Mika Godts

thisisfissy said:
He looks very good, but I think we need to go for a Premier League proven winger
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All the top ones outside of the big clubs have only just been bought already:

Cunha, Mbeumo, Eze, Semenyo etc...

There isn't an infinite quality of players in one position at non-major PL clubs at any one moment capable of improving United.

The only one left who people point to now is Ndiaye, but I think he's a bit 'meh' tbh, not much of a goalscorer and Everton would ask for much more than he's worth. Semenyo was the one really, but he went to City instead. So now United need to rather look elsewhere.

Rasmus_9 said:
I think we need a more explosive player for the left attacking position as we already have Cunha as the drifting inside dribbler. I’d go for the RB Leipzig lad Diomande who seems ideal for the demands of the premier league
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Diomande could well be first choice. This guy could be the fall-back if he ends up elsewhere.

Any LW United consider will ultimately be a drift-inside player (albeit Diomande is two-footed); that's just the way wingers/wide-forwards are expected to typically operate nowadays.

One thing I would say though, Godts is also different to Cunha - Cunha works best when he has room to stretch his legs. Godts looks to be better dribbling in tight spaces and could potentially be more effective than Cunha against low blocks (similar to Amad in that regard).
 
Rasmus_9 said:
I think we need a more explosive player for the left attacking position as we already have Cunha as the drifting inside dribbler. I’d go for the RB Leipzig lad Diomande who seems ideal for the demands of the premier league
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Diomande will cost 2X.
 
I really like the looks of him, especially his close dribbling and passing in the box.

Amad is a little lad as well, but plenty physical. That would be the question for me.

Cunha has been good on the left. Do we need a left winger? We also have Dorgu.
 
I read he buys a lot of presents for the ladies. Godts gift to women.
 
goldenboy said:
He is better than Antony, for sure.

He is producing much more at a younger age, while in a worse Ajax side. Antony's Eredivisie numbers were never that fantastic, despite them winning consecutive league titles while he was there. He was just a terrible buy (even at the time he looked a mistake to me).

His output looks closer to the 22 year-old Gakpo's in his last full season before signing for Liverpool. Gakpo was playing for a PSV side regularly finishing 2nd in the Eredivisie. Godts is at an Ajax side currently 4th in the table.

Godts this season in Eredivisie - 20 years old - 2073 minutes - 14 goals 9 assists = goal or assist every 90.1 minutes
Gakpo Eredivisie full season before Liverpool - 22 years old - 1911 minutes - 12 goals 13 assists = goal or assist every 76.4 minutes
Antony Eredivisie full season before United - 22 years old - 1736 minutes - 8 goals 4 assists = goal or assist every 144.7 minutes

I quite like the idea of this signing tbh. After Diomande, he's the only winger I've seen United strongly linked with who seems to make some sense. Gakpo has after a shaky start ended up being a pretty solid squad option for Liverpool. Godts' output suggests he should be able to replicate at least a solid PL squad player role eventually at a fee which shouldn't break the bank.

I think his skill-set - with him being excellent at dribbling in tight spaces and also executing through-balls - means I could also see him working very well in the 10 role in future.
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BrilliantOrange said:
I think you guys are nowhere near excited enough to be honest...

Unlike Antony or Donny ever were he is a very special talent if you ask me..
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BAMSOLA said:
Suppose I better do this right!

Actually looks pretty good and could be something special but will probably take a little development.

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Based on that highlights video, he looks like an interesting talent. Not sure if his pace and acceleration can transfer over to the PL but his feet, ability to go outside, balance, movement from his hips and composure in the box is impressive.

His style and dribbling reminds me a little of a mix of Kulusevski and Odegaard.
 
Godts damnit can we give it rest with these wordplay jokes.. They mika me angry!
 
Wouldn't be the worst alternative to Diomande and he actually plays from the left. Ajax has skinned us before, so the price Godts be right.
 
If we go for it sure why not, looks talented enough and he has end product in his current league

But do consider that the 2 outstanding attackers from last season in that league Piaxao and Tillman are just doing okay at Marseille and Leverkusen in tougher leagues. And on the other hand you have transfers like Bruno from Portugal.

Much prefer someone like him than a physical player
 
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Based on the youtube video posted on the first page he looks better than Antony and VDB. Seems like he's more likely to handle the speed, physicality and intensity of the PL, which is where those two (and the likes of Sancho) simply couldn't adjust.

While I wouldn't want to spend big money on him, he looks an interesting option.
 
Not sure I'd say he's better than Antony at was at all, though he is putting up better numbers. Antony was one of the players in a star team, Mika is the star player in a very ordinary team, it's very different and difficult to compare.

Mika definitely has a better head on his shoulders, is a better passer I'd say. But he is even less explosive and quick than Antony is, think he is better suited to La Liga. He said in an interview this year that his dream is to play in La Liga, I guess Barcelona/Real Madrid. I am not sure whether he has that potential, but he's been awesome this season and who knows how far he can kick on.
 
BrilliantOrange said:
I think he is the kind of player - a skillful playful fast winger - who might be a bit lazy'ish by default, but from what I hear and read about the guy is that he is very self aware and very conscious about his development and area's he needs to develop. You also see that he is making steps gradually over time.. In his delivery of goals and assists, in his decision making, in the responsibility he takes during games which aren't going well, in the energy he puts in forward pressure, his physique in general..
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He doesn't seem that fast though.
 
It all depends on his attitude for me.

Is he a brave player or is he a little on the Mika side?
 
If he’s not quick enough he’ll never be good enough in this day and age
 
AjaxCunian said:
Not sure I'd say he's better than Antony at was at all, though he is putting up better numbers. Antony was one of the players in a star team, Mika is the star player in a very ordinary team, it's very different and difficult to compare.

Mika definitely has a better head on his shoulders, is a better passer I'd say. But he is even less explosive and quick than Antony is, think he is better suited to La Liga. He said in an interview this year that his dream is to play in La Liga, I guess Barcelona/Real Madrid. I am not sure whether he has that potential, but he's been awesome this season and who knows how far he can kick on.
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I like that he seems to be a decent long passer and switches the play fairly often. Seems like a head-up kind of player. But if he's even less explosive than Antony, I'm not sure the PL would be a good fit.
 
Speed isnt required if you're scoring and creating. Cunha last season, Cherki and Semenyo this season show it

Regardless he looks quick enough
 
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Ekeke said:
Cunha last season, Cherki and Semenyo this season show it
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Both Cunha and Semenyo are very quick. Especially the first yards, but even their top speed is measured at around 35 kmt.

Cherki is just a freak in terms of technical ability and talent.
 
andersj said:
Both Cunha and Semenyo are very quick. Especially the first yards, but even their top speed is measured at around 35 kmt.

Cherki is just a freak in terms of technical ability and talent.
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Godts looks as quick as Cunha
 
He looks a good player but more of a playmaker winger which I believe we have of a similar style of already. If we do invest in a wide player I would agree with the opinions that I’d like a player with a bit more direct pace and the ability the beat his man on the outside and cross from wide.

I wonder if his future could be more central though?
 
About his speed... Godts isn't a speed monster, but he is definetely very pacey and explosive.. Ive watched him for about a 100 games now and never ever did I think: Boy, if only he was a bit quicker..
 
BrilliantOrange said:
About his speed... Godts isn't a speed monster, but he is definetely very pacey and explosive.. Ive watched him for about a 100 games now and never ever did I think: Boy, if only he was a bit quicker..
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Messi pace rather than Van de Ven pace.
 
criticalanalysis said:
Based on that highlights video, he looks like an interesting talent. Not sure if his pace and acceleration can transfer over to the PL but his feet, ability to go outside, balance, movement from his hips and composure in the box is impressive.

His style and dribbling reminds me a little of a mix of Kulusevski and Odegaard.
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Yeah I see the similarities I also think his versatility might count for a lot as he looks like he can play off a front striker as well as from the the right or left wing and I would go out on a limb and say from the little I've seen he may even be able to fill in a a makeshift CF in much the same way as Mbuemo can.

He would also as long as the fee is correct be competing with Cunha rather than straight replacing him so I like the look of this one as long as the fee is right.
 
BrilliantOrange said:


So apparently we are in for Mike Godts, who is having a great season at Ajax with 14 goals and 9 assists so far in the league for an absolutely dreadful Ajax.

Coincidently I posted about him yesterday in the 'under the radar' transfers thread. I think he is an amazing talent who is consistently growing over the last couple of years. Already over a 100 official caps for Ajax and turning 21 in June.
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This guy is incredibly unreliable and banned on the known sources list I believe, so make of the link of what you will
 
MadDogg said:
Based on the youtube video posted on the first page he looks better than Antony and VDB. Seems like he's more likely to handle the speed, physicality and intensity of the PL, which is where those two (and the likes of Sancho) simply couldn't adjust.

While I wouldn't want to spend big money on him, he looks an interesting option.
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from the YT clips he looks weak, Antony, for all his issues, was breezing by these defenders in the Eredivisie, so was Sancho in the BL, and they weren't that pacey, this is fella is skillful and he uses his body feints and quick foot to dribble past defenders, however, FBs in the PL will just use physicality to overpower such players unless they are very skillful and capable of quick thinking to compensate for their lack of explosiveness.
 
Ekeke said:
Speed isnt required if you're scoring and creating. Cunha last season, Cherki and Semenyo this season show it

Regardless he looks quick enough
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All three of those are quick.

And I don't think he does.
 
AjaxCunian said:
Not sure I'd say he's better than Antony at was at all, though he is putting up better numbers. Antony was one of the players in a star team, Mika is the star player in a very ordinary team, it's very different and difficult to compare.

Mika definitely has a better head on his shoulders, is a better passer I'd say. But he is even less explosive and quick than Antony is, think he is better suited to La Liga. He said in an interview this year that his dream is to play in La Liga, I guess Barcelona/Real Madrid. I am not sure whether he has that potential, but he's been awesome this season and who knows how far he can kick on.
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That’s damning. No thanks.
 
I think if we could get him for 25-30mn euros it'd be a good pick up. Has a bit of the maverick dribbler about him, is productive and doesn't seem like the kind of signing that would spook JJ Gabriel in terms of permanently blocking a pathway like a Diomande signing might do. It would also allow us to keep most of our budget for midfield.
 
OmarUnited4ever said:
from the YT clips he looks weak, Antony, for all his issues, was breezing by these defenders in the Eredivisie, so was Sancho in the BL, and they weren't that pacey, this is fella is skillful and he uses his body feints and quick foot to dribble past defenders, however, FBs in the PL will just use physicality to overpower such players unless they are very skillful and capable of quick thinking to compensate for their lack of explosiveness.
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He looks weak in the sense that he's not going to be physically pushing the opposition around, but he looks more able to ride the challenges and keep going than Antony or Sancho did.

Of course, doing that against Eredivisie defenders is a very different prospect than PL defenders. There's a fairly strong chance that the increased physicality of the PL would be a step too far for him. Especially as one of the Ajax supporters said he was less explosive than Antony, and you'd think they'd have a better idea of his abilities than what I get watching a youtube video.
 
Borninthe80ts said:
He looks a good player but more of a playmaker winger which I believe we have of a similar style of already.
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Really, who? Especially on the left wing.

Borninthe80ts said:
If we do invest in a wide player I would agree with the opinions that I’d like a player with a bit more direct pace and the ability the beat his man on the outside and cross from wide.
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Managers don't tend to go for that kind of winger nowadays. Crosses from out wide more come from full-backs. But if United wanted to sometimes deploy that kind of winger off the left they already have Dorgu.

Borninthe80ts said:
I wonder if his future could be more central though?
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I have thought this as well. He looks very creative, as if he could potentially also be a 10 a la Odegaard or Cherki. Ajax watchers on here with thoughts on that?

Bojan Djordjic said:
Has a bit of the maverick dribbler about him, is productive and doesn't seem like the kind of signing that would spook JJ Gabriel in terms of permanently blocking a pathway like a Diomande signing might do
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Diomande can switch to RW in future though, so Gabriel shouldn't be an issue.

If anything Godts is more similar to Gabriel than Diomande. The question would rather become if either Godts or Gabriel have a future instead as a 10, otherwise they would be very similar.
 
A developmental option at LW is fair enough IMO, as long as they can be part of the rotation right away. Cunha the main LW, Mbeumo and Amad fight for RW, Godts to develop at LW? So long as he truly has huge potential and has the right attributes (pace and actual ability to take players on).
 
MadDogg said:
He looks weak in the sense that he's not going to be physically pushing the opposition around, but he looks more able to ride the challenges and keep going than Antony or Sancho did.

Of course, doing that against Eredivisie defenders is a very different prospect than PL defenders. There's a fairly strong chance that the increased physicality of the PL would be a step too far for him. Especially as one of the Ajax supporters said he was less explosive than Antony, and you'd think they'd have a better idea of his abilities than what I get watching a youtube video.
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Indeed, his selling point is his ability on the ball, from dribbling to passing to finishing, if he is excellent in those and has the potential to improve in them, then lack of physicality wouldn't be an issue.
 
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