Contracts signed before a medical? I’m sure he will pass it but that’s still very unusual.
Matthijs de Ligt / signs for Juventus, lowering their average age to 56
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contract signed between clubs, and there is always a "subject to" clause. If the player is not fit to play the contract may be void, as it happened when Juve bought Shick 2 years ago and then voided the deal when he did not pass the medicals due to a heart problem
Time to close the case on this one until Mino decides he wants more money again
and yet where is the official club confirmation?
In Italy, everything still runs slow apparently. Ave Cesaria.
in the old days, Fergie and Gill would have flown out to try to hijack the deal and get De Light to change his mind. Woodward, meanwhile, prefers to keep his chequebook warm by sleeping with it under his pillow
You never let it rest do you Mitch? He didn't want to join us! deal with it.
Delusional, we are dog shit, not in the CL, with a manager nobody knows if they are going to do well or be there next year. De Ligt figures he can join Juve, win stuff and get a big payday sometime in the future for another top club OR join United get similar money to Juve and play behind our midfield. Weird he chose Juve tbh.
TBF Gill and Fergie refused to pay Hazard's agent his money and look how much difference these 5-10m would have made for our next 10 years if we paid then and added Hazard to the team.
Woodward is shite but Gill had his flaws as well imo.
9. Arsenal
2nd best team in England according to this. I think they are giving too many points in the Europa
All what we have similiar with Juve is reputation of giant club. And that is it. Juve currently have squad which is in top 3 in Europe, they are no1 favourite in Italy and the most important thing; they want to be no1 every fecking season and that is their only short and long term goal.
So, great and smart move by him.
Will this ever end. Put me out of my misery.
With all due respect, considering this is a United forum where most posters are reasonable, do you think Pogba is happy with his move from Juve to United? Was it a step up in his career, looking at the state of the clubs the past years? Was his agent, who happens to be the same guy, smart then?
Some people are really understating the pull of Juventus right now. They're a huge club with a much better squad than ours. Just ask Pogba how smart it was leaving them to come here.
It's a good move for him. He's still learning the game and you couldn't have many better teachers than Chiellini. He also gets to play with Ronaldo which should be a dream for any young player. If Juve drop off in the next 5 years he will still be just 24 with his pick of any club he wants to get his prime years.
I get that the challenge of rebuilding here might attract some players, but not all. There is every chance that 5 years from now we'll still be where we are now. Who at the club now would he learn from? He's not the finished article despite the well earned hype.
It's a good move for him. He's still learning the game and you couldn't have many better teachers than Chiellini. He also gets to play with Ronaldo which should be a dream for any young player. If Juve drop off in the next 5 years he will still be just 24 with his pick of any club he wants to get his prime years.
I get that the challenge of rebuilding here might attract some players, but not all. There is every chance that 5 years from now we'll still be where we are now. Who at the club now would he learn from? He's not the finished article despite the well earned hype.
I hope Juve are caught in another match fixing scandal and are relegated into oblivion.
No one thougt ManUtd would be a (d)legit option for De Ligt, besides some ManUtd-Fans. Barca, Juve, Bayern, PSG, ManUtd - which Club doesn´t fit?
PSG because they play in a joke league with no competition.
Obviously PSG.
Is this a trick question? He said he wants a challenge, playing time and spoke about his love of the PL, so why wouldn’t he consider it?
Pogba plays in a stronger league and has had some issues adapting to that. That has helped him develop as a player. The easy path would be to stay at Juventus and always win the league and not develop as much.
Juventus is a better unit now, but that can change fast.
Same can happen with De Ligt. He's only 19 (similar to Pogba when he started to play for Juventus) and when he gets his maximum level in Italian league he can go and try to find new challenge, stronger league or whatever. He's doing his best for himself at this time, will learn a lot about defending from great players, and when time comes in 3,4 years he can easily leave still being young to develop even more in different enviroment.
agree Gill had flaws but he often listened to SAF and "did as he was told"!
I don't believe we did enough to get him... it would hardly be surprising if this was fact given Woodward's record
Enough? We offered him a small fortune. Given the choice of winning things with chiellini or pairing smalling and probably finishing 5th
I really wanted him, and thought he came across as a cool dude.
Turns out he's a bit of a tease. Like griezmann but without the shitty hairdo and videos....
His agent is also such a tool it really makes me not want him
Turns out he's a bit of a tease. Like griezmann but without the shitty hairdo and videos....
His agent is also such a tool it really makes me not want him
You still believe he didn't come due to agent fee?
Like that time Fergie and Gill flew to London and convinced Nasri to join us instead of City.
Or that time Fergie and Gill flew out to Lille and convinced Hazard to join us instead of Chelsea.
"Wanting a challenge" is hot air spouted to the media for the sake of saying something. If he wanted a challenge he'd stay at Ajax and try to build on last season.
No one wants a challenge in work life, everyone wants to get paid top dollar while working in the most comfortable position possible.
His Juve transfer is a pure Raiola decision. Juve are embracing Raiola while Barca and Real don't like the guy, nor does Guardiola so City were never even linked to him and PSG did not agree to a buyout clause in his contract.
The goal here is to transfer the De Ligt as many times as possible and get a hefty transfer bonus every time to fill Raiola's pockets. Not much else to it. He will actually be a Manchester United player in a few years only to be moved on again another 3 years later, like Pogba.
Of course if he doesn't flop and still maintains a reputation.
No one wants a challenge in work life, everyone wants to get paid top dollar while working in the most comfortable position possible.
His Juve transfer is a pure Raiola decision. Juve are embracing Raiola while Barca and Real don't like the guy, nor does Guardiola so City were never even linked to him and PSG did not agree to a buyout clause in his contract.
The goal here is to transfer the De Ligt as many times as possible and get a hefty transfer bonus every time to fill Raiola's pockets. Not much else to it. He will actually be a Manchester United player in a few years only to be moved on again another 3 years later, like Pogba.
Of course if he doesn't flop and still maintains a reputation.
It certainly does, just a few minutes ago arrived back from the Military academy in Rome, lots of time discussing how subjects were going to be discussed. 3 days later nothing decided and no progress but great food and wine.
in 3-4 years time if things go according to plans Juve turnover will be much closer to that of top clubs in terms of commercial income and De Ligt will stay on. This year should already get close to 500 M and the rebranding strategy seems to be working out, if it gets to 600-700 within the next 4 years, renewing de ligt and the others will not be difficult. He will leave only if the club fails to grow further, in any event giving for granted that he will leave in 3 years is wrong also because while we have often let offensive players go as long as the offer was good, we have usually kept defensive talents long term even when there were good offers and financially it might have made sense to sell them, since at Juve there is a very deep rooted belief that every great team starts from a great defense
I agree, though I think Cristiano Ronaldo also played a part in landing him there. They want to win the champions league and their defence is pretty old so he will have a part to play, Riaola gets his money and buyout clause wishes, Deligt gets a winning team and a great salary and hence less pressure.
Also I have heard that Italian govt have made tax changes to attract talents to Italy, that might have played a a part as well.
It's still going!
What a tedious monstrosity.
Yes, but if there is a release clause and he turns as good as many think he will be, someone will pay the clause no doubt.
If he decides to leave. It's up to him ultimately
It was a pretty much done deal prior to that. Chelsea at this time were more ruthless and had no problem paying dodgy money for agents if it would get them what they wanted.
Just landed in Turin
Wonder what will happen when they still don't win the CL?
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Yeah, he doesn't have to move at all, could stay at Juve for more than 3 years and become club legend.
I just wanted to show to the poster that he also has chance to do exactly what Pogba did if he still wants it 3,4 years down the road.
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