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should really stop though as soon we are back to Fred and co.
 

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We've got absolutely trashed there, and rightly so — Mackay (I should've made his compilation as well) was outstanding, Greaves was equally great and generally that Spurs team was so resilient, aggressive and comfortable on the ball.

So, Jimmy Greaves stars as an inside forward, making 2 assists (and a few great passes, one was simply a genius one, a through-ball with an outside of his foot, that should've ended with a goal as well) and scoring a goal that reminded me of Kaka vs us in 2007, he went through entire United defense like a hot knife through butter.


@Šjor Bepo, I think you've said somewhere that you haven't seen him play well in actual games — you should give this one a watch.
 

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@Šjor Bepo, I think you've said somewhere that you haven't seen him play well in actual games — you should give this one a watch.
hmm doubt it, think it was someone else as i think i watched maybe 2 games of Greaves and IIRC he was pretty decent in it(made a compilation for him as well). One thing i know i said is that in both games i watched he didnt play as a striker as he is used in drafts, in both games it was a SS role and from your post, once again he didnt play up top but will give it a watch :)
 

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hmm doubt it, think it was someone else as i think i watched maybe 2 games of Greaves and IIRC he was pretty decent in it(made a compilation for him as well). One thing i know i said is that in both games i watched he didnt play as a striker as he is used in drafts, in both games it was a SS role and from your post, once again he didnt play up top but will give it a watch :)
Couldn't we make the same case for Law too? Didn't he always play inside forward/ SS behind David Herd?
 

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Couldn't we make the same case for Law too? Didn't he always play inside forward/ SS behind David Herd?
Yeah, most of the time. He didn’t like to play as a goalscorer/number 9 and was quite vocal about it, but Shankly/Busby still put him there :)
 

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He didn’t like to play as a goalscorer/number 9 and was quite vocal about it, but Shankly/Busby still put him there :)
And how did he fare when he had to play there, compared to the deeper role? (Mainly thinking of how to judge him in draft games.)
 

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And how did he fare when he had to play there, compared to the deeper role? (Mainly thinking of how to judge him in draft games.)
Oh, absolutely fantastic, although he still tried to get involved as much as possible, I’d imagine that he’s had quite a few talks with his managers about it :lol:

He has absolutely everything that you’d want from a striker, but he simply wanted to do what Di Stéfano did and, to be fair to him, he did it brilliantly.
 

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Oh, absolutely fantastic, although he still tried to get involved as much as possible, I’d imagine that he’s had quite a few talks with his managers about it :lol:

He has absolutely everything that you’d want from a striker, but he simply wanted to do what Di Stéfano did and, to be fair to him, he did it brilliantly.
Cheers. Would you say Greaves fits that kind of CF role too? The question came up in a PM discussion recently, Sjor has mentioned it above.

I often ask myself where a specific historical forward would fit into a stereotypical 4-3-3 of today - roaming CF, wide forward, attacking CM. (There are of course other forward roles in today's football, thinking of Griezmann and Cristiano, but it's a useful reference.)

(And sorry for interrogating you :lol:)
 

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Cheers. Would you say Greaves fits that kind of CF role too? The question came up in a PM discussion recently, Sjor has mentioned it above.

I often ask myself where a specific historical forward would fit into a stereotypical 4-3-3 of today - roaming CF, wide forward, attacking CM. (There are of course other forward roles in today's football, thinking of Griezmann and Cristiano, but it's a useful reference.)

(And sorry for interrogating you :lol:)
I think that a lot of those players would be number 9's today — in those days they were usually the best (or one of the best) ball-playing specialists on the pitch and the general quality of the teams was significantly lower, so it didn't make sense to isolate them in a purely attacking role. Especially in England where there's a tradition of playing a big and strong targetman up front anyway.

Today, with an emphasis in possession and an improved bottom level of their teammates, they would probably be strikers who have an option of dropping deeper & interchange with wingers/midfielders depending on the situation. The difference between Griezmann and, say, Law and Greaves, is that he doesn't have the required qualities to play up front, unless it's a clear false 9 role — and they did. Cristiano is a bit of an odd ball as he's such a unique case — he certainly could play as a traditional centre forward but even in his oldest interpretation of his role he still prefers to roam around a bit too much to be a reference point up front.
 

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Charlton gliding through the pitch is such a sight :drool:
And yet another thunderous goal, his shooting really was something else.
 

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We've got absolutely trashed there, and rightly so — Mackay (I should've made his compilation as well) was outstanding, Greaves was equally great and generally that Spurs team was so resilient, aggressive and comfortable on the ball.

So, Jimmy Greaves stars as an inside forward, making 2 assists (and a few great passes, one was simply a genius one, a through-ball with an outside of his foot, that should've ended with a goal as well) and scoring a goal that reminded me of Kaka vs us in 2007, he went through entire United defense like a hot knife through butter.


@Šjor Bepo, I think you've said somewhere that you haven't seen him play well in actual games — you should give this one a watch.
Lovely stuff. Great feet, balance and vision. Joins an exclusive group of players to take set-pieces with both feet too. Some ball near the end there from Mackay.