So happy for him.
Mason Mount: Rehash the same post again and again
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He's a curious case. Earning far too much money, we massively overspent on getting him in, should not wear the #7 shirt, but he's also a very good player and coaches love him. The biggest problem is obviously the non-stop injuries. It's a rubbish source (Football Insider) but he's being linked to Villa. We'll probably see more players linked purely because of the Martinez situation so some manufactured stuff most likely.
Anyhow, I've considered him as an impossible sale this summer purely because of his injury record in the last couple of seasons. If he could stay fit I think he'd be a very useful player to have, but also, if there was a team interested in actually buying him I'd sell him in an instant.
Anyhow, I've considered him as an impossible sale this summer purely because of his injury record in the last couple of seasons. If he could stay fit I think he'd be a very useful player to have, but also, if there was a team interested in actually buying him I'd sell him in an instant.
Whenever I see this thread bumped, I'm expecting to see that he's picked up yet another injury and will be out another 3-4 months minimum.
Seeing him and the great Shawberto move on would give me as much joy as seeing the back of Sancho for some money.
Same. I was fully expecting "Mount out for 6 weeks sipping a soda in Mykonos" when I saw this thread on the front page.
The guy from The United Muppetiers (who likes to pretend he is IKN) said that at least two PL clubs have called re a potential Mount transfer.
Though refused to name the clubs until he could "double check the clubs with his source".
Though refused to name the clubs until he could "double check the clubs with his source".
Funny you should say that as United Central had a report up the other day saying Villa are interested in him.
He clearly does have some sources. He would post news during the takeover saga slightly before reputable journalists
It will be a loan offer. It's of no use to us.
He's the modern day Premier League systems player - runs like crazy, follows instructions, is tactically astute, a bit of an all rounder and has a bit of quality about him.
"he was just following orders"
Yes I read something about Villa being interested earlier. Not sure if any truth in it.
250k a week off the wage bill. Yes please.
The sort of clubs he could attract I doubt could even pay his full wages on a loan deal.
You might expect that with one game a week then 13m off the wage bill wouldn't hurt
I‘ve lost all respect and sympathy for him as he just drains the club of millions and millions of wages while not providing anything. Should be an office guy or something and even there he‘d get injured on the elevator
But let's face it, the main thing is he isn't really that good. A bit of a nothing player with some technical ability. This was never a good signing - can't envisage Mount turning this around in any scenario.
He had one really good game this season
Offered more than usual then
Offered more than usual then
What a zinger.
Surprised they didn't give him a new contract extension & a massive wage increase off the back of that one game.
He's likeable but he needs to try and not be so invisible and take his chances more. If he was to never play for us again I don't think anyone would even notice. he's a bit of a lost fart in the wind sadly.
What is his outstanding quality on the ball?
His off the ball quality is great, but what real threat does he pose the opposition on it?
His off the ball quality is great, but what real threat does he pose the opposition on it?
Tbf he was excellent for Chelsea in both 20/21 and 21/22.
Injuries have ruined him, sadly.
Be thankful Woodward and the other Glazer cronies are no longer here, as that's exactly what would have happened.Surprised they didn't give him a new contract extension & a massive wage increase off the back of that one game.
At this rate, we are better off just selling him for £20m and getting his wages off the books, which is circa £12.5m/year
Nobody is paying 20m to us and taking on his 250k a week. THE crippling issue with our entire transfer business is that our players do have value, but the clubs that would want them can’t pay the agronomical wages, which put us in a position where we end up having to pay players off which means we let them go for free essentially which hurts us on ffp, or they refuse to go and “fight for their place” which hurts our cash flow.
Mount, sancho, rashford, Anthony, onana, shaw, Casemiro and previously Maguire are all players that on a fifa save, the club would sell for whatever the market rate was, save the wages and generate transfer funds. We can’t do that in the real world until we have a sensible wage structure.
He has a good first touch and is strong on the ball, as in not easily knocked off it and his retention is generally good - I don't particularly rate him though and never have....
Mount is a system player who helps systems work well. This is why managers tend to like him, but why its a bit harder for fans to really appreciate him. He won't often settle a match, but he can certainly help the team win.
The problem is of course that, even if he were fit and playing, if the system isn't working - whether or not its his fault - his contribution ends up being unremarkable or even pointless. His ability to, say, make awkward little runs to drag defenders out, or play nice triangles with team mates near the box, is pretty thin gruel when you're 3-0 down already and being dominated.
At United the fact that we've been so bad for so long means that players who can score a banger from nowhere are more valuable than system players, because that gives you a fighting chance at least. We've not had a smooth running system in our team for years now.
Personally I would sell him for a halfway decent offer, but his injury record makes that option kind of moot anyway. So what we have to hope is that the team settles this season down this season and we see a working system in use, not just a team hoping for a moment, at which point Mount might be able to offer something useful.
The problem is of course that, even if he were fit and playing, if the system isn't working - whether or not its his fault - his contribution ends up being unremarkable or even pointless. His ability to, say, make awkward little runs to drag defenders out, or play nice triangles with team mates near the box, is pretty thin gruel when you're 3-0 down already and being dominated.
At United the fact that we've been so bad for so long means that players who can score a banger from nowhere are more valuable than system players, because that gives you a fighting chance at least. We've not had a smooth running system in our team for years now.
Personally I would sell him for a halfway decent offer, but his injury record makes that option kind of moot anyway. So what we have to hope is that the team settles this season down this season and we see a working system in use, not just a team hoping for a moment, at which point Mount might be able to offer something useful.
How hard can it be to check your sauce when it’s yourself.
Our first manager that liked him got sacked because he was dreadful. One year too late. The second one that likes him should have been sacked also, but same like ETH survived based on feck all. Mount being a "system" player seems awfully weak excuse of being a nothing player earning 250k a week.
Not even sure what point you're making. If a manager is poor, any player he likes must also be poor? That feels like a very easily disproved argument.
Exactly. He makes up the stories.
And people credit him when he gets a couple of things right.
You talk enough shite that eventually some of it comes to pass.
If said managers are failures what significance their liking of Mount has? Besides being “liked” he’s been absolutely disastrous signing two years in.
I never said managers liked him and this means he's good. My post isnt even about him being good, I'm talking about his style of play and what needs to happen to get anything good out of him. If you want to carry on discussing this, please go back and reread it and then respond to what I wrote & Ill happily continue.
Garnacho has been pretty pants for us apart from 30 minutes yesterday. Still, he's equalled Mason Mount's PL goals/assists total in a few months.
How many PL minutes (and more importantly: starts) does Mount have though? They are also different player types. Garnacho is a pacy winger who likes to dribble and shoot, whereas Mount is more of an all-rounder who tends to play AM.
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I looked over the stats myself. In the PL he has just below 1500 minutes played for us. And he's been in the starting lineup 18 times.
3 G/A is of course not good enough for an AM in that time span, but it's not that shocking when you consider how bad we've been in that period. Particularly in attack.
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Your post is reflective of Mason Mount.. confusing. This is all about Mason Mount: what does he want to do with his career?
He is ineffective. Completely. Look at Bruno. Maguire. Cunha. Mboma. Amad. Lammens. De Ligt. Casimero.
All these players are having a positive impact..not perfect or brilliant by any means, but at least they are being effective.
Now consider Mason Mount???
He needs to show some guts and make himself an effective, indispensable member of this squad. Currently, I have no idea what he is doing. Show some character, demand your place and earn it. Mainoo, Zirkzee should adopt exactly the same attitude. This is Manchester United ffs.
thanks mboma.
This would have been true in the past, but it's a bit of a strange post considering Mount has been quite good and effective this season. Other than Mbeumo (and Amad if you count him as an attacker) he's been our best attacker so far. He's been better than Cunha on average, who has had a couple of very good performances but has mostly been average-to-poor.
It's been a bit strange that Amorim has given Mount so few minutes the last couple of games, unless he's had a small knock. Not only has he been doing fairly well on the individual level, but the team as a whole generally looks better when he's been playing.
Mboma was class on Iss Pro on psx 1 to be fair. Beast.