Michael Carrick - Head Coach for the remainder of the season

Anustart89 said:
An ambitious appointment would be any manager that the club has identified has a style of play which is compatible with the long-term vision of the club hierarchy and who's shown the ability to implement that in his team. Carrick was clearly an interim option appointed on the basis of 1) being out of a job and 2) used to play for Manchester United. Are those the criteria for being the permanent manager of Manchester United?

There's nothing about his stint at Boro saying he's a long term manager for Manchester United, and there's not much about what we've seen on the pitch in terms of either style of play or quality that indicates he's going to take us to the level we aspire to be at. He's still riding on the two initial games where we could absorb pressure and counter-attack, and since then the performances have been pretty mediocre while picking up enough points to put us in a good position in the table.

Yeah, they can spend 300m and give him better players which is going to improve the general level of the team when everyone's available, but there's not really a tactical approach beyond "go out there and have fun and solve the problems amongst yourselves".

I've said all along that if there's no suitable candidate out there (in the board's view) the maximum they should offer Carrick is another year while they sound out actual long-term options, and this is a process that should've started the second they fired Amorim. But it looks like they're placing every single egg in the Carrick basket without sounding out any potential managerial hires on the assumption we're going to make the CL. If that's not Iraola or Alonso or Nagelsmann then wait another year, but please for the love of god don't give him a three-year deal so we have to deal with the added sentimentality of when to part ways with an ex-player.

And what if our results start catching up with our performances and we drop out of the top 5? Start looking for managers at the end of May just before the WC? Yeah, clearly the hallmarks of a club structure with a plan..
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Agreed. Carrick should be interim for one more year if ww don not find a suitable candidate. Seems like Ole and Carrick learnt from Fergie only how to play on the counter and nothing else.
 
Alex99 said:
So who is the "ambitious" hire then?

There's no difference between Iraola and someone like Potter before he left Brighton.

I'd say Alonso's Madrid exit is a massive black mark on his CV.

I just don't get the Nagelsmann hype at all.



I don't care about the board's view. I want your view on what makes Iraola, Alonso or Nagelsmann hires that indicate ambition?

I'm not even particularly "Carrick In". I agree he's the "safe and easy" option, but given there's almost universal acknowledgement that there isn't a safe pair of hands to take over from him, maybe "safe and easy" is the sensible option, at least in the short-term? Who knows, maybe he'll grow into the job very quickly? That said, I wouldn't be at all bothered if we went with a more established name for next season, even if I think pretty much every option comes with its own risks.

I also agree that there have been obvious issues with the running of the club, despite the new structure.

However, I think a lot of your view is based on pessimistic conjecture. We don't know who the club has or hasn't spoken to about the job, or indeed how the rest of the season will play out. However, you (and some others) have convinced yourself that we're going to limp to the end of the season, that the club has been sat doing nothing about the managerial position because they've already decided Carrick is getting the job, and that we're going to find ourselves scrambling around, unprepared, come the end of May, trying to decide who should be our manager for the 2026/27 season.

Ulimately, it's quite telling that everyone eager to shit on Carrick and/or the club (potentially) deciding to hire him permanently is unable to actually commit themselves to a clear choice to take over in the summer.
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But that’s the thing. I’m not going to give you my opinion as to who to hire because it’s not my job to interview candidates and I don’t make the long term strategy at United. Then you’re going to say ”aha, gotcha!”

The issue is that the people who actually have it in their job description to set the long term strategy, to decide which way to play football at the club, are seemingly doing feck all to steer the club towards that strategy and are just waiting to see if Carrick gets in the top 5 before deciding whether he’s the long term plan at the club when realistically he was nowhere near it just three months ago until Amorim had a go at the board in a press conference.

That’s the very opposite of having a long term plan. Now if the club really wanted the 352 style they’d immediately be looking at managers suited for that style like Conte, Alonso and others. If they want a high pressing style of play they can look at Iraola or Nagelsmann, but their whole plan seems to be top 5 = hire, 6th or worse = don’t hire, while also not making any ground work towards one of the eventualities.
 
Carrick seems nailed on to get the job, but can't shake off the feeling this is another inept decision by this board. So far they have proven themselves a lot better in removing deadwood and getting new players on more sensible wages, but as far as managerial appointments they have been nothing short of disgraceful.

First they have given a contract extension to Ten Hag after the worst season in my lifetime I can remember because he fluked a cup win and they got pressured by the fans and media, after clearly leaking weeks ago that he is a dead man walking. After spending the summer signing players for him, they sacked him early into next season and brought a guy from Portugal that plays completely different tactics not well suited for our team and very rigid in his approach. We "suffered" under Amorim dross football for the whole season, while using the next two transfer windows getting rid of wingers and getting players better suited for his 3-4-3 system, only to sack him midseason, but not because of his shit results and dross football but because he bruised the fragile egos of the board members with his comments.

Now here we are with Michael Carrick appointed as an interim till the end of the season, a failed M'boro manager, fluked a nice run of form and is reverting to the mean in the last few weeks being the main frontrunner to get the job. When we take out the Man City game which was amazing, I don't really see any improvement in Carricks United compared to Amorims. I see better luck in finishing chances in key moments and better defensive structure mainly because Lammens has settled in and Maguire was fit and available. Other than that the team is creating less chances than under Amorim and stats back it up.

There is basically zero pressure on Carrick as he is interim but things will change massively if he is appointed permanent and also has CL football next season. Once luck starts to go against him and games are coming in thick and fast every few days, I feel the wheels will come off very early next season and it will be another shit season down the drain. You can't be a serious club wanting to contend for top prizes and appoint Michael Carrick to lead the way. He is simply out of depth.
 
BvG said:
Carrick seems nailed on to get the job, but can't shake off the feeling this is another inept decision by this board. So far they have proven themselves a lot better in removing deadwood and getting new players on more sensible wages, but as far as managerial appointments they have been nothing short of disgraceful.

First they have given a contract extension to Ten Hag after the worst season in my lifetime I can remember because he fluked a cup win and they got pressured by the fans and media, after clearly leaking weeks ago that he is a dead man walking. After spending the summer signing players for him, they sacked him early into next season and brought a guy from Portugal that plays completely different tactics not well suited for our team and very rigid in his approach. We "suffered" under Amorim dross football for the whole season, while using the next two transfer windows getting rid of wingers and getting players better suited for his 3-4-3 system, only to sack him midseason, but not because of his shit results and dross football but because he bruised the fragile egos of the board members with his comments.

Now here we are with Michael Carrick appointed as an interim till the end of the season, a failed M'boro manager, fluked a nice run of form and is reverting to the mean in the last few weeks being the main frontrunner to get the job. When we take out the Man City game which was amazing, I don't really see any improvement in Carricks United compared to Amorims. I see better luck in finishing chances in key moments and better defensive structure mainly because Lammens has settled in and Maguire was fit and available. Other than that the team is creating less chances than under Amorim and stats back it up.

There is basically zero pressure on Carrick as he is interim but things will change massively if he is appointed permanent and also has CL football next season. Once luck starts to go against him and games are coming in thick and fast every few days, I feel the wheels will come off very early next season and it will be another shit season down the drain. You can't be a serious club wanting to contend for top prizes and appoint Michael Carrick to lead the way. He is simply out of depth.
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I think you make a good point there about the pressure once permanent. If nothing else, surely it makes good sense to have a few other candidates in mind but I think the board has its mind made up.
 
BvG said:
Carrick seems nailed on to get the job, but can't shake off the feeling this is another inept decision by this board. So far they have proven themselves a lot better in removing deadwood and getting new players on more sensible wages, but as far as managerial appointments they have been nothing short of disgraceful.

First they have given a contract extension to Ten Hag after the worst season in my lifetime I can remember because he fluked a cup win and they got pressured by the fans and media, after clearly leaking weeks ago that he is a dead man walking. After spending the summer signing players for him, they sacked him early into next season and brought a guy from Portugal that plays completely different tactics not well suited for our team and very rigid in his approach. We "suffered" under Amorim dross football for the whole season, while using the next two transfer windows getting rid of wingers and getting players better suited for his 3-4-3 system, only to sack him midseason, but not because of his shit results and dross football but because he bruised the fragile egos of the board members with his comments.

Now here we are with Michael Carrick appointed as an interim till the end of the season, a failed M'boro manager, fluked a nice run of form and is reverting to the mean in the last few weeks being the main frontrunner to get the job. When we take out the Man City game which was amazing, I don't really see any improvement in Carricks United compared to Amorims. I see better luck in finishing chances in key moments and better defensive structure mainly because Lammens has settled in and Maguire was fit and available. Other than that the team is creating less chances than under Amorim and stats back it up.

There is basically zero pressure on Carrick as he is interim but things will change massively if he is appointed permanent and also has CL football next season. Once luck starts to go against him and games are coming in thick and fast every few days, I feel the wheels will come off very early next season and it will be another shit season down the drain. You can't be a serious club wanting to contend for top prizes and appoint Michael Carrick to lead the way. He is simply out of depth.
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Agree.

I also think you'd have another situation, where they won't fire him, even if results and performances become untenable again. Simply because they don't want to fire a "club legend". Solskjaer should've been gone after the Europa League final. Out of some failed romanticism he wasn't and not even 6 months later he was sacked anyways, which ushered in pretty much the worst sequence of failed managers in my lifetime. And every single one of them was sacked far too late for no discernible rhyme or reason too.
 
It's funny but those most in favour of keeping Carrick were the lot who didn't even want him as interim. They're the Ole crowd who were throwing tantrums about people not wanting him. So they now suddenly think he's the best candidate available based on a very short run of games. Heck why not Ole?

I know I'd find lots of posts saying calm down the interim won't automatically get the job from these same folk. If they had self-reflection they'd realise their bias isn't judgement based.

The club shouldn't even be dangling the prospect of a permanent job as it'll just end up with him deemed as rejected. He's doing a decent job as an interim, talk that up and move on. This permanent hire talk is damaging, it's why we should never hire ex players.
 
Anustart89 said:
But that’s the thing. I’m not going to give you my opinion as to who to hire because it’s not my job to interview candidates and I don’t make the long term strategy at United. Then you’re going to say ”aha, gotcha!”

The issue is that the people who actually have it in their job description to set the long term strategy, to decide which way to play football at the club, are seemingly doing feck all to steer the club towards that strategy and are just waiting to see if Carrick gets in the top 5 before deciding whether he’s the long term plan at the club when realistically he was nowhere near it just three months ago until Amorim had a go at the board in a press conference.

That’s the very opposite of having a long term plan. Now if the club really wanted the 352 style they’d immediately be looking at managers suited for that style like Conte, Alonso and others. If they want a high pressing style of play they can look at Iraola or Nagelsmann, but their whole plan seems to be top 5 = hire, 6th or worse = don’t hire, while also not making any ground work towards one of the eventualities.
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Amorim was a mistake. I'm not arguing that. We shouldn't have hired him if he was going to dogmatically stick to his system (although there are many reports that he told them he'd definitely not do that), and we definitely should have binned him after we finished 15th and he lost the Europa League final to that Spurs team.

However, Conte in particular is worlds apart from Amorim. The system goes far deeper than "3-5-2".

Again, I think you're basing a lot on pessimistic conjecture that the club are just doing nothing until the season is over.

I also think it's laughable that you're going on about "ambition" and can't even commit yourself to naming a single manager you think we should go for that would display the "ambition" you've already decided the club is lacking.
 
Would people keep him while we clean rest of our dros and try next year with Luis Enrique?
Who ever we hire, some of our players will always let us down (Dalot, Shaw, Martinez ect.) Carrick probably, imho, wouldn't make a lot of noise, so we fix MF and next year DF and then we have a proper go at Luis Enrique (if we doesnt improve, idk, maybe 12 points).
 
I think he should be judged on performances more than results. And performances have been poor since the first two matches, and the first match was better than the second. He's not shown any invention other than reinstalling Mainoo to the lineup and moving Bruno into his correct position. He doesn't react quick enough in matches and we simply do not play good football.

When Bruno said recently that anyone can have a decent spell like we had in Carrick's first matches, it was exactly it, a spell. And it also seems to encapsulate Bruno's form. For a while it was sensational and now it's getting back to what it has been like the previous couple of years, great stats and very mercurial performances. And it applies to almost all the squad, which is concerning.
 
Think we'll find out more after the next couple of games, if Mainoo is still out and Harry's suspension gets extended we'll effectively have the same sort of starting line up Amorim had in his last run of games. Will he make changes like dropping Bruno back into midfield alongside Cas, play Dalot at LB and move Shaw to LCB to partner Yoro with Maz on the right, that would probably unsettle everything. Or keep it more consistent by just leaving Ugarte in and brining in Heaven, would assume Mbuemo will replace Sesko v Chelsea as we'll be set up to counter attack.
 
The problem with Carricky us that he is a 1 trick pony. There's no plan B in his game. It was an issue at Middlesbrough and it's an issue with us
 
devilish said:
The problem with Carricky us that he is a 1 trick pony. There's no plan B in his game. It was an issue at Middlesbrough and it's an issue with us
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At least his 1 trick has been better than Amorim's and is getting us results. My only question is whether the improvement in his results are based upon the foundations laid by Amorim. The danger being the squad begins to forget the good things as time passes, without Carrick bringing his own good things into play. Sort of how Arsene Wenger built on the solid foundation of George Graham's defensive solidity. And their defence got progressively worse with time.
 
Kellyiom said:
I think you make a good point there about the pressure once permanent. If nothing else, surely it makes good sense to have a few other candidates in mind but I think the board has its mind made up.
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Yeah it's why I'm firmly INEOS out because yet again they have made another decision based on sentiment
 
Marcus said:
At least his 1 trick has been better than Amorim's and is getting us results. My only question is whether the improvement in his results are based upon the foundations laid by Amorim. The danger being the squad begins to forget the good things as time passes, without Carrick bringing his own good things into play. Sort of how Arsene Wenger built on the solid foundation of George Graham's defensive solidity. And their defence got progressively worse with time.
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I don't think that's remotely reflective of what happened at Arsenal. Graham had been gone 18 months by the time Wenger came in, and the wheels didn't really start coming off for another eight or so years.

The problem at Arsenal was that (partly due to the stadium costs) they became obsessed with signing cheap, youngsters, and ended up with a squad severely lacking in experience. This affected the whole squad, not just the defense.

In the four years after the "invincibles" season, they lost Keown, Parlour, Kanu, Wiltord, Edu, Vieira, Bergkamp, Pires, Campbell, Cygan, Cole, Lauren, Henry and Ljungberg.

Their signings in that time were van Persie (20), Flamini (20), Eboue (21), Bendtner (17), Mannone (17), Traore (15), Diaby (19), Adebayor (21), Walcott (16), Song (19), Denilson (18), Fabianksi (22), Nordtveit (17) and Diarra (22), with only Alumunia (27), Hleb (24), Poom (33), Rosicky (25), Gallas (29), Eduardo (24) and Sagna (24) having any real experience. Even then, two were back up keepers (one of which would leave during the time frame) and three were under 25.
 
croadyman said:
Yeah it's why I'm firmly INEOS out because yet again they have made another decision based on sentiment
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Ratcliffe once said it's "better to walk to the right decision then run to the wrong one". About time he started taking his own advice.
 
Marcus said:
At least his 1 trick has been better than Amorim's and is getting us results. My only question is whether the improvement in his results are based upon the foundations laid by Amorim. The danger being the squad begins to forget the good things as time passes, without Carrick bringing his own good things into play. Sort of how Arsene Wenger built on the solid foundation of George Graham's defensive solidity. And their defence got progressively worse with time.
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A drunk devilish with your good self as assistant would do better then Amorim and I'm not even joking
 
Smores said:
It's funny but those most in favour of keeping Carrick were the lot who didn't even want him as interim. They're the Ole crowd who were throwing tantrums about people not wanting him. So they now suddenly think he's the best candidate available based on a very short run of games. Heck why not Ole?

I know I'd find lots of posts saying calm down the interim won't automatically get the job from these same folk. If they had self-reflection they'd realise their bias isn't judgement based.

The club shouldn't even be dangling the prospect of a permanent job as it'll just end up with him deemed as rejected. He's doing a decent job as an interim, talk that up and move on. This permanent hire talk is damaging, it's why we should never hire ex players.
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Its the crowd who never want to get rid of any manager. As soon as we announced an interim you just knew they would want them kept permanent
 
Yeah remember him saying about wanting to implement playing style then just picks ex Utd player to please fanbase
 
By his own good work he's created a whole new scenario. If he doesn't get us CL football he won't be in the job next season.
 
Honestly, I'd put the blame on the players as much as the manager. Carrick obviously isn't the manager to return us to the promised land, but these players continually disappoint regardless of the manager.
 
KiD MoYeS said:
Honestly, I'd put the blame on the players as much as the manager. Carrick obviously isn't the manager to return us to the promised land, but these players continually disappoint regardless of the manager.
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Agree.
We have some low IQ players, who can learn basics. Kick the ball up field, don't make stupid fouls/yellows, don't fall for dirty tactics ect. You can't coach a stupid.
That is I don't have any hope regardless of manager. Only if we can bag one of the WC pedigree. Enrique, Klopp, Ancelotti, Conte... It is baffling how our managers appointments are so bad.
 
According to Andy Mitten, CL means Carrick gets the job. We could easily stumble to a fifth place finish; would that really justify giving him the job?
 
kerrygold said:
Article in Daily Mail ( I know) today stated club was ready to appoint MC before Iraola announced he won’t be returning. Who knows.
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It’s almost like they are surprised by the Iraola announcement…
 
FortunaUtd said:
Whether he gets the job or not long term, he's been a wonderful interim appointment.
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I think that’s fair but what I fear is an emotional response by either party. As I’ve said before there’s absolutely nothing wrong with the board saying to Carrick “you did a great job as an interim but we’re looking to the future at winning titles and we’re picking another manager we feel give us a better chance”. Carrick goes off having done his job prospects a lot of good and can get more experience elsewhere. Everyone wins.

It’s the emotional response of the fans, the media and the board that scares me: The feeling that he HAS to get the job based on what was clearly defined as an interim appointment because of a Champions league finish. I wouldn’t be shocked at INEOS doing this.
 
jem said:
According to Andy Mitten, CL means Carrick gets the job. We could easily stumble to a fifth place finish; would that really justify giving him the job?
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Oh god! See my post above :lol:
 
Steve Bruce said:
That i agree on. He gave stability and results so far

But he's not the man to be a permanent manager in my opinion.
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He should prove himself to be one of the best managers in the world or show that potential.

Fergie and Klopp and Jose and Rafa did that before they got big jobs.

I know Zidane and Pep didn't but they're exceptions.
 
next_number_seven said:
He should prove himself to be one of the best managers in the world or show that potential.

Fergie and Klopp and Jose and Rafa did that before they got big jobs.

I know Zidane and Pep didn't but they're exceptions.
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So who do we hire then?

The top names in the manager poll are either almost certainly unobtainable (Enrique, Tuchel, Ancelotti), simply not "one of the best managers in the world or show that potential" (Emery), not really much different to Ten Hag/Amorim in terms of gambling on brief success (Nagelsmann/Alonso), or a bloke who's done alright with Bournemouth (Iraola).

The criteria people come up with remain impossible to meet.
 
I’ve mixed feelings on Carrick. We looked great against City and Arsenal and then we lost Dorgu and have had no left sided attackers available. That’s messed with our shape and made us more predictable.

Leeds was a low point but that’s as much to do with squad and injuries. Martinez and Yoro was not a good partnership neither was Ugarte and Case. That’s not necessarily Carrick’s fault as I don’t know who else you put out there.

When we’ve had the right personnel we’ve looked solid with slick passing and attacks coming from both flanks.

I think the next three matches will make it clear if he has the capabilities to lead United. We’ll play three teams vying for CL spots so if we come out in good standing then he probably deserves a shot next season with an improved and more balanced squad.

Iraola and Glasner don’t fill me with confidence. It’s a big step to manage a team competing in 4 cups. Thomas Frank failed despite having a similar pedigree. Neither of them guarantee success and would be a gamble.

Giving Carrick another season where he’s coaching a team based on what’s available might be the better bet than having a manager come in and changing tact yet again.
 
Alex99 said:
So who do we hire then?

The top names in the manager poll are either almost certainly unobtainable (Enrique, Tuchel, Ancelotti), simply not "one of the best managers in the world or show that potential" (Emery), not really much different to Ten Hag/Amorim in terms of gambling on brief success (Nagelsmann/Alonso), or a bloke who's done alright with Bournemouth (Iraola).

The criteria people come up with remain impossible to meet.
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Emery is a brilliant manager.

Personally, I'd go for Iraola.

It's a gamble but worth it I think.

I think he's the next Klopp.

I think Enrique will only leave PSG for Barca or City.

He has a brilliant young team so no reason to leave anyway.

I don't know much about Nagelsman to me honest.

Flick would be a good option if he's fired this summer.

Alonso I think will go to Liverpool.
 
next_number_seven said:
Emery is a brilliant manager.

Personally, I'd go for Iraola.

It's a gamble but worth it I think.

I think he's the next Klopp.

I think Enrique will only leave PSG for Barca or City.

He has a brilliant young team so no reason to leave anyway.

I don't know much about Nagelsman to me honest.

Flick would be a good option if he's fired this summer.

Alonso I think will go to Liverpool.
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Emery is a decent manager for a Europa League/sometimes Champions League level club. He is not "one of the best managers in the world".

I just don't really see why Iraola is much less of a gamble than Carrick. Managing AEK Larnaca, Mirandes, Rayo Vallecano and Bournemouth is hardly similar to winning Bundesliga and reaching a CL final with Borussia Dortmund. Glasner was being talked up massively when Amorim was fired, and his stock has already plummeted. What separates Iraola from him?

Why would Flick be fired? He's on course to win a second La Liga title in as many seasons, with a Barcelona side barely able to spend any money.

I'll accept that Carrick is definitely the "safe" and/or "easy" option for the board, but that might just be the sensible choice at this time.
 
Irwin99 said:
I think that’s fair but what I fear is an emotional response by either party. As I’ve said before there’s absolutely nothing wrong with the board saying to Carrick “you did a great job as an interim but we’re looking to the future at winning titles and we’re picking another manager we feel give us a better chance”. Carrick goes off having done his job prospects a lot of good and can get more experience elsewhere. Everyone wins.

It’s the emotional response of the fans, the media and the board that scares me: The feeling that he HAS to get the job based on what was clearly defined as an interim appointment because of a Champions league finish. I wouldn’t be shocked at INEOS doing this.
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Yeah that's exactly my thoughts and just as I suspected they are making yet another managerial mistake just like Ten Hag in 2024. Learnt absolutely nothing from that, however not in the least bit surprised sentimentality has got in the way of decision making.
 
Alex99 said:
So who do we hire then?

The top names in the manager poll are either almost certainly unobtainable (Enrique, Tuchel, Ancelotti), simply not "one of the best managers in the world or show that potential" (Emery), not really much different to Ten Hag/Amorim in terms of gambling on brief success (Nagelsmann/Alonso), or a bloke who's done alright with Bournemouth (Iraola).

The criteria people come up with remain impossible to meet.
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Forget about united for a minute.

Summer last season at what level would you put Carrick? Of all the managers in the Premier league and ones you have mentioned in this thread?

I personally wouldn't have even thought of Carrick as being premier league level let alone a top candidate for United.

This was the problem with getting an ex player in. We get a new manager bounce and people get carried away with it.

Emery would be one I'd pick. I think he'd elevate the team and he would have a club not selling his players every season to balance the books which would be something he's never had before.

I don't think any manager is a guaranteed success under the ownership but realistically right now I think he's as good as it gets. I think we'd be a regular champions league team with him and that in of itself is a great improvement over what we have endured since Sir Alex retired. We have yo yo'd in and out. If we can become a bonafide CL team then we would open the market for the elite managers (if emery doesn't prove to be one)
 
Alex99 said:
Emery is a decent manager for a Europa League/sometimes Champions League level club. He is not "one of the best managers in the world".

I just don't really see why Iraola is much less of a gamble than Carrick. Managing AEK Larnaca, Mirandes, Rayo Vallecano and Bournemouth is hardly similar to winning Bundesliga and reaching a CL final with Borussia Dortmund. Glasner was being talked up massively when Amorim was fired, and his stock has already plummeted. What separates Iraola from him?

Why would Flick be fired? He's on course to win a second La Liga title in as many seasons, with a Barcelona side barely able to spend any money.

I'll accept that Carrick is definitely the "safe" and/or "easy" option for the board, but that might just be the sensible choice at this time.
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Bournemouth are a small club albeit with good recruitment.

If you dig deep into the data for pressing stats and chance creation, they're very impressive.

That's good coaching that if you translate to better players means better results.

That's why I'd go for Iraola.

Klopp did brilliant with Dortmund but they're a very big club. They've 2nd highest revenue in Germany.

Emery would almost certainly have us top 4 every year. His fundamentals are solid. We'd probably reach latter stages of CL also. That should be the minimum requirement but we haven't had that for years.

I think he's very ambitious also so would like a go at a big club. No offence to Villa.

Carrick started well but performances have dropped.

Barca lost to Athletic in the CL.

La Liga is a given when Real Madrid have a bad season.

So Flick isn't guaranteed to keep his job.
 
Steve Bruce said:
Forget about united for a minute.

Summer last season at what level would you put Carrick? Of all the managers in the Premier league and ones you have mentioned in this thread?

I personally wouldn't have even thought of Carrick as being premier league level let alone a top candidate for United.

This was the problem with getting an ex player in. We get a new manager bounce and people get carried away with it.

Emery would be one I'd pick. I think he'd elevate the team and he would have a club not selling his players every season to balance the books which would be something he's never had before.

I don't think any manager is a guaranteed success under the ownership but realistically right now I think he's as good as it gets. I think we'd be a regular champions league team with him and that in of itself is a great improvement over what we have endured since Sir Alex retired. We have yo yo'd in and out. If we can become a bonafide CL team then we would open the market for the elite managers (if emery doesn't prove to be one)
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Agree on Emery.

Solid option.

I think he'd have us Top 4 and latter stages of CL every season.
 
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