They need to sign Harry Kane.
Mikel Arteta | Lego Pep watch
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Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) discuss United's fantastic win away against Athletic Club in the semi-final of the Europa League.
They also pick out the positives of United's 4-3 loss away at Brentford, and Nik reviews a day out at Old Trafford watching Manchester United Women qualify for the Champions League.
Someone must make another Amazon documentary getting to the bottom of this. And lining Jeff Bezos’ coffers with more money, more world power and more havoc is not ‘nothing’, though I wish it was
Just confused faces trying to "get" what he's saying.
Should I create a spark? Am I the spark? What happens once I pass the light and energy and passion? Also, technically Edison didn't invent the light bulb, should I point this out to the boss?
Saw this somewhere: "Crazy to think Ten Hag came and left, built arguably the worst Man United squad in premier league history, and still managed to win more trophies than Arteta has with Arsenal."
I'm not sure what you are getting at. I'm not saying Arsenal had more chances, i know PSG had a lot as well. But PSG were more clinical with their chances, hence the reason why they scored 3 over the 2 legs & we only scored 1.
It's not like i'm saying anything controversial, it's been something repeated everywhere including on here time and time again. Arsenal have under invested in the forward areas in comparison to the rest of the team. Compare the 4 semi finalists, would you take the set of options Arsenal had available over any of the others sets?
Our top scorer is a midfielder / forward hybrid who hasn't reached double figures in goals and has been sitting in the stand the last couple of months.
This is deep, Confucian style wisdom!
Very balanced take, and completely fair. The game was close despite the scoreline and missed pen. I think over 180 minutes PSG deserved winners but with someone who could finish it woulda been on a knife edge. In the end PSG just had too much firepower and depth up top.
It's a big summer for you guys I feel. This season seems like one where lack of a real goal scorer came back to bite you. Liverpool had Salah on fire early doors and that was enough in the end.
Scoring under 2 goals per game just won't win titles in any of the big comps. You need a little more end product for all the front 5 bar Saka and absolutely need someone who'll score 15+ league goals. Even if an Isak, Haaland, Salah is out of reach, even a Chris Wood, Ollie Watkins etc.. would improve you guys drastically.
I think what I'm saying is we can talk about Arsenal not taking their chances last night but it also has to mentioned PSG should have ended it as a contest last week with the chances they missed.
I don’t think it was just a case of who took their chances. One team was clearly better at football than the other.
You're right about Arsenal's choice of forwards not being good enough. But is that under investment or bad investment?
I'm no scout but was scratching my head at Havertz.
And Sterling was another level of baffling.(no fee obviously but I'm guessing on a substantial wage).
It's a telling state of affairs when his bloody set piece coach gets as much air time as he does. Spanish Tony Pulis is right. But he is the Spanish Allardyce. Because he, like Allardyce, thinks he should be the Barcelona manager.
The guys a fraud.
The guys a fraud.
I think it’s so interesting that he was a player under Wenger and coached under Guardiola but has shown far more similarities to Moyes style coaching than he has the latter.
The physicality, getting to the byline with quick wingers, emphasis on fitness and playing cautiously with the right amount of defensive players on the pitch.
I am not even saying it’s right or wrong, I just find it really interesting.
The physicality, getting to the byline with quick wingers, emphasis on fitness and playing cautiously with the right amount of defensive players on the pitch.
I am not even saying it’s right or wrong, I just find it really interesting.
Arsenal fans over on Goonersworld are not happy with him for sure. Saw a beautiful quote there, "he is like late stage Mourinho without the charisma".
He seems like such an insufferable wanker. I’m surprised the players have tolerated him this long.
I think it was nonsense they were doing for their documentary.
It’s just patently untrue and completely sour grapes.
The league winners are always the best side and Liverpool have coasted to the title with Arsenal al posing next to no title challenge. Plus their football is so utterly boring and dependant on set plays.
Liverpool are comfortably better. Injuries or not, Arsenal have regressed as a side from last year.
This argument always surprises me. Is that really it? They’re are obviously a good side and it would simply be lying to suggest otherwise, but I’m not confident that’s the ‘final’ piece which will have a transformative effect.
AI is shite.
He's done relatively well there, but I've seen him as a Brendan with European flair. A bit of a bluffer. And the way he handles pressure solidifies that.
talking about how overrated his rebuilt has been- just saw the players that he’s signed with the money that he spent. It is crazy that there’s only been a few players out of 30 odd players that he bought that you can call quality signings. There’s reason to why he won one trophy with the players that he inherited from previous managers.
He actually is a brilliant coach and that's coming from someone who didn't rate him initially atall , his problem seem to be in his effort to master the percentages and minimise the risk he has lost attacking balance somewhat and veered too much into defensive organisation he needs to let his team play and loosen up a bit .
He must be some coach then eh?
In fairness, we'd take that rate of success at United over the last 12 years!
He’s brilliant.
Some coach? Again he’s won nothing more than FA cup. If your fan base is happy with the success he’s had then fine. He is arsenal’s poch. An elite club shouldn’t tolerate his in ability to win anything.
He must be some coach then eh?
He’s more David Brent than Rogers!
Government grant level motivational speaking.
This genuinely looks like an episode of The Office.
It really does.
Heh.
Kinda, almost
Scroll forward to around the 7 min mark.
"First of all congratulations to PSG, they're in the final. It's not about marriage it's all about what the score line shows".
Wouldn't surprise me if he said the same thing to his wife. He's lost the plot man.
He said merit not marriage.
Not that it makes it any better but at least more understandable.
I mean, he took over a broken team, your basically saying most of his transfers have been poor, but somehow Arsenal have went from 8th to the 2nd best team in the country for perhaps 3 consecutive seasons and now, last 4 in Europe?
So someone, somewhere must be doing something right? The players bought have been poor, the coach isn't a good coach, and yet here we are, falling upwards?
There's still a chance Arsenal lose 2 of their last 3 and finish outside the top 5. Although it would require Utd to lose to both Villa and Chelsea.
It would still be kind of funny.
It would still be kind of funny.
We can definitely play our part in that scenario.
Hopefully the 4 points gap to 5th will be enough in that scenario. If not we need to beat Southampton last game, or a draw might be enough depending on other results.
The fact teams still have to play each other helps, Newcastle Vs Chelsea today, Forest vs Chelsea last game so teams are guaranteed to drop points there
Has he taken credit for all City's trophies while he was on the staff? Thing is about qualifying for the CL, yes it brings money in, but it only brings good memories if you actually win it. To me it is all about the memories about seeing my team winning trophies.
Disagree with this. United have only won the European Cup three times but I have plenty of great memories growing up watching us win games in the Champions League.
Quarter final vs Roma in 07, semi final vs Arsenal in 09, comeback in Paris in 2019.
Sure it’s disappointing to not win the competition but you can still look back on great memories.