I suspect delayed subs from Carrick is due to a lack faith in our bench to make a difference apart from Sesko.
Michael Carrick - Head Coach for the remainder of the season
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He’s a caretaker manager. Nothings changed. Honestly thought we were alright, albeit a bit disappointing not to win because I think we looked good for large spells of the game. West Ham are much improved and our record there is appalling. It seems people suddenly expect this bloke to reinvent the wheel.
Wow, ok thats encouraging
Yeah but most teams probably don't change their tactics specifically against Leicester, generally speaking of course.
With United, I feel like you always need to prepare differently againts low block or high-line team. No matter how excellent Mbeumo has been as a signing, playing him up top against West Ham is such a waste
But still, a draw against West Ham got a lot of people disappointed, that in itself show how great Carrick has been.
I understand the temptation not to disrupt what's brought you 4 wins in 4. However, the Westham game felt like he missed a very obvious trick against a low block team. You need presence in the opposition box to allow you to put the ball in the box and you need a good cover defender to allow you to commit more men forward. Sesko and Yoro are our best options respectively for both and neither came on until too little too late.
Yup I agree. I would add that we look a lot more stable and composed. Previously they would be panic all around as soon as the opponent would be in our half, cause midfield was down to Casemiro and fullbacks being too wide, now there's lot more help between the players, fullbacks tuck in midfield when needed and wingers too. Despite the fact we conceded on Staturday it didnt set us in panic but we pushed for the goal. We were a bit toothless but still looked more solid than before.
Alternatively we did come with an inch or two of scoring a goal 10 minutes after they scored, so if luck had been on our side leaving it the same would have been the right decision.
Ultimately I'm looking at it in glass half full mode in that the changes were made and were positive and affected the game, which is far and away much better then what would happen under the last bloke.
I was very disappointed with our attacking play against West Ham. We kept too many players back while lacking options across the front line.
There were so many instances where WH left acres of space for us to exploit on their left, but Dalot stayed in the back to help build up (even though they only had Taty pressing). I don't know if this was poor decision making on Dalot's part or instructions he was given but Carrick should have adjusted.
There were so many instances where WH left acres of space for us to exploit on their left, but Dalot stayed in the back to help build up (even though they only had Taty pressing). I don't know if this was poor decision making on Dalot's part or instructions he was given but Carrick should have adjusted.
Carrick will absolutely 100 million gazillion percent get the job. There is noone else now Tuchel has signed the new deal and anyway Brexit Jim will want an Englishman.
There's Gareth Southgate
There will still be candidates. On paper tuchel feels a big one gone but they met him and discussed the job last summer, and it didn't happen. So I doubt much changed anyway.
It was a tactical stand off: WH wanted us to overcommit. Summerville is their most dangerous outlet. I think we had the right approach to have patience.
The performance was poor, in games like these we need good decision making so we make the most of our attacks.
Unless it goes totally tits up I agree.
That’s silly.
Honestly the only other realistic choice is Nagelsmann. Enrique and Ancelotti aren't realistic IMO, and Nagelsmann we don't know if he's leaving Germany and you're waiting until the end of the world Cup so missing valuable time anyway. Nobody else is up there after Carrick
So there is other choices, glad we agree.
Still long ways to go to make a proper assessment of Carrick.
De Zerbi is now available. He‘s a bit of a cnut, but a much better choice than Tuchel imo.
His disciple Farioli would be another option. It would be taking an informed gamble on another promising coach from a smaller league.
I‘m not against that, because I‘m not superstitious. Just because something didn‘t work, doesn’t mean it was the wrong idea.
The same goes for hiring a former player.
De Zerbi is now available. He‘s a bit of a cnut, but a much better choice than Tuchel imo.
His disciple Farioli would be another option. It would be taking an informed gamble on another promising coach from a smaller league.
I‘m not against that, because I‘m not superstitious. Just because something didn‘t work, doesn’t mean it was the wrong idea.
The same goes for hiring a former player.
Agreed, it didn't really feel the same as other times, in my opinion.
He's had a fairly easy time so far in terms of the off-field stuff, it's obvious what he's going to be questioned about at the next press conference so it'll be interesting to see how he handles that.
Probably instruction, Summerville would have had a field day if Dalot spent too much time in advanced positions.
Putting things in prospective, last time we won 4 games in a row was under Ten Hag two years ago, we have been mostly terrible this season, yet we beat in form teams.. a tie away to West Ham isn’t too bad in our current state. And this came after inheriting a team that played a different style for about a full season..
Interesting to see how the team will perform away to Everton… Obligatory, Carrick’s first real test..
We should wait until end of season and assess, but he’s done great so far!
Interesting to see how the team will perform away to Everton… Obligatory, Carrick’s first real test..
We should wait until end of season and assess, but he’s done great so far!
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Nice man management that.
Didnt we played like that last 10 minutes or so?
So after one game you concluded we have no plan. Great stuff.
4 wins and a draw in 5 games.
Some people just love a moan, West Ham games away are always shit, always have been, probably always will be. Add Nuno’s football to the mix and a shit game was guaranteed.
Those cnuts love showing up against Utd for some weird reason, Utd have lost or drawn there in the PL more than they've won.
Some people just love a moan, West Ham games away are always shit, always have been, probably always will be. Add Nuno’s football to the mix and a shit game was guaranteed.
Those cnuts love showing up against Utd for some weird reason, Utd have lost or drawn there in the PL more than they've won.
Exactly, we’ve lost away at West Ham the last three times we’ve played there as well.
Same goes for fecking Wolves, they can have the worst season in the history of the prem and still turn up twice per season when they are up against us.
Amazing achievement given it is his first full month. I was surprised however that Sean Dyche was also nominated. Imagine him winning it and getting fired on the same month.
Not a surprise.
Carrick record of 4 wins and a draw is undeniably impressive but I still have reservations. 3 of those 4 wins came at Old Trafford and we tend to raise our game against the so called ‘big teams’ at home even under previous managers. We also benefited from playing just one game a week which has given Carrick more time on the training ground and less squad rotation to worry about.
For me, the true test of whether we genuinely turned a corner isnt how we perform against the top sides at Old Trafford but whether we can go to places like West Ham, Bournemouth, Newcastle, Brentford and Brighton and come away with convincing wins. Those are the fixtures that have tripped us up for years and the ones that separate good sides from genuine contenders. I also want to see whether Carrick would have the authority to drop underperformers even someone like Bruno if his form dips. Amazing start but I need more evidence.
Having said that, I hope we finish in the top four and Carrick gets the job full time. But the real test will come next season when form dips, egos need managing and the fixtures start piling up.
For me, the true test of whether we genuinely turned a corner isnt how we perform against the top sides at Old Trafford but whether we can go to places like West Ham, Bournemouth, Newcastle, Brentford and Brighton and come away with convincing wins. Those are the fixtures that have tripped us up for years and the ones that separate good sides from genuine contenders. I also want to see whether Carrick would have the authority to drop underperformers even someone like Bruno if his form dips. Amazing start but I need more evidence.
Having said that, I hope we finish in the top four and Carrick gets the job full time. But the real test will come next season when form dips, egos need managing and the fixtures start piling up.
Did Amorim benefit from this when we couldn't buy a win?
But is Anorim the bar? Him failing to make that advantage count doesn't mean it's not an advantage for Carrick
He really tried his hardest to downplay this after talking up that aspect during the summer and preseason because we were still shite playing once a week
I felt that our build up play was too slow, more like an Amorim team, making sure we had the ball a lot. We were always coming up against 10 players defending a smaller area. We seem to have discovered a way of breaking the press, so that is when we need to quicken the pace, as soon as we have players running at the opponent, every else should be finding space looking forward. We have to get the ball into that box as quickly as possible, but playing with control.
If it's such a clear advantage that it can be used to play down Carrick's achievements, then it stands to reason Amorim should've made it count more than he did.
I don't think many people would dispute that!
Don't get me wrong. Advantage or not, Carrick has been smashing it out of the park so far
I get what you're saying and yes we need to be able to beat teams lower down the league but most of those teams you mention are solid mid-table sides and expecting us to play away to them and not only win but get convincing wins is a bit much to ask this season. Scrappy 1-0s away to most mid tables sides with the occasional draw would be easily good enough for now. We're not going to be going away to every team below 6/7th and knocking them out of the park this season or probably next. Not even Arsenal are doing that this season.