Maurizio Sarri's Sack Watch | And Now Our Watch Has Ended

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A coach should get at least one year to implement his ideas. If next year the team is still playing below par then they should think about sacking him.
 

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Juventus need to stop being bitches and just accept the Improved competition.

Cant win the league every year. And it would be boring if you did.
 

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It's true that Inter is more competitve this season, but comparing Juve numbers Allegri had more goals scored and less goals taken. They are playing even a much less effective football, not to mention the poor pressing that seems to break the team in 2 blocks.
 

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A coach should get at least one year to implement his ideas. If next year the team is still playing below par then they should think about sacking him.
Don't think there should be a hard and fast rule like that. It has to be seen on a case to case basis. Of course you try to give the manager a decent run if possible. But for example we couldn't give Moyes a second season. Same with that Spanish NT manager who joined Madrid.
 

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Can it be a case that given the dominance Juve has over Serie A there might be an element of delusion in terms of their perceived strength at European level? Serie A is not what it used to be and being so dominant there sadly does not mean you should be a favorite to European trophies.
 

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Fraud of a manager. Remember all the cringe inducing talk of Sarri-ball when he was at Chelsea.
 

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Can it be a case that given the dominance Juve has over Serie A there might be an element of delusion in terms of their perceived strength at European level? Serie A is not what it used to be and being so dominant there sadly does not mean you should be a favorite to European trophies.
Look at the players they have. They should be performing much better than they are, especially against a team like Lyon, who have been incredibly hot and cold this season.
 

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Look at the players they have. They should be performing much better than they are, especially against a team like Lyon, who have been incredibly hot and cold this season.
I don't really know what to believe tbh; maybe some of those players are a bit over rated. I've seen Smalling, Lukaku now Young being very, very good in Serie A so maybe some of the Juve players that we think are so good because they are dominating that league are actually not that great at the higher echelons of European football.

How good of a midfield actually is Pjanic, Rabiot and Bentancur? Their big competition in the League are two clubs that have failed to go through the CL group stage and the Europa League group stage. So what exactly is the level we are talking about here?
 

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Not when it clearly isn't working though.
You'll know if its not working after one year of training sessions and 2-3 players brought in to carry out the coach's vision.
Don't think there should be a hard and fast rule like that. It has to be seen on a case to case basis. Of course you try to give the manager a decent run if possible. But for example we couldn't give Moyes a second season. Same with that Spanish NT manager who joined Madrid.
Jury is out on Moyes, I'm not sure if the results wouldn't have improved the next year. He was taking over from a long serving manager, there was bound to be a dip.
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Jury is out on Moyes, I'm not sure if the results wouldn't have improved the next year. He was taking over from a long serving manager, there was bound to be a dip.
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It was clear to everybody that he wasn't competent to manage a club of Manchester United's stature. Anyone who still has doubts over his sacking needs to relook how terrible he was. It's obviously evidence that you don't have silly rules like 'must be given a second season' and there are many such examples. If your CEO commits a massive fraud after 3 months does the board say "yeah he's running us into the ground, but our principals don't allow us to get rid of him. It's just so... wrong."
 

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A coach should get at least one year to implement his ideas. If next year the team is still playing below par then they should think about sacking him.
A top club who have serious ambition don't think that way. Sarri has been doing a below par job and neither are his team playing some amazing football. I thought I would never see it happening but he is making Allegri's football look entertaining. It was a stupid appointment by Juve.
 

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He isn't implementing his philosophy which begs the question why did Juventus sign him? It's Allegri's football but worse.
 

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“In this match, in Italy, we would have had two penalties. But we have to adapt to European arbitration,” tackled the former Naples coach

:lol:

Fraud of a manager. Remember all the cringe inducing talk of Sarri-ball when he was at Chelsea.
Yeah, Sarri ball is something else, I hate modern football talk because of terms like that made by facebook fans who don't even watch football.
 

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“In this match, in Italy, we would have had two penalties. But we have to adapt to European arbitration,” tackled the former Naples coach
Oh dear, is he saying "we couldn't buy the refs?" He wants to be careful considering Juventus' history.
 

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Sarllegri ball

Ronaldo has got a good return on goals in Serie A though but 48 team total and just 2 for Ronnie in the CL is low
 

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How good of a midfield actually is Pjanic, Rabiot and Bentancur?
How good of a midfield is Fabinho, Henderson and Wijnaldum?

They're great players. The problem is how Sarri wants them to play, they just haven't been able to digest it, they only play well in short bursts and outside of those they struggle

Even yesterday they played well in the final 20 minutes and had the chances to equalize(also probably should have had a penalty). The problem was the first half
 

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Sarri, like Klopp, is not a manager who can afford to carry luxury players like Ronaldo or Hazard in his teams. Everyone needs to work for each other. Ronaldo is a horrible fit for the brand of football he wants to play.

They should have just stuck with Allegri, who is a more flexible coach.
 

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The feck - when did Ronaldo become a luxury player :houllier:

Nice younger age Ronaldo would be absolutely amazing under Klopp.

Funny how only the Real Madrid players are Luxurious :lol:
 

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Sarri doesn't have a young Ronaldo though.
And Sarri isn't Klopp.

Sarri is trash - if he can't make Ronaldo work there is something wrong with him :lol:

Sarri's suddenly the thing that's worth it & Ronaldo isn't? Give me a break.

The fact is in football you do not always get what you want & if Sarri can't get an Individual like Ronaldo to work then the problem is bloody Sarri not Ronaldo :houllier::houllier:
 

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Sarri is trash - if he can't make Ronaldo work there is something wrong with him :lol:
No, he's got the Ronaldo who scored 25 goals in 30 games so far this season for Juve.
If Ronaldo is scoring at a higher rate than last season then Sarri hasn't failed at making Ronaldo work.
He also made Hazard work. 16 goals, 15 assists last season.

The point is they're great individuals, but not the type of players you build a strong TEAM with, where the whole is greater than the sum of it's parts, like the one he created at Napoli. You'll always be too reliant on them because they require you to build around them and seek sacrifices from the rest.
Allegri had this same problem last season.

Cristiano was very flexible tactically in his physical prime, but not anymore, although he's still one of the best players in the world. Hazard on the other hand never had a good off-ball game or work rate. The Chelsea form was decided by Hazard's form, regardless of the coach at helm.
 

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The entire problem here is they're stuck in the middle between the team they were for 8 years and the team Sarri wants them to be

It's not that Sarri's football isn't working, or that Cristiano is a problem for Sarri(looool he's the reason he still has the job) it's that they aren't able to play Sarri's football consistently
 

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He's a bit of a coward isn't he, I actually think the Kepa incident has ruined his career as now players know he's a complete shitehouse with no backbone.

I'd also like to add he's not helped by having to rotate about 20 midfielders and attackers week in week out. The squad is huge and sometimes that effects consistency.
 

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What, has this thread been re-purposed for Juve :lol:
 

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Why bloody higuain. Hate managers who have one type of tactic that require a certain preferable type of player
 

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Why the feck did they hire ? Makes no sense.

A team that dominates the domestic competition and just wants a top manager to win them CL and this manager ends up being Sarri ? :lol:
 

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He's a bit of a coward isn't he, I actually think the Kepa incident has ruined his career as now players know he's a complete shitehouse with no backbone.

I'd also like to add he's not helped by having to rotate about 20 midfielders and attackers week in week out. The squad is huge and sometimes that effects consistency.
He just won league