Michael Carrick - Head Coach for the remainder of the season

Well we nearly signed Kroos but we know how that turned out. Seems like our transfer strategy isn’t as good.

How come Carrick wasn’t favoured for England national side? Genuine question?
They set up in a different way. England at that time had a lot of great players and I think they tried too hard to fit too many in based on their reputation rather than the ability they could have had with a better style of play.

For transparency I'm Irish and not an expert on the England national team.
 
I truly wish him all the best, hopefully he gets us into CL and then goes on to continue his career elsewhere, this will be a good launching pad for him for a career in the very top leagues.
 
A mediocre appointment, by a mediocre board, for a mediocre club,
with a mediocre record,
Mediocre Michael, what goods he gonna do, when we're top to bottom mediocre, mediocre through and through,
Don't know what Jim be smokin, if this is best in class, and if I ever meet him, he can kiss my mediocre ass
 
Well we nearly signed Kroos but we know how that turned out. Seems like our transfer strategy isn’t as good.

How come Carrick wasn’t favoured for England national side? Genuine question?

Partially a desire to fit a lot of big names in the team at the cost of cohesion and sense.

But also the England national team seemed to be attached to a 442 formation for an insanely long period of time, which also didn't help them adjust to their talent.
 
with a mediocre record,
Mediocre Michael, what goods he gonna do, when we're top to bottom mediocre, mediocre through and through,
Don't know what Jim be smokin, if this is best in class, and if I ever meet him, he can kiss my mediocre ass
What’s the “plan” when this appointment goes sideways? I’m a Carrick fan but I don’t see this ending good, I hope I’m wrong.
 
Unpopular opinion:

If Carrick gets us top 5 (I know a very toll order) AND, most importantly, somehow magically makes this bunch of headless chicken start playing exciting football, he WILL be offered to stay, despite all of the talk that him and club made clear he is not aspiring for permanent role.

We have not experienced success and most importantly consistent, exciting play for so long that if he manages to deliver that, the overwhelming support will leave no other choice but to keep him.

Of course, odds are the players won't play along, we will finish 8th and he will move on to flourish somewhere else, instead.
 
It's a really "meh" appointment, but guess that's the feeling around the club in general. He's not being brought in to revolutionise what happens in the future after his time is up (unlike Ragnick's appointment which was supposedly made to accomplish), but IF there is a chance he can squeak us into that 4th spot then it's an incredible achievement for him. That's a big if...

As we have nothing to aim for except for some form of European qualification, with 4th place being the best outcome for this season, I had a quick look at the past 4 seasons for 4th place in the league:

24/25: 69 points
23/24: 68 points
22/23: 71 points
21/22: 71 points

We're on 32 points with 17 games remaining, which is a gap of roughly 38 points which could be a sweet spot to secure 4th comfortably. Granted, the teams around us playing for the same spot aren't exactly setting the world alight, but say that 70 is the average for 4th place then Carrick would need to look at winning more than half of those games, and keeping the defeats to 3 or 4 max.

If he can bring back the initial revival that Ole did as interim (which was wonderful for those who remember him for that and not the downfall), then he will have done a fantastic job as interim manager as well as giving enough time to sort out a full time replacement.

However, simply looking at the numbers above and the mentality of this squad currently, I feel he will be working through these final 17 games as a firefighter and we will fall short of a European finish come May :/.
 
with a mediocre record,
Mediocre Michael, what goods he gonna do, when we're top to bottom mediocre, mediocre through and through,
Don't know what Jim be smokin, if this is best in class, and if I ever meet him, he can kiss my mediocre ass
Bright Eyes couldn’t muster a more mediocre dance
Even in mediocrity we are worse than JD Vance
It smells like half baked humble pie or a middling cheap romance:
The worlds most mediocre club has even more mediocre fans
 
McKenna’s probably the better coach but this group may not listen to an interim McKenna. Carrick has some standing in the game. Hopeful enough to cut through their BS.

I hope he realizes his spell is DOA if he doesn’t figure out the midfield (and left wing).

Loan, Innovate (Martinez) or buy but any reliance on Ugarte, Casa ends in guaranteed failure.
 
It's a really "meh" appointment, but guess that's the feeling around the club in general. He's not being brought in to revolutionise what happens in the future after his time is up (unlike Ragnick's appointment which was supposedly made to accomplish), but IF there is a chance he can squeak us into that 4th spot then it's an incredible achievement for him. That's a big if...

As we have nothing to aim for except for some form of European qualification, with 4th place being the best outcome for this season, I had a quick look at the past 4 seasons for 4th place in the league:

24/25: 69 points
23/24: 68 points
22/23: 71 points
21/22: 71 points

We're on 32 points with 17 games remaining, which is a gap of roughly 38 points which could be a sweet spot to secure 4th comfortably. Granted, the teams around us playing for the same spot aren't exactly setting the world alight, but say that 70 is the average for 4th place then Carrick would need to look at winning more than half of those games, and keeping the defeats to 3 or 4 max.

If he can bring back the initial revival that Ole did as interim (which was wonderful for those who remember him for that and not the downfall), then he will have done a fantastic job as interim manager as well as giving enough time to sort out a full time replacement.

However, simply looking at the numbers above and the mentality of this squad currently, I feel he will be working through these final 17 games as a firefighter and we will fall short of a European finish come May :/.
When I did the predictor thing I got the 4th/5th/6th teams finishing all between 66-68 points. I'm probably more pessimistic on it as we've fecked the past 5 games that should've been a lot more points but it's not impossible. That also assumes Chelsea finds some form along with us. We'll see.
 
When I did the predictor thing I got the 4th/5th/6th teams finishing all between 66-68 points. I'm probably more pessimistic on it as we've fecked the past 5 games that should've been a lot more points but it's not impossible. That also assumes Chelsea finds some form along with us. We'll see.

I think it will be another very tight 4th place finish. Only question is: will be in that fight?

Trying to rack my brain late at night, but wasn't it Liverpool were scrapping during the Covid season for European football and ended up 3rd on the final day because the idiots around couldn't seal the deal?

Maybe we will be as jammy as them this time around!
 
Bright Eyes couldn’t muster a more mediocre dance
Even in mediocrity we are worse than JD Vance
It smells like half baked humble pie or a middling cheap romance:
The worlds most mediocre club has even more mediocre fans

If United were a Starbucks cup they'd be the medium-sized Grande,
But Jim ain't been sipping coffee, he's surely high and necking brandy,
Mediocre owner in mediocre southern France,
If Sir Jim was only half baked we might stand half a chance



Mediocre poetry battles
 
What’s the “plan” when this appointment goes sideways? I’m a Carrick fan but I don’t see this ending good, I hope I’m wrong.

Yeah honestly, I don't know. I think he'll probably stay til the end of the season unless were looking like getting relegated or lose 10 in a row, which isn't going to happen. I'm fully behind him but a bit dubious. Prefer him than Ole though and not sure who else we could have gotten. The "everything is mediocre stuff" is way over the top though.
 
This appointment does make sense as opposed to choosing Ole again.

Represents a fresh start and we avoid going down the route of hiring someone who ultimately "failed" here.

Just a bit concerned that his record at Boro wasn't great, but not expecting anything other than stabilisation and hopefully respectability again.
 
He will still have the same midfield to work with so he is going to need luck for the remainder of the season.
 
Extremely happy that Carrick got the job. Was hoping Fletcher would assist him, but maybe it's too much of good thing to ask.

If he can have Martinez to play as CM, that would be a good start.
 
He will still have the same midfield to work with so he is going to need luck for the remainder of the season.

A minor miracle is needed to get into those CL positions. The only way he is getting a midfielder is if Ugarte gets shipped out to turkey.
 
A minor miracle is needed to get into those CL positions. The only way he is getting a midfielder is if Ugarte gets shipped out to turkey.
No player will be coming or going and Carrick will be handed the script for every presser and all will be as normal at MUFC TV.
 
Has there been any instance where a manager has been written off by fans before he even took charge of the team?
 
He will still have the same midfield to work with so he is going to need luck for the remainder of the season.

It’s a weird one cause I really do think a solid and competent passer next to Casemiro changes so much with this team.
Even someone like Neves for 10-15m would likely help us get top 5, yet I doubt we’ll do any business. Strange really when CL qualification is right there for us due to the poor form of other teams.
 
Will he get the sack if he's shite or is he here no matter what happens?
 
It’s a weird one cause I really do think a solid and competent passer next to Casemiro changes so much with this team.
Even someone like Neves for 10-15m would likely help us get top 5, yet I doubt we’ll do any business. Strange really when CL qualification is right there for us due to the poor form of other teams.
One of the things that Roy Keane says that I agree with is that we are so easy to play against as opponents just waltz through our midfield.
I really cannot see Neves changing that and add to that he has been playing in an absolute shite League would not have improved his skills or match sharpness so I would pass on that one.
 
Whilst I agree with you sentiment, getting a new DoF every time we get a new coach makes the DoF role pointless.
I don’t mean every time, I just mean we need a new one now. Dan Ashworth left after a very short period of time, someone who actually had experience in that sort of role, and it felt like Wilcox was an interim DoF. It feels like a DoF needs a lot more on the round experience as they oversee a lot of the things a manager used to, like Fergie. It’s no surprise we’ve been utter shite with Wilcox in charge as he just doesn’t have the experience
 
Ok, I’ll play, name me 5 incredible players who’ve went on to become top class directors of football.

There’s also countless managers who’ve went on to become far better than they were as players. Whether you like him or not, calling him a shite player isn’t how go judge him. He actually wasn’t a shite player either as if it matters.
Like I said, calling him a shite player was one of many criticisms I had of him, all aiming to highlight that the man doesn’t have the footballing experience to be our director of football, as he’s essentially taking a lot of footballing responsibility away from the head coach. Feel like you’re nit picking a bit.

Put it this way, I’d feel a lot more comfortable having someone as our DoF who mightn’t have the strategic experience like many other DoF’s at top clubs have, if he at least had an impressive or long standing footballing/managerial background.

Wilcox is a dud, and we won’t improve with Carrick in charge, Tuchel in charge, Glasner in charge, Ancelotti or whoever else if this fraud is calling the shots.
 
One of the things that Roy Keane says that I agree with is that we are so easy to play against as opponents just waltz through our midfield.
I really cannot see Neves changing that and add to that he has been playing in an absolute shite League would not have improved his skills or match sharpness so I would pass on that one.

We conceded 43 goals with Casemiro, Eriksen and Bruno. (1.13 /game). Finished 3rd with the league’s 3rd best defensive record.

Since removing Eriksen that has dramatically increased to 1.52, 1.42, and currently 1.52.

It’s a control thing, teams Waltz through us because we have no control in there and that is what we desperately need to have.
 
We conceded 43 goals with Casemiro, Eriksen and Bruno. (1.13 /game). Finished 3rd with the league’s 3rd best defensive record.

Since removing Eriksen that has dramatically increased to 1.52, 1.42, and currently 1.52.

It’s a control thing, teams Waltz through us because we have no control in there and that is what we desperately need to have.
But do you not think tactics also have something to do with those stats?
 
Day we manage to build an actual midfield with competent players would be the day our fanbase would realise How mediocre our midfield been in last few years .
 
We conceded 43 goals with Casemiro, Eriksen and Bruno. (1.13 /game). Finished 3rd with the league’s 3rd best defensive record.

Since removing Eriksen that has dramatically increased to 1.52, 1.42, and currently 1.52.

It’s a control thing, teams Waltz through us because we have no control in there and that is what we desperately need to have.
So that coincided with Kobbie taking Eriksen's game time?
 
So that coincided with Kobbie taking Eriksen's game time?

I'm not sure we've had a settled enough CM to pinpoint one individual since ETH's first season.

What I would say is I think we instantly got more control when we swapped McFred for Casemiro and Eriksen.

We swapped legs for positional awareness and ability on the ball. It worked.