But you're implying he was a big part of the reason Messi bagged 91 goals, when in actual fact Xavi had already gone backwards and didn't even set himself apart at Euro 2012. You were talking absolute nonsense.
i have no problem arguing with you about ronaldo and messi, but use the word "fanboi" one more time and you will be arguing with your little sister
i'm not going to dignify that with a response, you are a waste of time.
So it's okay for your side to call people Ronaldo fan***, yet we're not allowed to retaliate in kind?
He was voted the 4th best player in the world in 2012, must be all those idiots not having your wisdom that he's "gone".
when did we said "ronaldo fabois"?
Check the old Messi v Ronaldo thread, that was thrown at me ages before I decided to reply in kind.
so, when it suits you, the voting is a valuable argument, but when it doesnt, messi didnt deserve the ballon d'ors ...
Someone said similar to this before (maybe it was you), but it's not quite true is it?
the old messi and ronaldo threads where closed for that same reason
Since apparently the 4 vs 3 is definitive proof that Messi is the better player according to some, I'm just using that argument against them. Anyway, I've always argued about the 2010 Ballon D'Or. Messi fully deserved it in 2012.
Fair enough... no more ***boi then...
okFair enough... no more ***boi then...
fair enough
And continue to argue that the Ballon d'Or means feck all..
Well i would highly debate this years Balon d'or and last years Balon d'or both being given to Ronaldo, Di Maria was Madrid's best player last season and Ronaldo wins it just because he is getting the goals while having little impact on the pitch compared to Di Maria.
Just 2 years ago, they were so so convinced that he was going to win it again and again and again until the end of time, what a difference 2 years makes.
It's absolutely not a bad thing. It's just not something that makes him (or Giggs) a complete player.
It's becoming something of a myth that Ronaldo only scored unimportant goals for Madrid last year, mainly due to the CL final, if you watched most of their games last season, you'd realise that he was clearly the standout player in a very good side.
Indeed!Just 2 years ago, they were so so convinced that he was going to win it again and again and again until the end of time, what a difference 2 years makes.
What do you mean in advance? They extended the voting after the play-off games.
and Pique keeps getting in the team of the year. This year thiago silva and david luiz made that team.
I'm reminded of Timmy from South Park right now.
Touche
Di Maria was still their best player last season regardless of who scored what. He was unbelievable last season and their most consistent player over the season. He even got moved to Centre mid because Bale took his place on the wing and he was fantastic.
What? You mean they stopped the voting before the games and re-opened it after?
He was fantastic, hence the fee we paid for him, but Ronaldo was more important.
No, I mean they re-opened the voting after the game and allowed people to change their votes.What? You mean they stopped the voting before the games and re-opened it after?
I wasn't aware of that, strange that Fifa did something nice for Ronaldo, considering Blatter made it quite clear he sides with the Messi fans.
It's quite possible the shitstorm Blatter caused with his Cristiano comments is the reason the deadline extended. Who knows? Officially they say it was because there was a low turnout...
Interesting... I'd say Ribery deserved it that year, just like Sneijder did in 2010.
While a strong case can be made for Sneijder in 2010, it's important to remember the award is given for the calendar year, not for the season (which would make more sense, tbh). His second half of 2010 was utter gash, while Messi was still going strong that year.
Even then, I'd say Messi still deserved to win it that year. His level hadn't dropped at all from the previous year, he was getting better, and was widely considered to be the best footballer in the world.
As much as i love Messi, Sneijder was the one still deserved it that year. Messi was the best player in the world but Sneijder did the treble with Inter and was their best player also getting to a WC final.
That was Modric. Di Maria didn't really get going (ie consistently play at a world class level) until February (despite being very good beforehand but not as consistently). Over the whole season Modric was the best player due to Ronaldo missing games due to injury.
