Please cut out the insults to the “other side”.
Messi in Miami
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In the latest edition of the United Hour Podcast, we interview Duncan Drasdo of MUST - covering ticket prices, new stadium, INEOS and what fans should be demanding from our club.
Also, due to technical issues we couldn't put a notice up for the previous episode which was about the game against Bournemouth and other stuff. If you'd like to listen to it, click here.
At times I feel right now it would be more entertaining to watch entire vids with almost goals, or mere great plays with no assist or goal involve, than the typical vid.
PD: Some plays define players, that 1:55 min play can't be more Messi ro encapsulate him in a single play.
The same happens to me with Diego's goal to River from the Clasico at the Copa NAciolan from 81, I think
PD: Some plays define players, that 1:55 min play can't be more Messi ro encapsulate him in a single play.
The same happens to me with Diego's goal to River from the Clasico at the Copa NAciolan from 81, I think
The world cup final shot at the end (second clip I think), that would have broken the internet
The 70 ft statue in India thing is pretty ridiculous, let's be honest.
Certain places in Asia they go over the top, not only with Messi, with the Argie NT in general.
Quite a new vid:
Pretty par for the course there.
Oh no another "No show"!
More luck finding Wally.
More luck finding Wally.
Why do they seem to have such rabid celebrity worship culture of but seemingly not many that would actually want to play it?
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More people play football professionally than most European countries have in their entire population count. The problem has and always will remain that our base level *everything* to do with the sport is beyond pathetic.
it’s the problem with indians. they were the same angry mob whenever they saw me doing my goat tour of india.
Absolute no other way this was going to go. Should've put money on this being the eventual outcome.
They didn't like seeing your goat out everywhere.
So an organizational/grass root level problem?
Do you see it getting better in the near to mid term future? For example I hadn't registered it but when the world cup draw came on I was befuddled not seeing india in there even with the extended quota.
I wonder what all these Messi and Ronaldo fan werirdos are going to do when the finally retire.
Hopefully the player cult becomes a thing of the past. It's cute when children do it but mortifying to watch adults behave like this.
Hopefully the player cult becomes a thing of the past. It's cute when children do it but mortifying to watch adults behave like this.
They’ll be dropping career stats arguing over who’s the real GOAT long after they’ve retired.
And once they’ve done that for half a decade they’ll start bitching about which of Yamal or Vini has had the best career.
Vini isn't even worth a discussion.
Yamal hasn't done anything of note really yet besides the Euros where he had some good moments.
I don't even know if we've seen a player that can hold a candle to both yet.
You think any of what you're saying is relevant for those muppets?
Lamine Yamal's senior achievements by age 18:
TEAM
Barcelona
La Liga: 2022–23, 2024–25
Copa del Rey: 2024–25
Supercopa de España: 2025
Spain
UEFA European Championship: 2024
UEFA Nations League runner-up: 2024–25
INDIVIDUAL
Ballon d’Or runner-up: 2025
UEFA European Championship top assist provider: 2024 (4 assists)
UEFA European Championship Team of the Tournament: 2024
UEFA European Championship Young Player of the Tournament: 2024
UEFA European Championship Goal of the Tournament: 2024
La Liga U23 Player of the Season: 2023–24, 2024–25
La Liga Player of the Month: September 2024, November 2025
La Liga U23 Player of the Month: August 2023, August 2024, February 2025
La Liga Goal of the Month: March 2024
IFFHS Men's Player of the Month: April 2025
Golden Boy: 2024
Kopa Trophy: 2024, 2025
IFFHS Men's World's Best Youth Player: 2024
Tuttosport's The Youngest Award: 2023
Laureus World Sports Award for Breakthrough of the Year: 2025
FIFA FIFPRO World 11: 2025
The Best FIFA Men's 11: 2024
IFFHS Men's World Team: 2024
IFFHS Men's UEFA Team: 2024
La Liga Team of the Season: 2024–25
UEFA Champions League Team of the Season: 2024–25
The Athletic European Men's Young Player of the Season: 2024–25
The Athletic La Liga Team of the Season: 2024–25
UEFA Nations League Finals top scorer: 2025 (shared)
@TheNewEra : "Meh, nothing of note."
See, one's already started. We just need a Vini fanboy to enter now.
I'm a fan of a club, talking about the club's current most high profile player. Please take that 'fanboy' nonsense somewhere else, that belongs to people who don't support clubs or who support clubs other than the player they are lionising.
This is not an India problem, more like a Kolkata problem. The Hyderabad event went quite well.
Still not won a champion league though, still second best to Vini if we discount Mbappe as he’s new to La Liga.
Vini Jr destroyed Kimmich which we haven’t seen Yamal do yet. Vini is quicker and the better dribbler.
The way he moves with the ball is natural, alot of work to do yet for Yamal.
There's plenty of golden boys and also runner ups to balon dors (which honestly there werent many candidates). It doesn't put them in the discussion of the GOATs.
A lot of your accomplishments are filler, and he was young on a year there was a major tournament in a stacked Spain team that helps. If Spain didn't get out of the group stage a lot of those awards wouldn't be there.
Yamal judge him in 5-6 years.
Messi had consistency for decades, I don't think many players can do that.
Not saying Yamal is shit, I'm saying don't get carried away based on 2 seasons.
I don't get the same feeling from Yamal as I did Messi. But let's wait and see when he turns 23.
We said the same about Mbappe, he's 27 this month.
Nobody had Mpabbe up there with Messi. Only in possibly in being as prolific but not in anything else skillful.
Yamal's entire game is so much more for his age,.but its early.
Some had him winning a few balon dors. I mean this year he and Kane are probably the 2 leaders.
I think Yamal is 18 so he's young but I don't know if he will have the hunger over a sustained period.
Messi at 18 was dribbling around teams and while Yamal is electric I don't think is in the same mould.
Yamal I think as he ages will drop off a bit.
You need genetics, genius, longevity and hunger.
I don't think we will see that again in quite some time.
People assume when you have a young kid they will just keep getting better, but that's rare imo.
I hope we get a new genius of the game because when Messi retires I think it'll be boring.
Not the point. No one is saying he's in the GOAT discussion in 2025. You said that he has accomplished nothing much of note, which is categorically false. He's accomplished more than any player in history by age 18, with the single exception of Pele. That includes both Messi and Ronaldo.
Obviously a long way to go in his career, and no one knows what level he will or will not reach. But let's categorise things properly.
Nothing of note may be a stretch, he's one of the most talented youngsters in the world. For me though I'm not glazing over him yet, balon dor runner up is great but it feels the general level last year was poor (but against his peers at his age it's impressive regardless). Let's wait and see in 5-6 years. I'm hoping he continues to improve because football is too system based now and I miss true individual players there's not many left now.
For me he's a kid he had a great breakout season, this season he's done every better stats wise so for now I'll just hope to see him be injury free.
I mean he isn't even in discussions of Messi and the R name, and he won't even be mentioned in that bracket unless he does this until he's 35. Even then he needs to get to the same base level but this season he is doing better.
Let's wait and see though, plenty of years left.
Some fair points here. I disagree with the bolded part though. It depends what he does, and that goes for other players that come along in the future as well. If he wins and stars in the next 3 World Cups, for example, then he will be mentioned in that bracket long before he's 35. Obviously, that is extremely unlikely to happen, but the point is that he doesn't have to match exactly what Messi and Ronaldo did over 20 years to be reasonably compared to them - there's more than one way to skin a cat.
My guess is that he won't get into that super elite bracket because he's not quite quick enough (pace is so important in football, to an underappreciated degree - Pele, Maradona, Messi and Ronaldo were all fast, to a greater or lesser extent). But an all time great career is certainly possible, if he avoids injury.
Mbappe has won a world cup, I don't think it's enough and he's 27. I think to be in the top top tier it requires a lot more.
Thankfully Yamal is 18 and has a long career ahead of him.
You're both having an extensive discussion about Yamal in the Messi thread. If you wish to continue said discussion, please take it to Yamal's thread. Don't continue it in this one.
Back on topic with the GOAT tour in India, fees seem to show the tour will generate $20m-50m from it, and no football is being played. Bizarre from a player has anything been done like it before?
Besides the stadium tour I found this clip fun, how one of the officials seems to have never kicked a ball in his life
Besides the stadium tour I found this clip fun, how one of the officials seems to have never kicked a ball in his life
Wrong thread
Wow a Messi hater comment
How can someone be that bad at football?
