mav_9me
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Would love for us to get him.
It came out as disrespectful but just saying Danny’s level is not what we need now.
Agreed.Welbeck would be great for our squad, good line leader, great experience, homegrown
True. I was ready to jump to conclusions, maybe not up to the level of "Fergie and Ronaldo on the Sporting bus" but not far off, after seeing his first touch in his goal at Brighton. Its brilliant. It looks like a goal Henry would have scored in his Highbury best.Looks a prospect but very small sample size.
Cheers; good to know. I haven't watched him but that goal was quality and he looks like a Rafael and Fabio style of build, which I like in a fullback.Like Ait-Nouri attacking is his strength. He'd be a Trent in a 4, defensively...
Fair comment. Been a good pro has welbeck and would probably slot into our squad fairly easily right now!It came out as disrespectful but just saying Danny’s level is not what we need now.
If he could improve his defending. He'd actually be a top fullback.Cheers; good to know. I haven't watched him but that goal was quality and he looks like a Rafael and Fabio style of build, which I like in a fullback.
Fast, strong and direct...and he seems to have awareness and intelligence with it...not a flashy player but he shows signs of goid technique tooHaven't seen him much but just want to know if he's pacey or not. I feel we lack pace on the wings especially at LW.
That's basically what we already have.Fast, strong and direct...and he seems to have awareness and intelligence with it...not a flashy player but he shows signs of goid technique too
Sounds like he will be a star in the Championship then.18 and English and Northern are instant positives. Reminds me a bit of Sane, think his potential is huge and importantly also, he is very versatile, played in cm for Wolves...he offers cover for cunha, mbuemo, fernandes and even Mainoo, so he can be eased in and developed...think fee is going to be pretty high for an inexperienced teen at a relegated club..
But think its a sound investment...outside of priority signings, hes right up there amongst the youngers players in Europe id like as a bonus type signing
I agree, would be a solid signing for us and has that electric pace we're severely missing in attack.18 and English and Northern are instant positives. Reminds me a bit of Sane, think his potential is huge and importantly also, he is very versatile, played in cm for Wolves...he offers cover for cunha, mbuemo, fernandes and even Mainoo, so he can be eased in and developed...think fee is going to be pretty high for an inexperienced teen at a relegated club..
But think its a sound investment...outside of priority signings, hes right up there amongst the youngers players in Europe id like as a bonus type signing
There's a real dearth of 'fast and strong allied with 'intelligent ' in the squad. There are players with some pace and decent decision-making but not especially strong. There are players with ok strength and decent decision-making but not pace ( you could argue Casemiro and Mainoo both come into this category, although I think Mainoo needs to improve decision-making around progressive passing and progression generally, even setting aside the pace aspect). There are fast and strong players (like Dalot ) who are perfectly intelligent off-the-pitch but not necessarily on the field - at least by peer standards or consistently.That's basically what we already have.
Different player and not putting him on same levelThere's a real dearth of 'fast and strong allied with 'intelligent ' in the squad. There are players with some pace and decent decision-making but not especially strong. There are players with ok strength and decent decision-making but not pace ( you could argue Casemiro and Mainoo both come into this category, although I think Mainoo needs to improve decision-making around progressive passing and progression generally, even setting aside the pace aspect). There are fast and strong players (like Dalot ) who are perfectly intelligent off-the-pitch but not necessarily on the field - at least by peer standards or consistently.
Mane should only be the '3rd' CM/ but I could see him medium-term as something the squad lacks - a real strong ball-carrier who could be moulded into a Dembele (formerly of Tottenham) type, even if he doesn't have peak MD's consistency of passing yet, or Joelinton. Even an Iwobi-type would be a good squad option right now, which again (player who can play wide and central; natural strength; good composure on the ball; pretty good intuitive decision-making) is near to where he's at, factoring for age...
I remeThere's a real dearth of 'fast and strong allied with 'intelligent ' in the squad. There are players with some pace and decent decision-making but not especially strong. There are players with ok strength and decent decision-making but not pace ( you could argue Casemiro and Mainoo both come into this category, although I think Mainoo needs to improve decision-making around progressive passing and progression generally, even setting aside the pace aspect). There are fast and strong players (like Dalot ) who are perfectly intelligent off-the-pitch but not necessarily on the field - at least by peer standards or consistently.
Mane should only be the '3rd' CM/ but I could see him medium-term as something the squad lacks - a real strong ball-carrier who could be moulded into a Dembele (formerly of Tottenham) type, even if he doesn't have peak MD's consistency of passing yet, or Joelinton. Even an Iwobi-type would be a good squad option right now, which again (player who can play wide and central; natural strength; good composure on the ball; pretty good intuitive decision-making) is near to where he's at, factoring for age...
I remember two summers ago started a thread that our big target should be Desire Doue for £50m as he was super talented, though young offers huge potential but most importantly squad depth as so versatile...at Rennes he even played as deep lying playmaker and still think his best position is actually Vitinhas. I dont put Mane of the same level as Doue at Rennes...but the age and versatility is very similar. Mane gives us options at lw, rw, am and cm. With mounts injuries we have no consistent cover for Cunha, best cover for Bruno....is Cunha. Mane solves that, we dont need rw cover...but cover for Mainoo to not blocking path for Jim Thwaites either allows us to sign two proper 6s in midfield this summer (one like Gomes that can also play 8 as example is ideal)....add all this to the fact he is local and putting in really promising performances already in the premiership at a side been doomed for months...he and Gomes for £80-90m solve so many squad problems for relative fees in this crazy market. Think if we signed Baleba, Gomes, Mane and 1/2 more...most on here wouldnt be happy as not form players or names everyones mentioning....i would be really happy with that personallyThere's a real dearth of 'fast and strong allied with 'intelligent ' in the squad. There are players with some pace and decent decision-making but not especially strong. There are players with ok strength and decent decision-making but not pace ( you could argue Casemiro and Mainoo both come into this category, although I think Mainoo needs to improve decision-making around progressive passing and progression generally, even setting aside the pace aspect). There are fast and strong players (like Dalot ) who are perfectly intelligent off-the-pitch but not necessarily on the field - at least by peer standards or consistently.
Mane should only be the '3rd' CM/ but I could see him medium-term as something the squad lacks - a real strong ball-carrier who could be moulded into a Dembele (formerly of Tottenham) type, even if he doesn't have peak MD's consistency of passing yet, or Joelinton. Even an Iwobi-type would be a good squad option right now, which again (player who can play wide and central; natural strength; good composure on the ball; pretty good intuitive decision-making) is near to where he's at, factoring for age...
100% the versatility is huge and offers a lot to the squad and hes already doing it in the premiership....i just dont see hackney doing that like wharton did for example, certainly not at a top club. No very little ofKinda hoping he's CM signing #3 vs Charles/Hackney. Probably a matter of which price is closest to our valuation. Maybe insert bonus/performance
He doesn't play in a 2, he's one of the front 4 positions of attacking function.With Wolves going down, Mane is sure to move on and probably at a fairly reasonable price. As above, bringing him in as that 3rd CM signing for squad depth and prospects would be great.
He could the mane man for us
Wolves would demand a lot of mane for him
If he was signed at a reasonable price that doesn't affect the budget then yes I would sign him.
If he is at 40m or eating into the budget, then there are far better players who could come in and add something immediately to this team.
If he was signed at a reasonable price that doesn't affect the budget then yes I would sign him.
If he is at 40m or eating into the budget, then there are far better players who could come in and add something immediately to this team.
I agree. He 'might' be a good punt for CM #3, assuming Ugarte sale covers most his fee, but not for more than 25 + 5/10. I like his profile but I'd rather spend more for a fullback.