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So many posts like this.A mediocre appointment by a mediocre board for a mediocre club

So many posts like this.A mediocre appointment by a mediocre board for a mediocre club
You saying it's a mediocre post?So many posts like this.
I listened for years to everybody saying we need a DoF, but if this is how looks then I’m not sure a) it is the answer or b) we’re actually doing it right. Surely the DoF should never be getting too involved in tactics, leave that to the guys who are working with the players on a daily basis, who understand their strengths and weaknesses
He's an Aldi Southgate. Which is what INEOS like. I'm sure they'll have the real thing come June.
If he does well and delivers results in a style that fans find acceptable he will stay. Ineos have no courage to go against fan pressure and probably don't want to risk another failure on a big decision.He doesn’t want the job permanently. For most people I’d say they’d change their mind if things went well, but I get the feeling with Carrick he’d walk away even if he won every single game. Just seems like that sort of bloke.
Whilst I agree with you sentiment, getting a new DoF every time we get a new coach makes the DoF role pointless.Mental, really. How is a shite ex-pro with 3 England caps and very little management or directorship experience in the most senior footballing position at the worlds biggest club? When do we start to question this shit and demand more from this role as well as the head coach?
All for a DoF if they’ve got the credentials, let’s get a new one when we get a new head coach.
Have every faith Carrick will do as well as any this season. But let’s not forget we’ve got to look past the head coach, upwards
Agree. Other than having Amad, Mbeumo and Maguire back (which would have happened anyway) I'm not seeing where significant improvement is going to come from.Don't think there's that much he can actually do in the relatively short space of time he has, beyond coach some basic team shape.
Typically when an interim manager improves the team, it's for reasons somewhat beyond their control. Be it the previous manager having been hated by the players, the previous manager not having been picking the best players, or the team having been getting worse results than their performance suggested they should in a way that would likely have evened out across the season under any manager.
Unless you really believe a basic 433/4231 suits the players by a magnitude more than a more thoroughly prepared 343, or you really believe someone like Mainoo will transform the team, then I think the realistic upside here is that Carrick coaches us competently enough that the change of manager doesn't cause much disruption, and we then also get a bit lucky with results.
Either way, I'm not going to be overly critical of him. If we fall off where we currently are then the change of manager mid season did the damage, not subsequently choosing Carrick as the interim manager ahead of Ole or Fletcher.
Players were given Monday and Tuesday off after the festive fixture congestion and being down to the bare bones with AFCON/injuries. Could have done more photo shoots and interviews for MUTV though.
And why are you here?A mediocre appointment by a mediocre board for a mediocre club
Would have bought Amorim a CM and given him until the next international break.What would you have done or preferred?
We arguably don't have any easy fixtures left, we've played them all and drawn most of them. We will probably finish between 12th and 15th.Rough set of initial fixtures for him, this thread could be popcorn worthy in the next couple of weeks.

All for a DoF if they’ve got the credentials, let’s get a new one when we get a new head coach.
Yeah exactly this. The players were behind Amorim and 3-4-3 like it or not was getting well drilled into the players. I don't think the game model was good enough for a club like United but at this point the floor is there. It would've been nice if they were all adults in the room and they sacked Amorim at the end of the season.Unless you really believe a basic 433/4231 suits the players by a magnitude more than a more thoroughly prepared 343, or you really believe someone like Mainoo will transform the team, then I think the realistic upside here is that Carrick coaches us competently enough that the change of manager doesn't cause much disruption, and we then also get a bit lucky with results.
Whatever. Hopefully this doesn't mean another season is written off.
Looking at the coaching staff and the current situation I think they badly needed someone with a bit of experience.Interesting that he's brought Steve Holland as his assistant. I thought that Southgate kept with Holland for too long with England. He was initially good for England with a lot of innovative set pieces, but it seemed to go very stale as time went on.
Who cares if he wins. He needs to stabilize the team and win games above all. The rest is irrelevant at this pointHe avoided the question when he got asked about his philosophy. Does he have 1? Alls he said was we want to win games and theirs different ways of doing it.
Yes at Boro he was quite dogmatic in a very possession control led style of football. Playing from the back and controlling a match. A style that when a team just sat back he loses an idea of how to break it down. However that was him with a long term project in mind, I can see him being a bit more pragmatic for the next few months only looking to get results rather than instil a long term philosophy.He avoided the question when he got asked about his philosophy. Does he have 1? Alls he said was we want to win games and theirs different ways of doing it.
Edu had all the credentials and he went to Forest and failed horribly. So, who knows really? Same with the Spurs dude (forgot the name). I think managers being competent at recruitment is very important even these days. Just on the surface of it Wilcox seems out of his depth but the United job is particularly hard.
Yeah exactly this. The players were behind Amorim and 3-4-3 like it or not was getting well drilled into the players. I don't think the game model was good enough for a club like United but at this point the floor is there. It would've been nice if they were all adults in the room and they sacked Amorim at the end of the season.
With a 4 ATB system, they would need to understand a whole new set of dynamics. We saw it even with Heaven against Burnley where he was almost expecting the 3rd CB to cover a run and took a second or two too long to react. The out of possession is the big issue he needs to fix and I expect us to leak goals.
In attack I feel we have enough about us to find some goals just on vibes and I think 4-3-3 does immediately improve us in attack by platforming all the players correctly. (No Bruno at CM, no Amad at WB etc)
You sound like funA mediocre appointment by a mediocre board for a mediocre club