Matheus Cunha £62.5m release clause

I'd presume someone like Garnacho would have to be sold to free up the funds.
 
You'll need a back up striker to cover the 10 games he'll miss through random suspensions.
 
£62m is too much but if we can get him for under £50m I'd take him.
 
Good age at 26, especially when we generally seem to be targeting players younger than that. Carries the ball well, which seems to be important for #10s in Amorim's system. And is on course for his second league season in a row of ~20 goal contributions.

But his attitude and work rate seems to garner a fair bit of criticism from Wolves fans.
 
sullydnl said:
Good age at 26, especially when we generally seem to be targeting players younger than that. Carries the ball well, which seems to be important for #10s in Amorim's system. And is on course for his second league season in a row of ~20 goal contributions.

But his attitude and work rate seems to garner a fair bit of criticism from Wolves fans.
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Excellent, just what we're after!
 
He would be a bonus in addition to a striker. Given the other priorities and alleged tightness of funds, I can't see us making a move here.
 
We can’t afford to be looking for someone in the 10 roles when we have Garnacho, amad, mount, Fernandes, mainoo and even zirkzee who can play there. We need to focus on the no.9 and other areas first.
 
Raoul said:
He would be a bonus in addition to a striker. Given the other priorities and alleged tightness of funds, I can't see us making a move here.
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Unless it was to replace Garnacho, for a net cost of £15-£20m. Still don't like that stat about him spending more time walking than any other player in the league though
 
Oo0AahCantona said:
We can’t afford to be looking for someone in the 10 roles when we have Garnacho, amad, mount, Fernandes, mainoo and even zirkzee who can play there. We need to focus on the no.9 and other areas first.
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I'm surprised at this. We're in for him and Delap, and Garnacho is shite. Cunha has been one of the best 10s in the league this season.
 
I think he would be very dependent on outgoing sales as the price is towards the steeper side of what we are likely to be willing to spend. I guess what would appeal is that he should be fairly comfortable on either side as one of the 10's but is also quite capable of playing as a number 9 and that kind of versatility might be needed as we fill out the squad over multiple windows.
 
The fee sounds fair to me — you’re getting a baller in his prime, Premier League proven, with the right physical profile. Honestly, I’d even cash in on Garnacho if it helps make the deal happen.

If we can get Cherki for the other side of that dual 10 setup and have Amad playing RWB, that’s suddenly a team with real balance and technical quality.
 
Raoul said:
He would be a bonus in addition to a striker. Given the other priorities and alleged tightness of funds, I can't see us making a move here.
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Think it depends who we sell and what position Amorim actually wants to use other players in.

With Garnacho/Mainoo having been linked with moves and Bruno/Amad arguably first choice players in more than one position, I could imagine combinations of moves where a #10 jumps up the priority list.
 
Oo0AahCantona said:
We can’t afford to be looking for someone in the 10 roles when we have Garnacho, amad, mount, Fernandes, mainoo and even zirkzee who can play there. We need to focus on the no.9 and other areas first.
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Sell Garnacho to fund it. Problem solved. Fernandes can also play in CM, Amad can play as RWB, etc. it would give us more options.
 
Unless we have 62.5M to pay upfront he will cost a lot more to spread the cost. No thanks.
 
Wrong attitude for the cultural reset
 
sullydnl said:
Think it depends who we sell and what position Amorim actually wants to use other players in.

With Garnacho/Mainoo having been linked with moves and Bruno/Amad arguably first choice players in more than one position, I could imagine combinations of moves where a #10 jumps up the priority list.
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We also have Mount as well as Mainoo who will be competing for attacking roles. So assuming we sell one of Garnacho or Mainoo (I think it may be Garnacho), we would still have an abundance of players competing for attacking roles. Amorim would have to think Cunha was absolutely essential to further his project before prioritizing going after him imo.
 
we wont pay the release clause, if i'm not mistaken with release clause you have to pay full up front?
 
Are the people stating we have adequate options in the 10 position living in some sort of parallel fecking universe? Our attacking options are absolute shit. They aren’t even midtable quality hence why we aren’t midtable.
 
dubplate warrior said:
I'm surprised at this. We're in for him and Delap, and Garnacho is shite. Cunha has been one of the best 10s in the league this season.
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Well 9 is still a higher priority.
We may be interested but this may very well be well only become concrete if we can sell Garnacho

Let me be clear, I’m all in favor of that
 
We don’t have 62m to pay a release clause up front, do we? Unless we do all our selling before all our buying, in which case we’re in for a painful window
 
I'd absolutely love him. He has that swagger that he was born to play at Old Trafford like some of the greats we've had at the club. Think he and Amad could do serious damage in the 10 positions or he can play through the middle. Can score goals and assist in equal measure
 
Good player but there are a couple of obvious reservations with him spending as much time walking as he does and blowing his lid off twice already this season for no real reason. Who knows if we can even afford that clause either
 
2 man midfield said:
We don’t have 62m to pay a release clause up front, do we? Unless we do all our selling before all our buying, in which case we’re in for a painful window
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You are going to be in for a shock this summer when you realise we have much more money to spend than you thought we would. Would not pay this for him though personally, there are better players out there
 
Cassidy said:
You are going to be in for a shock this summer when you realise we have much more money to spend than you thought we would. Would not pay this for him though personally, there are better players out there
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I’m not sure about that. Even if we do have 62m right away, we still need about 3/4 other positions filling as a matter of urgency. We don’t have 150/200m, not a chance.
 
2 man midfield said:
We don’t have 62m to pay a release clause up front, do we? Unless we do all our selling before all our buying, in which case we’re in for a painful window
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Don’t we usually do that? Or pay a bit more upfront to pay the release clause in the instalments
 
DJ_21 said:
Don’t we usually do that? Or pay a bit more upfront to pay the release clause in the instalments
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I could see us paying more like we did with Zirkzee, but with psr who knows? It worked with Bologna, but with premier league rules wolves might want the entire fee up front for their own psr purposes
 
I think I would really, really like this one.

This bollocks about him spending the most time walking doesn't seem to be reflective of him not pulling his weight defensively - his numbers for tackles, interceptions, and blocks are solid if unspectacular for an attacking midfielder.

He's also a peak age player who has hit double figures for the past two seasons in a mediocre Wolves side. With Delap seemingly our first choice up front, I thoroughly believe we need a player in the attacking midfield spots to lighten the goalscoring burden on him. Cunha has shown himself capable of doing just that.

He's temperamental, which is a concern, but he's also a wonderfully talented player in his prime years.
 
CM said:
Good player but there are a couple of obvious reservations with him spending as much time walking as he does and blowing his lid off twice already this season for no real reason. Who knows if we can even afford that clause either
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Let's not sign Cantona from Leeds, that guy is a loon
 
Mmm-Qatarian said:
This bollocks about him spending the most time walking doesn't seem to be reflective of him not pulling his weight defensively - his numbers for tackles, interceptions, and blocks are solid if unspectacular for an attacking midfielder.
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Yes exactly

Remember the geese said:
That would be the point. It won't be happening otherwise.
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I think it can still happen but I'm not sure what the plan for the summer is and how aggressive they want to be right now. For me, moving Amad to RWB permanently and make three quality signings (CM, CF, #10) is enough to improve significantly. That's not too many players and hope whatever we raise on Sancho, Rashford and Antony is enough to cover this summer's shopping spree.

They could choose to go full FIFA like last window and ship all of Mainoo, Garnacho, Antony, Sancho, Rashford, Hojlund and Onana and do a major attacking rebuild. I don't believe in Vivell and Wilcox enough to trust that they can pull this off well. There were rumors for each of these players (Mainoo and Sancho -> Chelsea, Garnacho and Hojlund -> Italy, Rashford -> Villa, Europe etc.)
 
Teja said:
Yes exactly



I think it can still happen but I'm not sure what the plan for the summer is and how aggressive they want to be right now. For me, moving Amad to RWB permanently and make three quality signings (CM, CF, #10) is enough to improve significantly. That's not too many players and hope whatever we raise on Sancho, Rashford and Antony is enough to cover this summer's shopping spree.

They could choose to go full FIFA like last window and ship all of Mainoo, Garnacho, Antony, Sancho, Rashford, Hojlund and Onana and do a major attacking rebuild. I don't believe in Vivell and Wilcox enough to trust that they can pull this off well. There were rumors for each of these players (Mainoo and Sancho -> Chelsea, Garnacho and Hojlund -> Italy, Rashford -> Villa, Europe etc.)
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Not a chance that Mainoo will be sold. We wouldn't be against Onana going to Saudi. The difficulty with a Højlund sale is that we won't be taking a loss on what is left to pay, so the only alternative would be a loan with an option/obligation. We obviously want at least two attacking players. One experienced option (Osimhen/Cunha) and one younger option (Delap/a young number 10).
 
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Not a chance that Mainoo will be sold. We wouldn't be against Onana going to Saudi. The difficulty with a Højlund sale is that we won't be taking a loss on what is left to pay, so the only alternative would be a loan with an option/obligation. We obviously want at least two attacking players. One experienced option (Osimhen/Cunha) and one younger option (Delap/a young number 10).
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He hasn't signed a new contract yet, so let's see.

If we do sell Garnacho AND manage to get all of Rashford, Sancho, Antony, Hojlund etc. off the books then it's going to be a lot more than two attackers that get signed. I'm just advocating for a more limited window and not going too crazy until we really trust Vivell and Wilcox because if they go aggressive and feck up, I think it's lights out for us for another decade.

This year's cohort (ZZ, Maz, De Ligt, Yoro, Ugarte, Dorgu) - None of them were Antony level flops or overpays but also hard to call them a blinder of a signing. Each one has some question mark or the other. The question of Amorim's fit also remains.
 
Oo0AahCantona said:
We can’t afford to be looking for someone in the 10 roles when we have Garnacho, amad, mount, Fernandes, mainoo and even zirkzee who can play there. We need to focus on the no.9 and other areas first.
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Couldn’t disagree more. Not one of those players bar perhaps Amad suits number 10 in this system. Bruno will be a midfielder under Amorim when he gets the correct 10s in place. His sporting team had some of the highest stats in Europe for dribbles completed into the box, passes but dribbles. We don’t really have a single player capable of doing that and opining up space. In my mind Cunha is the perfect player for that role.
 
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