I actually think that says more about United than it does Martial. Completely lacking in deftness and grace, all too eager to attract and appease the stars.
Clearly Luke Shaw. Have you seen his skinnies?
That's how I see it myself, particularly when they gave him the number 11 and maybe the fact that I'm a fan of Giggs, I would prefer to have the 11 than the 9 but I still wouldn't like the way they allegedly did it.
But people will continue to call him a 'bad influence'. Baffling!
This is not something you can fix overnight. However, I definitely feel there is a difference, regards work off the ball. I haven't got the stats, but the players on the pitch certainly seem to be working harder than previous years. Think they big problem is, some of them are actually not as good as they think they are, and because of that, we will struggle to reach this 'objective' Fred is talking about. We need better players. It's as simple as that!
That's the part that is underestimated and I will add the type of character that you have. Pogba is the best example of that, you are not going to find a lot of people that will tell you that Pogba doesn't have a very good work ethic and is liked by everyone, the issue is that most people will tell you that he is a fun guy that contributes to a good atmosphere but he isn't a leader that will set the rules and give clear instructions to his teammates. For France it's the type of things that the likes of Griezmann and Matuidi are known to do, for Juventus it was Chiellini, Pirlo and Buffon, for Ancelotti's Milan it was Seedorf, Gattuso, Maldini, Pirlo and Ambrosini. All of these teams also had the jovial, likeable type, those are important but you need the rule setters, the manager's lieutenants.
Makes sense.
You can tell with Fred even before he hit some stride with us that he's always very vocal on the pitch. When he was playing shite he always tried to force the issue even if he misplaces the pass 100 times and shows for the ball. This interview doesn't surprise me because his self starting character on the pitch sort of reinforces the words in the interview.
I disagree. A good leader identifies when to take the appropriate action. Yes, Pogba is a bubbly person and does create a good atmosphere, but he also knows when to be serious and lead the team in the right way. I think where we struggle is that we have very few leaders in our team. You need more than one!
You may disagree and use an isolated video but it's not the life of the group as they talked about it themselves. On that video though, one of his narcisstic brother took credit for it, he said that he told Pogba to give the speech.
What do you think of his brothers? Just curious.
Not much, they both have massive egos and will say anything on TV, Radio or written interviews. I don't think that they should be taken seriously though.
That was the type of compliment one makes in order to soften a criticism. He actually said, He is a young coach and he has positives and negatives... Basically, he is attempting to respectfully say that Ole is not the best coach.I can't imagine a player getting away with saying this about Mourinho, or Ferguson or any other top coach.
For extremely average footballers they do seem to have very high opinions of themselves. Think they like getting airtime off their much more talented brother.
I do disagree, and that video is an example of him leading the team in the world cup and not being this 'fun guy' that you alluded to. Whether his brother told him to do it or not, fact is, he did it.
He didn't lead the team in a world cup, he gave a speech as Varane and other also did. And by fun guy, I'm not trying to diminish his role there is no quote needed, I'm literally meaning that he is a fun guy as Fred mentioned in this interview, Pogba is important for a group because he doesn't let the moral of the group reach rock bottom, if I was to give you an example it would be Dani Alves at Barcelona who was allegedly one of the players who would take care of the younger players and the new members of the team, he is fun and easy to interact with, he is also very professional on the training ground. I didn't say that he wasn't a leader at all but that he wasn't the type of leader that set the rules.
Every coach has his positive and negatives.
Based on what?!
Yeah, I feel like some players don't have good footballing relationships on the pitch and probably don't get along outside of it.
I've always shared the opinions that what footballers do in the spare time has nothing to do with us as fans, as long as they are not putting the club in disrepute and they are performing on the pitch.
Based on what players said themselves and Deschamps. The established leaders are the likes of Matuidi, Mandanda and Griezmann, Pogba is a work in progress in that department he grew during the world cup but he wasn't the leader, what he absolutely is, is an important member of the locker room with his positive attitude.
Yeah. But if the problem is a disjointed squad, as Fred says, those types of characters should be able to fix it. I’m guessing that Pogba isn’t able to single-handedly do that. Young was the same (not the captain-like captain, but someone who is very vocal and active socially), Lingard is probably similarly active but I’d expect at least some of the guys to be put off by his extreme childishness (Pogba is a good example of how the same aesthetic can be applied to a more all-rounded personality).
