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Bizarre thread.
Baffles me. We need quality depth - its a major issue.Why are some on the cafe so against the idea of having squad depth?
How is getting rid of one and replacing them with depth for a role we actually play every game being against depth?Why are some on the cafe so against the idea of having squad depth?
This. It wasn't long ago we had to resort to playing O'shea, Rafael da Silva and a 59 year old Ryan Giggs in central midfield. I'd happily embrace the added midfield depth over going back to shoehorning anyone we could into midfield.Why are some on the cafe so against the idea of having squad depth?
This is something that baffles me. We need both of them plus another midfielder.Why are some on the cafe so against the idea of having squad depth?
They are capable and the team is still able to function when one of them is playing. When both are playing, we struggle to progress the ball forward and the forwards are forced to drop deep to help in the buildup. The drop off in passing and on the ball quality between Matic/Pogba and Fred/McT is noticeable and makes a difference in the team's ability to control games. Given our current options, we need them as a replacement when there is a tight schedule, but in the long run, one of them should be sold. We should also attempt to acquire a midfielder with a better ability on the ball this summer when 2 of Bruno/Matic/Pogba needs a rest/injured. Either as an upgrade on Matic (Partey) or as a rotational player able to step in for Matic/PP.They enable us to rest Matic and either Pogba or Fernandes - they play well together defensively and we still have a creative AM.
The thread is a long term view. In that long term view (and just imagine this) there is no lingard. I'm saying if we want this 433 with a true dm and two more attack minded players, I think one of Fred or mctominay gives us an option, but both feel like overkill considering neither are a perfect fit for a starting spot in the current system.We even need someone like Lingard for squad depth if he can get his act together.
I don't think Ndidi is a player that will fit our style of play if I am honest. We play more with a Deep lying playmaker rather than a ball winner in the DM role.We need both plus Ndidi.
These two actually balance the rotation options. McT can play across the defensive third and Fred can play across the attacking third.
Fred play across the attacking third? Good to replace Pogba and Bruno? How is a guy who doesn’t score, a guy who can’t even hit the target let alone score, doesn’t assist, and creates absolutely nothing, a good replacement for Bruno and Pogba? He offers absolutely nothing that they do.Strange thread and I see I'm not the only one who noticed that.
Of course we need both, they're good to rest Pogba or Bruno. As the game yesterday showed not both and when both play without a creative midfielder quality drops rapidly. They both showed before the brake they're good squad players and were quality. Problem is they havent been at their best since the comeback and that's a problem. Saying all that I'm not sure either are good enough to play instead of Matić longterm and Matić needs his game time reduced due to his shape and form.
Not replace but sub. Keep one creative midfielder and change the structure, depending on the game, like it should have been done yesterday and that's why I said both Bruno and Pogba shouldn't be out of the game in the same time. Fred and McTominay can play insted of Matić too and given Matić's form right now and fatigue one of them should probably start on thursday.Fred play across the attacking third? Good to replace Pogba and Bruno? How is a guy who doesn’t score, a guy who can’t even hit the target let alone score, doesn’t assist, and creates absolutely nothing, a good replacement for Bruno and Pogba? He offers absolutely nothing that they do.
You can’t replace two of the top creative players in the league who regularly score and create multiple chances a game with someone who barely can create multiple chances in an entire season.
Why not just get a backup who is actually capable of producing something?
No. If they're injured or suspended, sure why not.Good to replace Pogba and Bruno?
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I remember reading your opinions on this topic in the McTominay thread at the time and agreed then as I do now. Long term, it's pointless having both for the reasons you've stated.No, they’re both defensive 8s. Exactly what I said I’m the McTominay thread last week. It’s A role we should only ever be using in big games. Get rid of one and get a new midfielder who actually fits the system we use in 70% of matches.