This is how he has become invisible and manages about 4 touches per half.

A definite Top 10er in our Worst Signings of All Time list, and for me Top 5 as I knew on signing that he would offer nowt at all, even if he'd been fit. He's the only player that we've had that could be playing and you'd still think he was out injured.

 

[The Hilton]

He's not a winger, and trying to play him as one was always going to result in the nothing performance we saw against Brighton, especially with such a disjointed press. He can work in that system by tucking in more centrally, if he's supported by a top fullback who can get up and down the pitch, and has the trickery of a winger, but Dalot is nowhere near that.

Mount's strongest attributes are off the ball, he's very intelligent in terms of positioning etc and leads the press really well, but that's no good if there isn't a coherent press to lead. Fletcher's rather old school approach doesn't suit him at all, hopefully Carrick can find a way to use him or he'll be a passenger until the end of the season.

 

[Onerealunited]

He is english there would obviously be any good bidders for him if we should want to sell him - i think in many team settings he would even be a good player! Get rid of him and recoup whatever we can and use the cash to put into the midfield budget!!!

 

[Kostov]

Can we finally accept that he has been an absolute disastrous signing considering the cost and circumstances? Now let him leave and pay 180k a week for him to play for Everton or something.

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

I think there might be a market for him if we were to sell. But clearly we would take a big loss on him.

I didn’t rate him as a transfer. But almost think we are better off keeping him, if he can keep reasonably fit. He does have some good qualities - but not relative to the price we paid.

 

[Red in STL]

Don't really understand why he couldn't do what Lacey did.

Just keep the width, work a yard and put the ball in(we know he can cross a ball).

Simple football.

Especially with Dalot drifting inside so much.

That would have required him to abandon the needed defensive cover for Dalot and we know the consequences of that happening

 

[Apokalips]

Mount is irrelevant to any squad planning. If we sell Bruno we need a new creative midfielder, even if Mount stays. Mount isn't good enough to be a starter.

100% Mount is irrelevant to Bruno's future and should not be a starter, let alone our number 7. He is a squad player like a Madueke/Trossard. Although they are probably more useful players, to be honest.

 

[Frank White]

I think there might be a market for him if we were to sell. But clearly we would take a big loss on him.

I didn’t rate him as a transfer. But almost think we are better off keeping him, if he can keep reasonably fit. He does have some good qualities - but not relative to the price we paid.

Or the weekly wage he's some how manager to con out of us. £250k p/w for next to no return in 3 years is impressive for even us.

 

[OL29]

He's not a winger, and trying to play him as one was always going to result in the nothing performance we saw against Brighton, especially with such a disjointed press. He can work in that system by tucking in more centrally, if he's supported by a top fullback who can get up and down the pitch, and has the trickery of a winger, but Dalot is nowhere near that.

Mount's strongest attributes are off the ball, he's very intelligent in terms of positioning etc and leads the press really well, but that's no good if there isn't a coherent press to lead. Fletcher's rather old school approach doesn't suit him at all, hopefully Carrick can find a way to use him or he'll be a passenger until the end of the season.

I’m sorry but this is a really generous analysis of Mount, it basically says that if he’s set up in perfect conditions and someone does all his work for him in an attacking sense then he can be a useful option. Even if we were to set up like that, is Mount’s output really good enough?
I thought one of his main selling points was meant to be his versatility but it’s pointless if he needs such a particular set up.

 

[The Hilton]

I’m sorry but this is a really generous analysis of Mount, it basically says that if he’s set up in perfect conditions and someone does all his work for him in an attacking sense then he can be a useful option. Even if we were to set up like that, is Mount’s output really good enough?
I thought one of his main selling points was meant to be his versatility but it’s pointless if he needs such a particular set up.

That isn't what it says at all, you've built a strawman. What I'm saying is that there's no place for him in a system that requires wingers to stay wide and stretch things, as that isn't his game. You also lose a great deal of benefit from him if you aren't pressing, as he's very smart out of possession.

He is versatile, but that doesn't mean playing any position, we still have to cater to his strengths, rather than his weaknesses, to get good performances out of him. The same as with any player.

 

[RuudTom83]

He can't stay fit, so any headache he could potentially create for any manager is only ever going to be temporary, as 2 games later he will be back on the side lines nursing his latest next knock and strain.

 

[AneRu]

I think there might be a market for him if we were to sell. But clearly we would take a big loss on him.

I didn’t rate him as a transfer. But almost think we are better off keeping him, if he can keep reasonably fit. He does have some good qualities - but not relative to the price we paid.

I think his fitness record will discourage any potential suitors, with a better fitness record I reckon someone like Everton, West Ham or anyone of that ilk would be interested. The wages due to him will be a hindrance so the only way out is use him as cover until he wants out on his own.

 

[horsechoker]

Anyone know why exactly his goal was chalked off?

So little discussion by sky for a goal that come season's end could decide the title race.

 

[Poborsky's hair]

Anyone know why exactly his goal was chalked off?

So little discussion by sky for a goal that come season's end could decide the title race.

I was very pissed off, they didnt show anything as to why or when it was offside? COuld have been a different story for media. We deserved to win much higher. And from "demolition" story it's just a decent 2:0 win.