[The Corinthian]

He's been a breath of fresh air but he had a stinker today. His decision making was really poor, and he should have been subbed off first instead of Mazraoui.

He tries to dribble when the pass is on, he tries to pass when he needs to dribble. I think he's trying too hard and just needs to keep it simple.

His poor first touch also meant we lost possession in promising positions a lot of times.

 

[Oo0AahCantona]

He's not a CF, nothing we have seen of him shows that he can play that role, we need to stop sabotaging him. Was bobbins today and his output hasn't been good enough yet. He will come good because he has a fantastic mentality and other qualities we need.

 

[Malone_Post]

Personally I’ve been pretty baffled by the seeming universal praise he’s been getting when people talk about him & Mbeumo being such good signings. Mbeumo yes, but Cunha has very underwhelming so far.

Yes he’s fun to watch at times but 1 goal & 0 assists in 10 games is absolutely nowhere near good enough. You can look pretty and have good moments all you like, but until you start directly effecting games then it’s all a bit pointless.

 

[FlawlessVictory88]

Personally I’ve been pretty baffled by the seeming universal praise he’s been getting when people talk about him & Mbeumo being such good signings. Mbeumo yes, but Cunha has very underwhelming so far.

Yes he’s fun to watch at times but 1 goal & 0 assists in 10 games is absolutely nowhere near good enough. You can look pretty and have good moments all you like, but until you start directly effecting games then it’s all a bit pointless.

First of all he's completed a full game 7 times with a bunch of appearances too due to injuries, secondly he's been the best player on the pitch in games when he didn't score including against Arsenal and Liverpool.

Lastly it is a deliberate tactic by Amorim that will lead to a big difference in goalscoring numbers, it's called overload to isolate. United build up down the left much more than on the right because this draws the opposition onto that side of the pitch with the plan being to then quickly switch play to Mbeumo on the opposite wing now in a 1V1 or running in behind. If Amorim used the same tactic but instead built up mostly on the right then switched play to Cunha in 1V1 or running in behind you'd see him with way more goals/assists too.

 

[Hammondo]

First of all he's completed a full game 7 times with a bunch of appearances too due to injuries, secondly he's been the best player on the pitch in games when he didn't score including against Arsenal and Liverpool.

Lastly it is a deliberate tactic by Amorim that will lead to a big difference in goalscoring numbers, it's called overload to isolate. United build up down the left much more than on the right because this draws the opposition onto that side of the pitch with the plan being to then quickly switch play to Mbeumo on the opposite wing now in a 1V1 or running in behind. If Amorim used the same tactic but instead built up mostly on the right then switched play to Cunha in 1V1 or running in behind you'd see him with way more goals/assists too.

I wouldn't agree, he ran a lot in those games but produced feck all. He looks lively and everyone gets excited, but in reality didn't produce anything.

 

[Oranges038]

So, he's shit now?

 

[Chip]

So, he's shit now?

He's been beyond shit in the last couple of games - does anyone disagree with that? Hopefully, it's just a short drop in form as he's clearly a quality player when on form.

 

[FlawlessVictory88]

I wouldn't agree, he ran a lot in those games but produced feck all. He looks lively and everyone gets excited, but in reality didn't produce anything.

This might be the worst post I've ever read.

 

[NZT-One]

I wouldn't agree, he ran a lot in those games but produced feck all. He looks lively and everyone gets excited, but in reality didn't produce anything.

I think, thats pretty harsh. I mean, he isn't alone responsible for his output and I don't think, the team is set up to make the most use of him. Don't want to say he has been brilliant or something along those lines but I think that Cunha is a player that needs a certain environment to thrive and it is our job to create that.

 

[Hammondo]

I think, thats pretty harsh. I mean, he isn't alone responsible for his output and I don't think, the team is set up to make the most use of him. Don't want to say he has been brilliant or something along those lines but I think that Cunha is a player that needs a certain environment to thrive and it is our job to create that.

Why is it? Why isn't it his job to create it for someone else? I find it odd these players need certain environments to do the basics.

I am not sure who else is to blame for his performances, are others stopping him from passing? Has he been creating for others?

 

[Semigoodlookin]

The modern Manchester United tradition of buying players and playing them where they are not comfortable continues.

 

[Hammondo]

The modern Manchester United tradition of buying players and playing them where they are not comfortable continues.

What's the excuse when he's playing as a 10?

 

[Semigoodlookin]

What's the excuse when he's playing as a 10?

Excuse for what?

 

[Hammondo]

Excuse for what?

Playing poorly.

 

[Semigoodlookin]

Playing poorly.

I didn't mention his performances, and made a comment not related to that.

 

[Red00012]

He's been a breath of fresh air but he had a stinker today. His decision making was really poor, and he should have been subbed off first instead of Mazraoui.

He tries to dribble when the pass is on, he tries to pass when he needs to dribble. I think he's trying too hard and just needs to keep it simple.

His poor first touch also meant we lost possession in promising positions a lot of times.

It doesn’t help when we play him out of position. Mount was the better option today I think

 

[NZT-One]

Why is it? Why isn't it his job to create it for someone else?

Because he just like any other player isn't just either good or bad but a skillset with a set of physical attributes. I don't want to say that it isn't his job to create for others but I think it is fair to assume that has been brought in to be a mainstay of our attack. He has a modern skillset, is in his prime and has a track record of being effective in the league.

I find it odd these players need certain environments to do the basics.

I am not sure who else is to blame for his performances, are others stopping him from passing? Has he been creating for others?

I have no issue criticizing him for his shortcomings when they happen. What I wanted to point out is that I don't think we play towards the strengths of a few of our players and so they won't thrive as much as in other environments where they were shining before.

 

[Hammondo]

Because he just like any other player isn't just either good or bad but a skillset with a set of physical attributes. I don't want to say that it isn't his job to create for others but I think it is fair to assume that has been brought in to be a mainstay of our attack. He has a modern skillset, is in his prime and has a track record of being effective in the league.

I have no issue criticizing him for his shortcomings when they happen. What I wanted to point out is that I don't think we play towards the strengths of a few of our players and so they won't thrive as much as in other environments where they were shining before.

Can you give some examples please.

 

[Oranges038]

He's been beyond shit in the last couple of games - does anyone disagree with that? Hopefully, it's just a short drop in form as he's clearly a quality player when on form.

Aye, just wouldn't be wrting him off just yet. He
hasn't looked up to it since the hamstring injury. Maybe it's still holding him back or he doesn't trust his body yet.

 

[NZT-One]

Can you give some examples please.

Examples of what? Of players that thrived in certain environments but not so much in others? The Kagawa story? The DVB story? Di Maria? Cunha himself worked really well just a year ago for a Wolves team that made him the attacking centre piece. He enjoyed a level of freedom so he could make use of his abilities. For United, he sure can't expect the same level of freedom but we know that he is a good presser and we know that he is a good dribbler so the obvious thing to do would be to create 1v1 situations for him. But thats not happening as much as long as we seem to play longballs and hope for 2nd balls.
Don't get me wrong, thats not me trying to take away blame from him when he fecks things up. I am just saying that it isn't as if we are some attacking powerhouse where every attacking player thrives just by getting through the door.

 

[Telsim]

I think he's been underwhelming so far.

 

[Hammondo]

Examples of what? Of players that thrived in certain environments but not so much in others? The Kagawa story? The DVB story? Di Maria? Cunha himself worked really well just a year ago for a Wolves team that made him the attacking centre piece. He enjoyed a level of freedom so he could make use of his abilities. For United, he sure can't expect the same level of freedom but we know that he is a good presser and we know that he is a good dribbler so the obvious thing to do would be to create 1v1 situations for him. But thats not happening as much as long as we seem to play longballs and hope for 2nd balls.
Don't get me wrong, thats not me trying to take away blame from him when he fecks things up. I am just saying that it isn't as if we are some attacking powerhouse where every attacking player thrives just by getting through the door.

Of players currently not being provided with the right environment.

 

[Bondi77]

Started the season well for us but wasn't good in this game.
Is a top player so no worries yet.

 

[NZT-One]

Of players currently not being provided with the right environment.

I think most of our defenders would fare better in a less frantic and less reactive environment. I am not going to waste time on the midfield but I guess it is quite obvious that for example Bruno would fare better when the environment would provide more cover for him. Casemiro would fare better with more cover around him. Mainoo the same. Mount fares best in a high pressing environment (my personal opinion), Sesko would work the best if he had more traditional providers of chances around him, Mbeumo I think is covered, Amad probably as well.

Plus Cunha is a new player coming into an underperforming team on the brink of being dysfunctional last year. I don't think you assume that most of our issues have been take care of since then, right? Also keep in mind that I didn't say you were wrong or out of your mind with your standpoint, I just called it fairly harsh.

 

[TheNewEra]

I think he's been underwhelming so far.

Arsenal his only standout game imo.

Hopefully he integrates soon, we all know he can be brilliant but we haven't seen much yet

 

[#07]

Cunha does a lot of good but he doesn't half like a dribble. Proper ball hog. When it comes off you smile but his impact on attacking transitions sometimes...

 

[Dion]

Another classic 'Cunha against teams who deny him space to run into' performance today...

 

[Woziak]

I think he's been underwhelming so far.

Totally agree, he talks well, clearly loves the club but 1 PL goal in 9 Matches, no assists and honestly only been very good against Arsenal, Liverpool and decent against Brighton, if we had Carabo it’s 1 in 10.

He works hard, holds onto the ball far too long and if you play him as a 9, he’s not sniffing goals in the 6 yard box, he’s looking to come to the ball and therefore compress the game, his style does not stretch the pitch like a fast number 9 like Osimhen would have, Šeško needs time, he will come good, but he needs to start scoring goals!

We’ve scored 19 PL goals in 11 Games which is an average of 1.73 which is definitely an improvement on last year, however conceding 18 is beyond poor and that’s on Amorim, he keeps subbing and tinkering with the defence and wing backs far too much!!

 

[FlawlessVictory88]

Why is it? Why isn't it his job to create it for someone else? I find it odd these players need certain environments to do the basics.

I am not sure who else is to blame for his performances, are others stopping him from passing? Has he been creating for others?

Sure he's not creating anything, except for the run at :40 and the run + cross at 1:00 that would be a tap in for any team with a #9. Then his turn/run and pass at 1.40 that nearly got us a goal.

Cunha vs Arsenal

 

[FrankDrebin]

I think he's been underwhelming so far.

Pretty much.
The Liverpool game is the clear standout but aside from that, and a few little moments, I've been fairly underwhelmed.

He made a fair amount of poor choices yesterday and in the previous game.

Concerning.

 

[Danny]

Arsenal his only standout game imo.

Hopefully he integrates soon, we all know he can be brilliant but we haven't seen much yet

He was brilliant against Liverpool a few weeks ago. He has been slightly underwhelming but he's clearly got the talent and ability to be an improvement player for us. He's usually involved in most of the good stuff we do.

 

[Dan_F]

Not sure what Amorim sees in playing him as the striker. He’s essentially moved three players out of their settled positions to end up with Maz at right wing back.

I’d genuinely love to understand the tactical discussion that involves changing around a team that much from game to game.

 

[Pav1878]

Not sure what Amorim sees in playing him as the striker. He’s essentially moved three players out of their settled positions to end up with Maz at right wing back.

I’d genuinely love to understand the tactical discussion that involves changing around a team that much from game to game.

I think it’s because he doesn’t trust the guy we actually bought as our striker

 

[Pav1878]

He was brilliant against Liverpool a few weeks ago. He has been slightly underwhelming but he's clearly got the talent and ability to be an improvement player for us. He's usually involved in most of the good stuff we do.

I agree. He adds dynamism and ball retention ability. But he also needs to know when to release the ball quickly and pop it off to a teammate before receiving it back.

 

[Dan_F]

I think it’s because he doesn’t trust the guy we actually bought as our striker

Cunha stunk up the place and we have a better PPG when Sesko starts. Hes over complicating things.

 

[Bo_devil]

Not sure what Amorim sees in playing him as the striker. He’s essentially moved three players out of their settled positions to end up with Maz at right wing back.

I’d genuinely love to understand the tactical discussion that involves changing around a team that much from game to game.

Maybe it's the aggression among other attributes, that Cunha brings over Sesko. For His size, I feel like Sesko should be throwing his weight around a bit more. I wonder if Amorim really wanted him, considering he'd worked out that he needed physical, aggressive attackers. I don't see physicality or aggression in Seskos game, even Rasmus was more of a handful for defenders.

 

[RuudTom83]

Threads are always far busier when player x has had a bad game.

The Amorim thread was so quiet during that 3 game winning run.

You really have to resist the urge to complain about every single player in the squad, they will all have good games and bad games.

Cunha has been a great addition and has had some real standout performances.

 

[Dan_F]

Maybe it's the aggression among other attributes, that Cunha brings over Sesko. For His size, I feel like Sesko should be throwing his weight around a bit more. I wonder if Amorim really wanted him, considering he'd worked out that he needed physical, aggressive attackers. I don't see physicality or aggression in Seskos game, even Rasmus was more of a handful for defenders.

I don’t see it, what has that supposed aggression led to? Sesko is far more effective at holding off defenders, laying the ball off, and winning flick ons than Hojlund was. It’s not even a debate.

We’ve played much better football with Cunha at 10.

 

[M Bison]

Think he’s been class personally and so many of the posts in this thread are stupid. Had a poor game and he’s getting berated, weird to read. It’s a funny ole game!

 

[Bo_devil]

I don’t see it, what has that supposed aggression led to? Sesko is far more effective at holding off defenders, laying the ball off, and winning flick ons than Hojlund was. It’s not even a debate.

We’ve played much better football with Cunha at 10.

Mbeuno and Cunha are more aggressive attackers than what we had with Rashford/Antony and Garnacho. Seems like youre missing the point, considering Amorim has often spoke of physicality and aggression being an asset in this league a few times.

For whats it worth, I didnt even see the game yesterday. I saw the highlights, I agree with Shearer, he should be fighting to get a shot away there.
I like him, just feel he needs to man up a bit and that's a general opinion on watching him this season, not one game. He's got the size to bully defenders.

Btw, ask strikers like Diego costa or Drogba what that aggression led to in this league, more goals!

Anyway, thats why for me, Cunha starts up front, ahead of Sesko, for now.