Marquinhos needs chances as Saka's deputy. The guy could be another Martinelli.
Mikel Arteta | Lego Pep watch
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
That's fair enough - but a youth team is obviously a different kettle of fish: I understand that you won't abandon a system you're drilling youngsters in just to grab a few points here and there.
That really isn't comparable to a coach having a "philosophy" he insists upon after working for several years with senior players who compete at the top level (where every point counts, as it were).
Really impressed with his works at Arsenal so far. It's not about getting top 4 or trophy. He has implemented a very exciting attacking style of play at Arsenal. City, Barca and Bayern might be interested if he keeps performing at Arsenal.
So we are the only ones to have beaten these upstarts so far.
A game every three / four days until part of November
Really interested to see how he manages through that period
He's defo suited to one game a week and think that has helped the starting line up so far.
Really interested to see how he manages through that period
He's defo suited to one game a week and think that has helped the starting line up so far.
With all the bullying fans give Maguire - it’s quite crazy how many things fans get wrong as well.
Arteta was ridiculed here for ages and is now proving a lot of us wrong.
Arteta was ridiculed here for ages and is now proving a lot of us wrong.
People don’t give him credit, cause they backed Ole hard over him. He is a good manager. Was clear from the start that he had a plan.
They are surely title contenders now and no one can doubt that.
A completely new team compared to the one he inherited. He’s still learning on the job, I’ll give you that - but he’s implemented a good play style mixed in with likeable characters in the squad.
he’s also facilitated the improvements within the stadium and the crowd to great effect. The fans are more vocal than ever.
however I don’t think he’s great at squad rotation. The queen hitting par for the course has helped massively and was a much needed break as it felt like part of the squad was overplayed. he doesn’t utilise 5 subs either.
he’s also facilitated the improvements within the stadium and the crowd to great effect. The fans are more vocal than ever.
however I don’t think he’s great at squad rotation. The queen hitting par for the course has helped massively and was a much needed break as it felt like part of the squad was overplayed. he doesn’t utilise 5 subs either.
I'm sure they'd have been satisfied with top four this season and they're already 8 points ahead of fourth and playing well.
A lot of the thing ETH will need to do to improve us, Arteta has done for Arsenal.
A lot of the thing ETH will need to do to improve us, Arteta has done for Arsenal.
do you expect Maguire to prove everyone wrong?
Marco Silva has got Fulham flying in 5th place, lookse like people here got that wrong as well as he's a pretty good manager after all.
He's getting by and winning, I think he can at least get top 4 which was probably the goal all along.
I foresee them going off the boil but they may be able to ride this good form train until the world cup which should be enough to secure top 4 barring a big 2023 collapse.
I foresee them going off the boil but they may be able to ride this good form train until the world cup which should be enough to secure top 4 barring a big 2023 collapse.
They can get through europa league just playing their B team so can't see the issue. Man. City game also been re-arranged which was due to be middle of October so it's not that bad a run of games, think they'll get something off Liverpool and end their really poor recent run v them.
They have a very good first XI now with few weaknesses. Barring injuries I'd be surprised if they don't finish top 3.
It took him 3 years to get to this point with a lack of pressure almost no other manager in the world at a top club would have had. It would also be a lie to say almost anybody outside the club thought he'd be a success after so many dips in form and patchy performances
Yes, it's great what he is doing now but it was never 'obvious' even before this season started
You gonna come and arrest me if I do?
We should give seminars on how to beat Arsenal, we've had their number for decades.
Well he did today, didn’t he? I think the squad depth isn’t quite there yet, I don’t think you would have gotten the same results whilst heavily rotating.
It has to be said the squad is extremely young, Xhaka the only player over 29 out there and everyone else bar Thomas being 25 or younger.
Bodes well for the future. If Arsenal can keep their star players and they age together they should form a great understanding. Already starting to show now and should be expected to get better.
As they don’t need any big changes they can buy some few luxury signings to add experience at the back and in midfield. They seem on a good path.
Now for it to all come crumbling down after Christmas with injuries exposing the bench and Saka letting Lego-Pep know he wants a play for the real Pep after the summer.
Yeah what's your address?
That's a good point. One or two injuries to key players and they would suffer.
Credit where it's due though, he has done a great and did well in getting rid of Ozil etc.
Good win, fully expect us to be 4th by the end of the month though. Still too brittle and the best teams will make us pay (Tottenham are a woeful team but their attack being the only thing keeping them afloat nearly did catch us out a few times)
That said, we're playing some really good football and I'm enjoying watching us after years, so can't really complain.
This start should make 4th spot increasingly a non-negotiable.
That said, we're playing some really good football and I'm enjoying watching us after years, so can't really complain.
This start should make 4th spot increasingly a non-negotiable.
Happy to beat Spurs, happy with how we're performing, but hopefully there's not too many getting carried away.
We're still prone to rashness and brain farts in defence mainly from Gabriel, we need to cut those out. Still think we are short in a couple if vital areas. Liverpool next league game will be a big test as well, let's see if we've got past our inferiority complex of them, thats another hurdle we need to show we can overcome.
We're still prone to rashness and brain farts in defence mainly from Gabriel, we need to cut those out. Still think we are short in a couple if vital areas. Liverpool next league game will be a big test as well, let's see if we've got past our inferiority complex of them, thats another hurdle we need to show we can overcome.
I think it's possible for you to be first by the start of November. No matter what the best way to build is from a foundation, Arsenal have that in their performances. For me performances wise you've been the best team in the league this season. All that's required is consistency.
Could they win the league? Anything is possible, especially if we beat or draw City tomorrow.
Game management is still a big issue that needs to be resolved. Time and time again they allowed 2v2 & 3v3 possibilities when they were in front. A better team, or even this Spurs team on a day when they dont screw up EVERY final ball, will expose that in the same way that United did.
Having said that the positives far outweighs the negatives. It was clear last season that something was developing and they've stepped forward again. Absolutely nailed on top four, but for me they'll be exposed by a wily European team, or United, in the Europa.
Having said that the positives far outweighs the negatives. It was clear last season that something was developing and they've stepped forward again. Absolutely nailed on top four, but for me they'll be exposed by a wily European team, or United, in the Europa.
You think they have a good chance with a 4 point lead at the start of October?
Much as it pains me to admit they look the best in the league consistency wise since 2008
Its probably in many ways your biggest test so far for that reason.
I remember when we had a similar hold on you (before ironically Conte fecked it up) that I was so confident of a result in the head to heads even in the Mou meltdown season.
Liverpool aren't that bad but similar to then it's a question of will it go to form or will the recent history of the fixture play a part once more?
Liverpool look weak (by their standards) all over to me, I think Arsenal's pace will create countless chances so key for them is to be clinical. Jota being out would be a boost as he's the sort that seems to have scored a decent amount v Arsenal down the years for Liverpool and Wolves.
So, so annoying to see them being this good.
I’d be happy to see them beat liverpool then after that they can have drop in form.
If the league wasn't bought and paid for by a state backed club, I'd start to believe that we're in a title race.
Don’t worry they’ll come unstuck soon enough.
I think you’ll turn us over next week. Martinelli vs Trent is going to be painful to watch for Liverpool fans.
You forget, you're playing Charity FC, we kickstarted Ten Hag's season. I I imagine we'll do the same for Klopp.
That was the team you're playing next weekend
Whatever you need to tell yourself
It's a bit different in terms of the players and the commitment around the entire club to do well this season.
yeah….no you didn’t.