Mass Shooting in Christchurch, NZ Mosque | 14th March 2019

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    https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/03/14/as...ooting-intl/index.html?r=https://www.cnn.com/

    (CNN) — Police in the New Zealand city of Christchurch have urged people to stay off the streets as they respond to a reported mass shooting.

    Armed police have been deployed after receiving reports of shots fired in the city center at 1:40 p.m. Friday local time. Authorities described it as a "serious ongoing firearms incident."
    Police have not confirmed deaths or injuries yet.

    According to New Zealand news site TVNZ, the incident took place at a mosque.

    Video shared online and not verified by CNN purportedly shows a gunman walking into the mosque and opening fire.
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    VeevaVee despite the protests, wears Ugg boots Scout

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    The guy live streamed the whole thing. It's in the Reddit news thread. It's fecking mental and horrendous. Wasn't expecting that.
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    Carolina Red Moderator Staff

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    Holy shit. What the hell
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    Links got removed, but the description sounds horrifying.

    RIP the victims. Is islamophobia even a thing in NZ?
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    VeevaVee despite the protests, wears Ugg boots Scout

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    Sounds like he was a regular in an 8chan nazi community? Don't much know about 4chan/8chan.

    Video was the craziest thing I've ever seen. He treated it like a videogame.
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    Solius Bearded Scholes admirer Staff

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    :( f*cking hell man
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    Geez:(
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    berbatrick Full Member Scout

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    I think the wide variation of people who are pushing "subscribe to pewdiepie", is interesting. I have seen many say he is a symbol of the authentic independent internet unlike the corporate T-Series. And I have seen many say that it is important for the west to keep its status against an army of fast-breeding Indians who are overtaking them, and the youtube subscription battle, of all things, is a part of that.
    The shooter is a 8channer who obviously liked the humour of referencing this kids' meme before killing dozens. At the same time, I wouldn't be surprised if he has seen or has in his head that second argument too. And I think P's history, with the "gas the Jews" and the n-word on stream, has definitely endeared him to the right on the internet as an edgy free-speech guy and not just a juvenile kids' entertainer, which is another reason why the shooter referenced him when he was starting. His manifesto is about a murdered Swedish girl, and his gun has the 14 words and references to the crusades, I thought it was interesting that he ended up with Pewdiepie as his pep talk.

    A neat secondary thing, mostly a coincidence, and something I realised after I made the post, is that Ben Shapiro, who was an inspiration for a Canadian mosque shooter, is a guest of P and another involved in pushing that meme.

    Anyway I'm moving this to the main thread now.
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    Carolina Red Moderator Staff

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    I’ve found the 8chan conversation where he posted that he was about to attack. People literally wished him “godspeed”.

    fecking hell
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    VeevaVee despite the protests, wears Ugg boots Scout

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    ergh. I try and have faith in humans but the worst are just pure scum. If only someone would round these up and fire them into space.
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    Eboue nasty little twerp with crazy bitter-man opinions

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    how is 8chan different than 4chan?
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    Carolina Red Moderator Staff

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    No clue, but this 8chan thread is absolutely fecked up
    The thread has the video in it. :( Those poor people.
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    berbatrick Full Member Scout

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    i think they split over moderation policies about child porn, 4chan was suppressing free expression.
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    Carolina Red Moderator Staff

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    Actual quote from the chan thread...
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    VeevaVee despite the protests, wears Ugg boots Scout

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    Honestly, I said just yesterday on here that I think the internet is full of bitter people and getting worse. Imagine that combined with fecked beliefs and passionate hatred, and finding others that are the same. It's a breeding ground for more hate and egging each other on. That, and now a platform to show it to each other.
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    Imagine being too scummy for even 4chan. That's the sort of people who end up on 8chan.
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    Ian Reus Ended 14 years of Grand National sweepstakes

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    It's a growing movement worldwide, probably in response to the minority of Islamic extremism which gets airtime.
    RIP.
    I don't ever want to see that video so hopefully it's deleted for good.
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    From the comments on there, I’d have to agree with you. People literally rejoicing what that video showed. Unbelievable.

    I’ve said for at least a year now, I’m convinced that ultimately social media has done more harm than good.

    As a side note... you can get AR’s and hi capacity magazines in New Zealand?
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    berbatrick Full Member Scout

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    I spent time watching one of those boards before another shooting (can't remember which one) and it's just not healthy. You have to hope those guys aren't going to form a big mass, otherwise, like ISIS, everyone will be a victim of their nihlist violence.
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    VeevaVee despite the protests, wears Ugg boots Scout

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    And they feel empowered by Trump and others who've gathered steam. Someone from NZ in the Reddit news thread said, while it's a pretty quiet place, they noticed some come out the woodwork when Trump came in to power.

    It certainly gave a voice to racists in Britain who felt like they were being pushed down.

    Can only imagine it had the same effect on the hardcore too.
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    seems like the shooters (more than one!) took a leaf from Breivik plan. There are distractions in the form of car bomb in the city.
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    This is really fecked up :(. Casualties are high because they timed the shooting during Friday prayer, just after the imam finished the sermon :(.
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    VeevaVee despite the protests, wears Ugg boots Scout

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    Someone on Reddit said last time something happened the gun laws changed. I wonder if they'll want to be seen as proactive in comparison to the US and make them even more strict.
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    Jesus. I made a big mistake and watched the video of his live stream. Don't fecking do it. I feel sick, I think I'm going to throw up. What was I thinking? :houllier::(
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    Tragic.

    I don't understand the "subscribe to Pewdiepie" nonsense. Apparently the shooter said it as he cowardly gunned down innocent people.

    What the feck does it mean?
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    8chan has deleted the page now. I’d just sent the link in to CNN, too.
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    The whole stream is a fecking meme show. It's completely crazy and yeah it's all over 8chan and most people there seem to think it's hilarious. :houllier::mad:
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    I seen it too and it's fecking horrible.

    Innocent people being killed is obviously awful but there's a particularly gut wrenching moment as he exits the mosque that I don't think I'll forget any time soon.
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    I don't think New Zealand will just use thoughts and prayers, especially considering what Australia did about guns. It really likes to be a nice, friendly and safe place (though the laws restricting the buying of properties by foreigners aren't friendly).

    I read the shooter may be an Australian.
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    Pewdiepie is a YouTuber with most number of subscribers on YouTube currently in competition with an Indian Music brand TSeries who are hot on his heels for most subscribers . Pewdiepie has been encouraging the rest of his subscriber to get new people hence the subscribe to Pewdiepie reference to increase his subscriber count . This is truly a weird thing to say at that moment .

    About the incident it is very disturbing and horrible incident . I hope they catch the shooter and the accomplices . It is really heartbreaking to see all the encouragement he received before he started to go on this shooting spree . The anonymity of sitting behind a keyboard and typing their hearts out really show the true extent all the hate around us has reached .
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    He’s Australian according to his manifesto
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    I don't know much about this, but is there any time in history when total irony co-exists with total sincere violence like this? I can't think of anything. The subscribe to pdp at the start of the vid really stuck out to me partly for that reason.
    The crusaders he is inspired by, and ISIS today - both extremely violent, but did any of them talk feel the need to spread memes while murdering? Maybe some occupying armies who have total superiority over the locals could do something like this.
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    Carolina Red Moderator Staff

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    It’s like some people’s brains can’t handle the Internet. Everything is free for ridicule and they can’t separate real life from fake and lose empathy and go cold.

    Kids I teach are like that. Everything that happens is a goddamn meme to them.
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    Rest in peace to the victims :(

    New Zealand Herald reporting that the official number is more than 27 :(
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    The Nazis specialised in both, and particularly relished irony ('Arbeit macht frei' is just one example of many).
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    Carolina Red Moderator Staff

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    The Bangladeshi cricket team was right near that mosque when the attack started. Escaped across the square when they heard shots.
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    berbatrick Full Member Scout

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    Ya I should've thought of that one...
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    I visited 8chan. I'd never heard of it until now. It is literally a cesspool of racism and anger and rage and xenophobia and moral repugnance. It's like reading a KKK manifesto. People are genuinely rejoicing the coward's act and calling him a hero. And everything is a fecking meme. It's so tragically bizarre and repugnant.

    Incomprehensible. It's sad that human beings think and act this way. Sites like 8chan normalize and encourage such behaviour so it's likely only going to get worse.
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    KM I’m afraid I just blue myself Staff

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    Well I've just seen the screenshots of his post before he went on this shooting. It's very distressing.