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I dont feel this game is getting attention it deserves. Its sitting at 94 on metacritic. Im about 40 hours in and still loving it. It keeps the best from Atlus while cutting the tedious filler. And its a new IP. So far its my GOTY.
 
I'm waiting til payday to buy. Loved Persona 5 and by all accounts this is an improvement on that.
 
Got over 200 hours now, almost done with ng+.
I don't think it's GOTY material, but it's a refreshing change of pace from Atlus.
 
Will have to pick this up. Been meaning to play Persona for ages. They're the type of games that I'd love but never tried.
 
For a second I thought that I was in the football forum and that Metaphor Refantazio is a player we're linked with :lol:
 
Completed it a few weeks ago and it's just behind Astro Bot as my GoTY but it was a fantastic game.

The job system reminds me a little of FF V with the mix and match abilities.
 
Amazing game, I felt the end started to drag a bit - especially the companion relationship building. But overall, a great game. It was my introduction to Atlus games, I have since bought Persona 5 but will wait a bit before jumping into that.
 
Amazing game, I felt the end started to drag a bit - especially the companion relationship building. But overall, a great game. It was my introduction to Atlus games, I have since bought Persona 5 but will wait a bit before jumping into that.
100%. I loved the game but

the final dungeon and the hour long cutscene/epilogue almost had me shouting at the screen "just let me go!".
 
Amazing game, I felt the end started to drag a bit - especially the companion relationship building. But overall, a great game. It was my introduction to Atlus games, I have since bought Persona 5 but will wait a bit before jumping into that.
Glad it was a drag just around the end as for me Persona 5 became that half way through.
 
I brought this I think 2 weeks ago and am 8 or so hours into it. Don’t get a lot of chance to play it but I really like it so far. It obviously borrows a lot from Persona 5 and SMTV, but improves upon it in some ways like the archetype system which is great in my opinion. One thing I will say is that P5 felt a lot easier in comparison based on the first boss.
 
I'm waiting til payday to buy. Loved Persona 5 and by all accounts this is an improvement on that.
Maybe on P5, but Royal is an improvement on P5 to the point where it’s basically the perfect modern JRPG!

I’d say this is enough of its own thing to not need direct comparisons. Kinda like comparing a GTA with a Red Dead, if that makes sense. It has a lot of similar gameplay elements but then does a lot of things quite differently as well and in a different world so feels quite different.

It’s a great game!
 
Maybe on P5, but Royal is an improvement on P5 to the point where it’s basically the perfect modern JRPG!

I’d say this is enough of its own thing to not need direct comparisons. Kinda like comparing a GTA with a Red Dead, if that makes sense. It has a lot of similar gameplay elements but then does a lot of things quite differently as well and in a different world so feels quite different.

It’s a great game!
You once rated HIMYM above Always Sunny so I can’t trust you anymore.
 
Maybe on P5, but Royal is an improvement on P5 to the point where it’s basically the perfect modern JRPG!

I’d say this is enough of its own thing to not need direct comparisons. Kinda like comparing a GTA with a Red Dead, if that makes sense. It has a lot of similar gameplay elements but then does a lot of things quite differently as well and in a different world so feels quite different.

It’s a great game!
Is P5 Royal worth playing if you've completed the base game of Persona 5? I read it has improvements and 30+ hours of content but P5 is already a very long game.
 
Is P5 Royal worth playing if you've completed the base game of Persona 5? I read it has improvements and 30+ hours of content but P5 is already a very long game.
This is why I never played Royal. It’s so long that I can’t really every justify playing it again in any form.
 
Is P5 Royal worth playing if you've completed the base game of Persona 5? I read it has improvements and 30+ hours of content but P5 is already a very long game.
I did it and loved it but that was with a 4 year gap. I’m inclined to say no unless you really want to replay p5 anyway because all the new content is after the base game.

You once rated HIMYM above Always Sunny so I can’t trust you anymore.
That’s fair :lol:
 
Thanks for the replies, might give P5 Royal a miss for a few years and play it sometime in the future.
 
I played P5 Royal briefly and while I enjoyed it I also found it quite tedious. Also found it very weird, especially with the first boss being an actual nonce.i never really got further than that.

Anyway, I was intrigued by this, downloaded the prologue and the story kind of interests but the pacing feels really weird. Like, cutscenes will just come out of nowhere it feels.
 
Come on, it's better than Wukong!
No chance.
I think for me, this year, it goes to one of BM: Wukong, Our Adventurer Guild (indie game, absolutely loved it), Dragons Dogma 2 or FF7 Rebirth. Depending on if Elden Ring DLC counts or not, as that gets it if I include DLCs.
 
Not a huge fan of persona so was skeptical going in. Loving it so far.
 
Okay maybe goty is a bit over the top, i think it is just a welcome change of scenery after being terrified of playing Silent hill 2 remake for about 15 days. Still despite despite FF7 rebirth and Zelda having all the production values and stuff im just enjoying this more.
 
Okay maybe goty is a bit over the top, i think it is just a welcome change of scenery after being terrified of playing Silent hill 2 remake for about 15 days. Still despite despite FF7 rebirth and Zelda having all the production values and stuff im just enjoying this more.
Zelda has production values?
 
Think I’m over half way through, it’s awesome.

It might sound harsh on the Persona games, as they are some of my favourite ever games, especially p4g and p5, but how focused this is really highlights how much fluff is in them with the high school simulator stuff. Every day in this feels meaningful whereas persona has so many annoying days where you can’t do shit or a full week of exams or whatever.

I also like how this doesn’t punish your social
Interactions through the wrong answer and progresses them anyway.
 
Im seriously underlevelled for the late game bosses. Not really should what i should have done. I tackle the main quests asap but i guess that ends up giving you less time. Grinding lvls in dungeons becomes tedious if you keep at long after besting the dungeon boss.
 
Im seriously underlevelled for the late game bosses. Not really should what i should have done. I tackle the main quests asap but i guess that ends up giving you less time. Grinding lvls in dungeons becomes tedious if you keep at long after besting the dungeon boss.
that's interesting, it's the way I've been doing it too. Always seemed the best idea in Persona games in order to maximize time with social links followers. I have been doing all the side content too and don't seem particularly underleveled right now.
 
that's interesting, it's the way I've been doing it too. Always seemed the best idea in Persona games in order to maximize time with social links followers. I have been doing all the side content too and don't seem particularly underleveled right now.

I dont think you've the late game bosses yet. I was doing fine untill i hit the 1st late game boss. According to a guide i was under 10 lvls beneath the recommended and my archetypes no where close or not unlocked. Will probably do a ng+ some time after im done because i couldn't get past them without turning down the difficulty to easy and it feels unsatisfactory.

And it feels like satisfactory game for ng+ apart from some tedious dungeons.
 
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I also like how this doesn’t punish your social
Interactions through the wrong answer and progresses them anyway.
I really like that. I've been replaying the Persona 4/5 and been looking at a guide like a weirdo to maximize points. Glad I did it for my first playthrough of Persona 3 though because some of those answers they expect you to get right is fecking absurd.
Im seriously underlevelled for the late game bosses. Not really should what i should have done. I tackle the main quests asap but i guess that ends up giving you less time. Grinding lvls in dungeons becomes tedious if you keep at long after besting the dungeon boss.
Not on you, I've seen multiple people take up issue with it. Makes me dread getting there as i've been playing on hard and have mixed feelings on this battle system.
 
Up until now I’ve thought the pacing was good but I swear I’ve just spent the last two hours watching cutscenes and it’s giving me annoying persona 5 vibes. Around when you kill but don’t kill Louis
 
Up until now I’ve thought the pacing was good but I swear I’ve just spent the last two hours watching cutscenes and it’s giving me annoying persona 5 vibes. Around when you kill but don’t kill Louis

Agree. Its they´ve decided to add 20 hours that arent needed. Its still better paced than Persona 5 but they are dragging it out.
 
Up until now I’ve thought the pacing was good but I swear I’ve just spent the last two hours watching cutscenes and it’s giving me annoying persona 5 vibes. Around when you kill but don’t kill Louis
Yeah I think that's generally agreed where the plot goes a bit too silly and the pacing starts to fall flat. I absolutely loved this game but the last 10 hours or so were a bit of a slog.

I'd still be pleased to see it winning GOTY though.
 
I'm about 40 hours in so far. I love the versatility in teambuilding. Its the main reason why I prefer the SMT series over Persona and going in I expected something of the same as Persona or more in line with Digital Devil Saga, but the option to unlock basically every skill on every character is very nice!

Also loving the quick teleports to certain places and to your confidants/followers. The autosaves when you grab a chest or item. There's a lot of little QOL decisions they've made that I appreciate. I really like the story and worldbuilding so far, although I'm starting to get SMT 4 vibes where I'm at right now. Without trying to spoil anything, I hope they still stick to "their" world for the rest of the game.

This game is amazing and for somewhat of a dungeon crawling game they do add enough diversity in all of those. The ones in the main missions often feel more in line with the palaces of P5 without it being too long or overbearing. I also never get the sense that I HAVE to finish it in one go unlike the other games, but maybe that's just me personally. For the side ones they're usually just long enough and going from towers to caves to open fields for instance is enough of a difference to keep me engaged.

Lastly, I'm very glad they took a more "mature" approach with the characters. As a almost 30yo man I couldn't be arsed with the high school stuff most of the time. I like having older teammates and Heismay's story was very impactful.

Edit: I also love seeing the same people from the Fromsoft games threads also enjoying these games and posting here!
 
Im seriously underlevelled for the late game bosses. Not really should what i should have done. I tackle the main quests asap but i guess that ends up giving you less time. Grinding lvls in dungeons becomes tedious if you keep at long after besting the dungeon boss.

AFAIK it doesn't give you less time. Just make sure you build around every boss before going in so you get max amount of turn icons via weaknesses + prioritize buffs and debuffs. Also try to use appropriate archetypes to ones stats. Some give better DPS to certain roles than others! If a boss has no weaknesses try sticking to debuffing and maybe build for hitting melee crits.
 
Happy Metaphor day to me. It's on sale so I got it for £45 as well.