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Also Jurrien Timber. Never happened in 7 seasons and then twice by 2 Arsenal players in a single game.quote
Arsenal are incredibly hard to like.
Also Jurrien Timber. Never happened in 7 seasons and then twice by 2 Arsenal players in a single game.quote
They're competing for a title in the same way as we were under Jose or Ole...but also with a far better squad and basically 0 interest or ability to go far in the cups.
Ten Hag's first season - a cup, a final and third is better than any Arteta season
You’re right! We keep winning trophies still.You're talking about the seasons where you finished 12 pts and 19 pts behind City and ended up 2nd because it was a poor league that year. We're not the same
True but then again atleast we don't have a history of cheating and getting managers by brown envelopesGreat coach, if the Arsenal board are smart they need to plan for getting in one of Dyche, Pulis or Neil Warnock for contuinity when he leaves
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Ole's season was a lot closer until that run of games where we had to play Liverpool, Leicester and two Europa semi legs and another tie in something like 9 days due to rescheduling. We fell off at the end but we were about 5 points behind til a long way in.You're talking about the seasons where you finished 12 pts and 19 pts behind City and ended up 2nd because it was a poor league that year. We're not the same
I mean they’d have taken a point but I tend to agree.I honestly can’t think of any other team so completely giving up on the notion of scoring a goal after going a man down. The more you think about it, the weirder it seems. Obviously G Nev et al were too busy wanking themselves silly about defenders defending but my God that was a craven response to adversity. I remember Liverpool going down to 9 men and making a better fist of being competitive than what we witnessed today. What a strange spectacle it was.
I actually agree but I don't think there's anyone other than Odegaard for those passes. Martinelli was gone by the 75th minute physically. Havertz normally excellent physically was no match for Kovacic or Walker. So anytime they got the ball it went nowhere.I mean they’d have taken a point but I tend to agree.
A real managerial masterclass would have been to set City up for a sucker punch 3rd on the break later on in the second half.
Arsenal just sat in.
Yah good point RE Odegaard. Definitely a weak spot now he’s gone.I actually agree but I don't think there's anyone other than Odegaard for those passes. Martinelli was gone by the 75th minute physically. Havertz normally excellent physically was no match for Kovacic or Walker. So anytime they got the ball it went nowhere.
I also wouldn't have minded Sterling coming on when we took Timber off. But I think the thinking was a point is better than 0 and every Arsenal fan would have taken 7/9 from Villa Spurs and City away. And despite our agreement on tactics we were so close.
Which makes us dropping garbage points at home time and again very strange. 10 clean sheets and out of 12/13 away games and no losses is good but the constant dropping clangers at home is where we lost the league last year too
City's depth is also insane. Kobacic for Rodri. Foden and Greaish off the bench. Oil helps I guess.
Yes and that was a weird move. It is OK to sit back but to sit back with 12 percent possession is basically asking for trouble. I thought city were terrible and if arsenal were a bit bold and held on to the ball a bit better they would have won this. The moment they got the ball they hoofed it for no good reason.I mean they’d have taken a point but I tend to agree.
A real managerial masterclass would have been to set City up for a sucker punch 3rd on the break later on in the second half.
Arsenal just sat in.
Agreed.Yes and that was a weird move. It is OK to sit back but to sit back with 12 percent possession is basically asking for trouble. I thought city were terrible and if arsenal were a bit bold and held on to the ball a bit better they would have won this. The moment they got the ball they hoofed it for no good reason.
Haha, does the names Henry Norris and George Graham ring a bell? Maybe you should google your own history a bit.True but then again atleast we don't have a history of cheating and getting managers by brown envelopes
They made a pretty good fist of it to be fair given they were 30 seconds away from winning the game.I honestly can’t think of any other team so completely giving up on the notion of scoring a goal after going a man down. The more you think about it, the weirder it seems. Obviously G Nev et al were too busy wanking themselves silly about defenders defending but my God that was a craven response to adversity. I remember Liverpool going down to 9 men and making a better fist of being competitive than what we witnessed today. What a strange spectacle it was.
They made a pretty good fist of it to be fair given they were 30 seconds away from winning the game.
The context of this approach was
1. Arsenal were already winning the game so didn't need to score
2. They were playing maybe the best team in Europe
3. No one actually expected Arsenal to win the game at half time, the best Arsenal could realistically ever hope for is a draw. A win would be a minor miracle.
It's a bit pointless comparing games where teams going down to 10 men when they actually need to score, or when they're playing against teams that are nowhere as good as City.
It was basically Inter at the Nou Camp vs Barcelona in 2010, it wasn't that weird.
Thats who you will go for when you go down next yearGreat coach, if the Arsenal board are smart they need to plan for getting in one of Dyche, Pulis or Neil Warnock for contuinity when he leaves
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He is 42 years old and in direct competition with Pep and Klopp. I think its obvious to even a simpleton Arteta is going to win big trophies. So glad he is our manager and has no desire to leaveJeez. Has there been any other coach who has been hyped like arteta for achieving so little.
Interesting, wonder what team you will draw yourself out of the title race against next year thenThats who you will go for when you go down next year
He may win in the future but till then he has won very little to be compared to Klopp let alone Jose or Pep.He is 42 years old and in direct competition with Pep and Klopp. I think its obvious to even a simpleton Arteta is going to win big trophies. So glad he is our manager and has no desire to leave
He is 42 years old. No Arsenal fan is arguing Arteta has a legacy comparable to the best. However, in terms of ability, he is one of the best managers presently competingHe may win in the future but till then he has won very little to be compared to Klopp let alone Jose or Pep.
My response was to the tactico guy who said arteta is the most complete manager alive, which is nonsense right now. There are other managers alive right now who are better than arteta right now. What may or may not happen in the future is not relevant. It is like someome saying Mainoo is the most complete midfielder alive right now and is going to be better than Vieira.He is 42 years old. No Arsenal fan is arguing Arteta has a legacy comparable to the best. However, in terms of ability, he is one of the best managers presently competing
He is 42 years old. No Arsenal fan is arguing Arteta has a legacy comparable to the best. However, in terms of ability, he is one of the best managers presently competing
Best thing about that, the player who won him that cup was apparently the problem.Based off what? Hes improved Arsenal that can’t be debated, but he’s spent an absolute fortune and won feck all. The trophy he did win wasn’t even with his squad, he got rid of them.
Why? We were winning 1-2 at the time away. Why jeopardize that? The plan almost succeeded until the last minute.I honestly can’t think of any other team so completely giving up on the notion of scoring a goal after going a man down. The more you think about it, the weirder it seems. Obviously G Nev et al were too busy wanking themselves silly about defenders defending but my God that was a craven response to adversity. I remember Liverpool going down to 9 men and making a better fist of being competitive than what we witnessed today. What a strange spectacle it was.
How is 10% possession for 45+ mins a good plan to hold onto a lead?Why? We were winning 1-2 at the time away. Why jeopardize that? The plan almost succeeded until the last minute.
How is 10% possession for 45+ mins a good plan to hold onto a lead?
How is 10% possession for 45+ mins a good plan to hold onto a lead?
Spot on. Couldn’t have put it in a better wayHe's obviously a good manager but so easy to hate. Uses so many of the "dirty" tactics knowing that the officials are weak, yet complains when he doesn't get any call in his favour. Constantly out of his technical area trying to get involved by holding onto the ball when it's out of bounds or running down the sideline.
Arsenal are the Athletic Madrid of the Prem, using any tactic they can to get a result. It works but opposition fans will hate it.
Yes. It's Arsenal paying Mancini and City players money via fake consultancy jobs, shell companies and facing 115 charges.Haha, does the names Henry Norris and George Graham ring a bell? Maybe you should google your own history a bit.
So by that logic, your manager and idol is a cheater too, right?Yes. It's Arsenal paying Mancini and City players money via fake consultancy jobs, shell companies and facing 115 charges.
Plastic club, soulless from its ground to its fans, only relevant because of corruption.
Worst comes to worst I have the satisfaction of knowing my club aren't cheats denying other teams trophies.
I despise Spurs, have a rivalry with United but I know they haven't cheated their way to trophies
You guys are just like Arteta, all mouth but spineless. Neither your manager nor your fans have the bottle for a race. We're 5 games in and your melting down after being gifted two goals by a referee.Yes. It's Arsenal paying Mancini and City players money via fake consultancy jobs, shell companies and facing 115 charges.
Plastic club, soulless from its ground to its fans, only relevant because of corruption.
Worst comes to worst I have the satisfaction of knowing my club aren't cheats denying other teams trophies.
I despise Spurs, have a rivalry with United but I know they haven't cheated their way to trophies