Michael Carrick - Head Coach for the remainder of the season

"I have total belief in their talents, dedication and ability to be successful here." Does he even watch us? Proper PR statement that because there's no way he thinks this team is dedicated to improving because a lot of them have stagnated for seasons on end while picking up fat cheques with no improvements to fundamental weaknesses. We habitually hold on to awful players for way longer than other clubs would, some of them get five years plus when it's been obvious they aren't league winning calibre players from their first season

This squad won't get top four under any interim so I just hope Carrick at least has some fun with it while he's here. Absolutely zero chance this squad fights for a top four spot without throwing points away. Nothing will change until the summer (hopefully).
 
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He avoided the question when he got asked about his philosophy. Does he have 1? Alls he said was we want to win games and theirs different ways of doing it.
 
Maybe they have someone lined up for the summer. Was quite a specific time frame. You'd hope there isn't a long winded, back and forth process when we reach June
 
Really looking forward to seeing what he can do, and hope he gets it full time beyond this season.
 
He's got 17 games, if he wins over a third of them he already beats Amorim's win rate. The bar has never been lower. If we get top 5, the cheese room might get named after him when it's built in 2075
 
Good interview, but not sure how useful him and the players all being on the grass will help us? Maybe it’ll relax them.
 
I feel excited. Don't care what anyone says. After that interview, I have a new found sense of optimism. I hope he does well because now more than ever I am rooting for him and the team.
 
I listened for years to everybody saying we need a DoF, but if this is how looks then I’m not sure a) it is the answer or b) we’re actually doing it right. Surely the DoF should never be getting too involved in tactics, leave that to the guys who are working with the players on a daily basis, who understand their strengths and weaknesses

The thing is, managers each still tend to have their general preferred tactics and style of play.

The DoF still needs to sift through and pick a manager whose tactical approach and vision is one they can support and think is the best fit for the club.

The problem was that United picked a manager in Amorim whose tactical approach was one unsuited to the club, plus he turned out to be a manager who didn't seem to wish to adapt his formation to either his players or the opponents. Amorim also seemed to be an appointment more favoured and pushed by Berrada than Wilcox.

The next manager will likely be one whose approach Wilcox is happier with, and thus after the job of having selected the manager they should be more able and willing to let them get on with it and provided them with more support for what would be a more shared vision.

He's an Aldi Southgate. Which is what INEOS like. I'm sure they'll have the real thing come June.

If they actually wanted Southgate they would have hired him already. Yours is a nonsensical comment which just reeks of a miserable person who wants to moan.

There are plenty of legitimate things to complain about without having to make something up.
 
I have low expectations. We are going to win the rest of the games this season. :)
 
Rough set of initial fixtures for him, this thread could be popcorn worthy in the next couple of weeks.
 
I am really looking forward to this. Why not? We have had such doom and gloom and the feeling of being underwhelmed this season, last season...! I wish him the best of luck, and I'm sure we are all 100% behind him. What a super player.. I expect Carrick to sort that midfield out, at least, in terms of getting the right balance in there (although he has a limited squad to inherit...)

He has a great opportunity, because the Premier League, has v few star performing teams, even the Arsenal rarely fire on all cylinders.
 
He doesn’t want the job permanently. For most people I’d say they’d change their mind if things went well, but I get the feeling with Carrick he’d walk away even if he won every single game. Just seems like that sort of bloke.
If he does well and delivers results in a style that fans find acceptable he will stay. Ineos have no courage to go against fan pressure and probably don't want to risk another failure on a big decision.

Carrick, on his part, has taken this job to put himself back on the market. If he does well he will gain confidence that he can continue, he is using this as an audition for PL jobs but it's also an audition for this particular job.

His fate will be tied to how he solves the defensive issues we have and our OOP structure in midfield. If he gets De Ligt back soon, with Maz returning after AFCON then the defense will be serviceable.

In midfield, he will have to look beyond the current roaster and be a bit creative with maybe a CB or a youth player try someone like Martinez with Casemiro, Ugarte with Martinez or something else. If he can stabilize that midfield then clean sheets and results will start picking up.
 
Love Carrick, think he will do ok.
Biggest problem is lack of central defenders of high enough quality. So we will keep leaking goals regardless of manager who comes in. Pep would have scratched his face off. But hopefully our attack can be more clinical and we can score even more. Top 4 is just a few points above us, should be doable.
 
Mental, really. How is a shite ex-pro with 3 England caps and very little management or directorship experience in the most senior footballing position at the worlds biggest club? When do we start to question this shit and demand more from this role as well as the head coach?

All for a DoF if they’ve got the credentials, let’s get a new one when we get a new head coach.

Have every faith Carrick will do as well as any this season. But let’s not forget we’ve got to look past the head coach, upwards
Whilst I agree with you sentiment, getting a new DoF every time we get a new coach makes the DoF role pointless.
 
I kinda wish Amorim kept it together for a few more weeks. We played well against Brighton and I always back us in the bigger games when he sets us up to counter attack. I was expecting good a result Arsenal with all our boys back.

Just terrible stuff.
 
Don't think there's that much he can actually do in the relatively short space of time he has, beyond coach some basic team shape.

Typically when an interim manager improves the team, it's for reasons somewhat beyond their control. Be it the previous manager having been hated by the players, the previous manager not having been picking the best players, or the team having been getting worse results than their performance suggested they should in a way that would likely have evened out across the season under any manager.

Unless you really believe a basic 433/4231 suits the players by a magnitude more than a more thoroughly prepared 343, or you really believe someone like Mainoo will transform the team, then I think the realistic upside here is that Carrick coaches us competently enough that the change of manager doesn't cause much disruption, and we then also get a bit lucky with results.

Either way, I'm not going to be overly critical of him. If we fall off where we currently are then the change of manager mid season did the damage, not subsequently choosing Carrick as the interim manager ahead of Ole or Fletcher.
Agree. Other than having Amad, Mbeumo and Maguire back (which would have happened anyway) I'm not seeing where significant improvement is going to come from.
 
Feel so empty with this football club that it's hard to even care anymore. INEOS and the Glazers have destroyed my love for the football club

Until they go, we are going to be back here again in 18 months.
 
Players were given Monday and Tuesday off after the festive fixture congestion and being down to the bare bones with AFCON/injuries. Could have done more photo shoots and interviews for MUTV though.

Ah I did not realise that. Fair enough. Assumed we would have been training all week for city but not a bad idea to rest up a bit. Hopefully amad and mbeumo will be back tomorrow too.
 
Interesting that he's brought Steve Holland as his assistant. I thought that Southgate kept with Holland for too long with England. He was initially good for England with a lot of innovative set pieces, but it seemed to go very stale as time went on.
 
Rough set of initial fixtures for him, this thread could be popcorn worthy in the next couple of weeks.
We arguably don't have any easy fixtures left, we've played them all and drawn most of them. We will probably finish between 12th and 15th.
 
I really liked him as a player and I am somewhat optimistic he'll do quite well. He's fecking monotone though isn't he :lol:

Unbeaten for the rest of the season.
 
All for a DoF if they’ve got the credentials, let’s get a new one when we get a new head coach.

Edu had all the credentials and he went to Forest and failed horribly. So, who knows really? Same with the Spurs dude (forgot the name). I think managers being competent at recruitment is very important even these days. Just on the surface of it Wilcox seems out of his depth but the United job is particularly hard.

Unless you really believe a basic 433/4231 suits the players by a magnitude more than a more thoroughly prepared 343, or you really believe someone like Mainoo will transform the team, then I think the realistic upside here is that Carrick coaches us competently enough that the change of manager doesn't cause much disruption, and we then also get a bit lucky with results.
Yeah exactly this. The players were behind Amorim and 3-4-3 like it or not was getting well drilled into the players. I don't think the game model was good enough for a club like United but at this point the floor is there. It would've been nice if they were all adults in the room and they sacked Amorim at the end of the season.

With a 4 ATB system, they would need to understand a whole new set of dynamics. We saw it even with Heaven against Burnley where he was almost expecting the 3rd CB to cover a run and took a second or two too long to react. The out of possession is the big issue he needs to fix and I expect us to leak goals.

In attack I feel we have enough about us to find some goals just on vibes and I think 4-3-3 does immediately improve us in attack by platforming all the players correctly. (No Bruno at CM, no Amad at WB etc)
 
Best of luck Carrick, one of my all time favourite Utd players. You're gonna need it mate!!
 
Interesting that he's brought Steve Holland as his assistant. I thought that Southgate kept with Holland for too long with England. He was initially good for England with a lot of innovative set pieces, but it seemed to go very stale as time went on.
Looking at the coaching staff and the current situation I think they badly needed someone with a bit of experience.

Some people might cringe at the idea but I actually didn't mind the idea of Steve Bruce, just to be a sounding board for Carrick and I think his personality would be a good fit.
 
I’m excited. He was one of my favorite players growing up. I hope he smashes it. With the AFCON boys coming back, we absolutely still can finish in the CL spots. We need a fit MDL and then I hope we can go on a run.
 
He avoided the question when he got asked about his philosophy. Does he have 1? Alls he said was we want to win games and theirs different ways of doing it.
Who cares if he wins. He needs to stabilize the team and win games above all. The rest is irrelevant at this point
 
He avoided the question when he got asked about his philosophy. Does he have 1? Alls he said was we want to win games and theirs different ways of doing it.
Yes at Boro he was quite dogmatic in a very possession control led style of football. Playing from the back and controlling a match. A style that when a team just sat back he loses an idea of how to break it down. However that was him with a long term project in mind, I can see him being a bit more pragmatic for the next few months only looking to get results rather than instil a long term philosophy.

He definitely prefers to play as a dominant team rather than sit and counter, but in his three interim games last time he just set the teams out to try and win even if in an ugly manner.
 
Edu had all the credentials and he went to Forest and failed horribly. So, who knows really? Same with the Spurs dude (forgot the name). I think managers being competent at recruitment is very important even these days. Just on the surface of it Wilcox seems out of his depth but the United job is particularly hard.


Yeah exactly this. The players were behind Amorim and 3-4-3 like it or not was getting well drilled into the players. I don't think the game model was good enough for a club like United but at this point the floor is there. It would've been nice if they were all adults in the room and they sacked Amorim at the end of the season.

With a 4 ATB system, they would need to understand a whole new set of dynamics. We saw it even with Heaven against Burnley where he was almost expecting the 3rd CB to cover a run and took a second or two too long to react. The out of possession is the big issue he needs to fix and I expect us to leak goals.

In attack I feel we have enough about us to find some goals just on vibes and I think 4-3-3 does immediately improve us in attack by platforming all the players correctly. (No Bruno at CM, no Amad at WB etc)

I'm much less sure on this.

Bruno gets to play in his best position, but he was already on course for one of his most productive seasons for us from CM. So I doubt the actual output from him massively improves.

Cunha and Mount are two players who seem pretty obviously less suited to most notional 433s.

And while it might notionally benefit Amad to play RW instead of RWB, in real terms it more likely means he'll be on the pitch less, with his minutes instead effectively going to a CM or defender while Mbeumo remains first choice at RW.

Because where our notional best line-up in the 343 had five attacking players on the pitch (Sesko, Cunha, Mbeumo in the front three, Bruno in CM and Amad at RWB), that realistically reduces to four in a 433 unless you think Mainoo is an equivalently attacking player. At which point you need structural improvements to make up for less actual attacking talent on the pitch.

Which given we were already the 3rd best team for goals and 2nd best team for xG this season, is an idea I'm slightly sceptical of. And even if they managed to be more of an open play threat in that set-up, you also have to maintain the added set-piece threat we've had this season under new coaches...