A creative midfielder who can’t create. Chelsea have tried him in virtually every position you can across the midfield and wings and he still underperforms. No thanks.
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The main point is Berghuis is technically superior. No matter the league....
Berghuis was a winger before. Plus is more technically gifted on the ball. I wouldn't even say Mount isn't as agile. He just isn't as gifted technically
he'd suit Klopp football imho. He is a work horse of the ball. Is intelligent tactically and is a consistent goal threat and has a decent eye for assists. He'd never be required to run games in a Klopp midfield. Same with a Conte. As was with Tuchel. He'd be excellent in that kind of collective.
Don't get me wrong. I don't believe Berghuis a better player than Mount,
Just a much better ETH football type player.
I don't agree either with all "he is a nothing player" claims too. I'm certain Mount will have the better career. Especially if he plays for a coach whose football suits him.
Can see Liverpool going for him to combine with Bajcetic and maybe Bellingham in a remodelled midfield.
It's funny when we all spunk about Macallister at Brighton and ridicule Mount (I myself am guilty) but when we think about it, at their best, they do pretty much the same thing.
Whilst he has been terrible this season, he has done much better for Chelsea than people are making out. I wouldn't particularly want him, but people can go way over the top with criticism:
In 21/22, he was Chelsea's top scorer and assister - He had 21 goal contributions in 32 games in the PL, (29 goal contributions in 53 total games). The PL stat is only 2 off of what De Bruyne ended with; there is no doubt he was one of Chelsea's better players last season.
I think he could be a very good player still for another Premier League side.
In 21/22, he was Chelsea's top scorer and assister - He had 21 goal contributions in 32 games in the PL, (29 goal contributions in 53 total games). The PL stat is only 2 off of what De Bruyne ended with; there is no doubt he was one of Chelsea's better players last season.
I think he could be a very good player still for another Premier League side.
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A poor man’s Lingard. No thanks.
Everybody is shite for Chelsea these days. Mount is a very decent player, would do well for Arsenal or Liverpool.
Have you really watched Macallister? Him and Mount play completely different positions.
Mount at his most successful was an inside forward in that weird Tuchel setup. He's crap in any sort of true midfield role
Both are good players in sides with already competent midfielders. They aren’t playmakers or defenders. They run around a lot and pop up with goals and assists and complement the other midfielders that specialise in other formats. Kind of like Henderson. They don’t have any real stand out qualities but are a jack of all trade type player. Thats how I view them both.
Except he's ready to be the type of player that starts the odd cup game or comes on when the team is ahead and better players need to be rested, I don't see the point. Heaven forbid he's purchased with the aim of being a starter here.
Except Macallister is actually a central midfielder in the same mould as Eriksen or someone else that links defense and attack. Mount isn't close to that. Mount also isn't remotely similar to Henderson. Again have you watched him?
I've already made the comparison earlier in the thread but Mounts best blueprint is a younger Jessie Lingard when he was decent. I think Mount is a bit better than Lingard, but their styles are similar and both ran into the same issue of not being good enough of a creator to be a 10, but aren't dangerous enough as a forward either.
Could be Liverpool bound? Chamberlain's contract expires in the summer - doubt they'll extend it since he's been awful.
He’s not good enough for us but will probably fit in ok at Liverpool.
fecks sake
it’s only February but this will be post of the year and also completely fecking right as well.Fantastic footballer, Boehly needs to be offering a 7 year contract minimum, 300k a week should do it but make it 350k just to be sure.
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Yeah, that’s my opinion on where Mount can be utilised best. As a third midfielder who complements the others.
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I sense somebody’s angling for a big contract renewal from Todd 
Captain average.
Oh yeah i forgot Bellingham was going there.
He's absolute dogshit. Belongs in the Championship.
Gareth Southgate and Lampard love him though because run round like headless chicken and is English.
Lingard genuinely has more talent than him.
Gareth Southgate and Lampard love him though because run round like headless chicken and is English.
Lingard genuinely has more talent than him.
Feck off, just snorted my drink at work.
He's been pretty poor whenever I've seen him play this season. I didn't see the Southampton game but the below stats are pretty damming,
Mason Mount was 0% on his ground duel battles (0/6), tackles attempted (0/1), successful take-ons (0/2) and accurate crosses (0/1). Kepa Arrizabalaga completed more passes (14/14) than Mason Mount (5/9) for Chelsea against Southampton.
Mason Mount was 0% on his ground duel battles (0/6), tackles attempted (0/1), successful take-ons (0/2) and accurate crosses (0/1). Kepa Arrizabalaga completed more passes (14/14) than Mason Mount (5/9) for Chelsea against Southampton.
You just know that if he wasn't already a chelsea player and he came on the market Boehly would 100% do this.
Honest question, what does he do?
I am actuallyrelieved reading through this thread because I had thought I was completely missing something with this guy, because he's a chelsea and England regular, but I am happy to see most feel the same.
I am actuallyrelieved reading through this thread because I had thought I was completely missing something with this guy, because he's a chelsea and England regular, but I am happy to see most feel the same.
I don’t understand this link. I don’t see what he would add to our team or how ETH would get value from him on the pitch.
Mount is a decent player who is having a really bad season. I wouldn't want him at United because I don't think he offers anything we don't have already, but I do think there's a player in there. It's easy to see why contract talks with Chelsea have stalled if he's asking for £200k a week, mind.
Could take advantage of Boehly’s scattergun approach here.
I think he could be great cover for Bruno, would work hard and press. Could be a great a squad addition IMO
I think he could be great cover for Bruno, would work hard and press. Could be a great a squad addition IMO
Should do a poll. I reckon 85% of Redcafe users wouldn't want him.
I'm surprised some would not take him, Mason Mount is an excellent young player, v good football intelligence, consistent, good experience, technically reliable, carries a goal threat, good attitude and will continue to improve.
However, he isn't a passer-set the tempo-creative type of player, so it's how you get the best out of him...I think he needs a coach to help confirm his role. He needs responsibility and an on-field identity.
But I think he would be a great addition to the squad.
However, he isn't a passer-set the tempo-creative type of player, so it's how you get the best out of him...I think he needs a coach to help confirm his role. He needs responsibility and an on-field identity.
But I think he would be a great addition to the squad.
Mid table club player. Perfect for Chelsea.
Do you even want him?
He’s bang average.
Weghorst does Mounts job better than he does
He's not a bad player, he's just not special.
The sort of player who would do well in Germany or Spain but not come to the Prem normally, playing in like a 4-2-2-2 at Leipzig or something.
He'd be an improved version of DVB. I'm not sure that sort of a player adds value to our (current/intended) system of play?
Mason Mount? Of course.
Absolutely not. Delete this thread swiftly.
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