Well said. He's up there with Roberto Martinez for me.
Still can't believe he was given the Belgium job and now Portugal. Two teams with stacked international squads and he has them playing like Wigan.
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Well said. He's up there with Roberto Martinez for me.
Still can't believe he was given the Belgium job and now Portugal. Two teams with stacked international squads and he has them playing like Wigan.
If you're not willing to donate a kidney to see someone fail, are you even a true football fan ?!
The Arteta "connected" team talk with the lightbulb is an all-time classic.
If you haven't seen its an absolute must watch
If you haven't seen its an absolute must watch
I think mourinho used to quote Einstein at madrid and wenger used to quote obama and others for inspiration.
I'd give a kidney to see that.he defo must have shat in your cornflakes or something!
I guess you're not a fan then...
Barry Glendenning was hilarious on Football Weekly: "when Arteta is on the touchline, a winger needs to absolutely take him out for good"
I know people joke about it but the touch line thing is a genuine issue that can impact a players focus and decision making. I have no idea why it’s allowed to go on. Simeone isn’t any better.
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What is the point of having a designated area if the rule is his entirely ignored for virtually the entirety of the game? So odd.
I think mourinho stopped an opposition player taking a throw at porto.
I’ve read what you’ve said, and I still think I hate him more than you do.
It’s actually mad. Bar probably Michael Owen (and it’s at the point it’s getting close), I can’t think I’ve ever viscerally despised someone in football so much. I’m not normally the guy that wants to throw things at the telly, but he just brings out so much rage in me, and it’s evidently not just a “me” thing.
It's endearing when Simeone does it. When Arteta does it, it's basically a war crime.
Why do people even care about the amount of time spent in the technical area?
Some media outlet did an analysis last year and Arteta was predictably high but only like 4th or 5th among PL managers. There are a whole group of these guys that just want to stalk around and shout during the match and of course they exist in other countries too like we just saw from Simeone. But who cares? It doesn't meaningfully impact the match or the viewing experience unless you're just looking for something to be bothered by.
Some media outlet did an analysis last year and Arteta was predictably high but only like 4th or 5th among PL managers. There are a whole group of these guys that just want to stalk around and shout during the match and of course they exist in other countries too like we just saw from Simeone. But who cares? It doesn't meaningfully impact the match or the viewing experience unless you're just looking for something to be bothered by.
He can spend all the time he wants in the technical area. That's why it's there. The problem is that he isn't in the technical area, he's usually right on the sideline, too close to the action.
On more than one occasion he has deliberately positioned himself too close to the touchline when opposition wingers are trying to run down the line. Is it really hard to see why non-Arsenal fans would find that a problem?
That's what I'm saying. Why do you care if he is in the technical area or just outside?
Obviously interfering with play is not allowed and actually should be punished. But that's not really what people are complaining about.
Have you ever watched a football game? Players use the entire pitch and sometimes a bit more.
Loads of people have been complaining about it. Have you not seen?
If he's actually interfering with play, then of course its a huge violation. I don't think that is happening very often.
If staying in the technical area is such a big issue, rather than just being a stick to beat Arteta with, then why isn't there a Fabian Hurzeler, or Nuno Espirito Santo, or Unai Emery thread with constant complaining about it? Those three I remember being measured as spending more time outside the technical area than Arteta.
Isn’t it obvious? Arteta is a wanker that everyone hates. The others are alright.
Is this a serious post? It’s actually impressive how far some Arsenal fans will go to defend this shite.
I think he makes a decent point though. There's definitely a number of posters on here who only hate Arsenal/Arteta for certain behaviours but ignore it when other clubs/managers display that exact same behavior
For example there's one I've seen who keeps referencing that he hates Arsenal because we played and supported Partey. Which is a totally valid reason to hate us, except this poster also wants PSG to do well despite the fact they're currently playing an alleged rapist in their team and their fans displayed a banner showing their "total support" for said alleged rapist.
How have I not seen this before!
To be fair to Arteta, I think he's done an incredible job at Arsenal, and I'd much rather they win the league and CL over any plastic oil club.
The fact Arsenal fans are referring to the measurements of how long Arteta spends outside his technical area is amusing
Rules are rules though (or not in the PL).
Stay in your box or be punished. Should be the same for all.
Rules are rules though (or not in the PL).
Stay in your box or be punished. Should be the same for all.
"Yes but we all quote Einstein from time to time" - Albert Einstein
If he looked more masculine, he'd be worshipped like all other pragmatic managers on the caf.
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Absolutely. Too much of a metrosexual. Should change his look to something resembling Sean Dyche.
I find it a bit strange, especially considering the "study" that has been cited has no qualitative criteria in it - it's just minutes spent outside the technical area - so a manager standing 50cm in front of it most of a game with his arms crossed would appear as a worse offender as Arteta. The big issue with Arteta's indiscipline is how far he tends to go and how active he is, actively trying to impact the opposition with this shitty tactic.The fact Arsenal fans are referring to the measurements of how long Arteta spends outside his technical area is amusing
Rules are rules though (or not in the PL).
Stay in your box or be punished. Should be the same for all.
I feel like Arsenal fans on here (and I guess elsewhere) are actively posting in bad faith or just aren't very bright. It's like a few months ago when the chat around their set piece shitehousing was at its strongest, they would highlight other times scoring from set pieces, and I remember one specific poster on here gloating after Utd had scored 2 really nice set piece goals with slick combinations (and I think City scored a good one too the same match day) to the tune of "ah yeah scoring set piece goals are we I'm sure you're all gonna be outraged". It's not particularly the fact that they've scored set piece goals that is annoying to some, it's their way of scoring them and their rugby routine.
I don't have an issue with fans of a club being happy with a title win 20 years on, but I do struggle with the rationale of coming onto an opposition team's forum to actively troll or post in bad faith.
That’s a good observation. Look. Anyone with a working set of eyes knows Arteta acts like a dickhead on the touchline and I suspect every single Arsenal fan knows it too. Trying to compare him to Hurzeler for example is ridiculous.
Most of our oppos here are posting in bad faith. We know that.
Arteta is too much on the sidelines at times, but we seem to be a magnet for over the top analysis from Neville & co. about nearly everything we do and it's trickles down to become the narrative.
Every day we have to hear we are the worst fans in the world, all of us. People keep referencing something I've not even seen about claiming we're better than 08' United, so that means we're all awful. Yeah we have some dickheads like every other club but I don't judge you on your worst. Don't judge us on AFTV dickheads.
The celebration police battered us yesterday. O'Hara, Agbonlahor, Hasslebaink, several articles, all ignoring the fact every team celebrates if they reach the champions league final. PSG's firework display last year put ours to shame.
We're at the point now where it's apparently acceptable for paid television pundits to say in studio how much they want to punch a football manager in the face. It's ridiculous.
I don't come on here to troll, or post in bad faith. I'm biased to my team, of course I am. I come on here because it's usually by far the most civil place to talk about football.
Sorry I'm stressed with work and an ill family member, this just set my thumbs off feel free to ignore.
Every day we have to hear we are the worst fans in the world, all of us. People keep referencing something I've not even seen about claiming we're better than 08' United, so that means we're all awful. Yeah we have some dickheads like every other club but I don't judge you on your worst. Don't judge us on AFTV dickheads.
The celebration police battered us yesterday. O'Hara, Agbonlahor, Hasslebaink, several articles, all ignoring the fact every team celebrates if they reach the champions league final. PSG's firework display last year put ours to shame.
We're at the point now where it's apparently acceptable for paid television pundits to say in studio how much they want to punch a football manager in the face. It's ridiculous.
I don't come on here to troll, or post in bad faith. I'm biased to my team, of course I am. I come on here because it's usually by far the most civil place to talk about football.
Sorry I'm stressed with work and an ill family member, this just set my thumbs off
feel free to ignore.So you think that was an argument in bad faith rather than a tongue in cheek comment? If that's how sensitive you're going to be to comments from Arsenal fans on here it's no wonder you think we're all arguing in bad faith
Firstly, it doesn't help that Arteta does this AND constantly acts like a twat. Also, we obviously watch a lot more Arsenal games so we notice it more.
Nobody should be doing it.
They won't win the CL final. But I think PSG winning it two years in a row is a bit sad really. God, I am bored with football honestly.
Down to their ownership? Because I think they play really good football, and while two years in a row is not great, it's better than the Real Madrid dominance we had a few years ago. And just at surface level, it's not a bad thing to have a French team involved as well. I've quite enjoyed how we have four semi-finalists from four different leagues this year.
My comment was more a meta-comment regarding elite football in Europe nowadays. I'm not preaching from the anti-Saudi or anti-oil ownership bandwagon, I'm just burnt out from the dynamics that shape modern day football. I can appreciate the literal day-to-day work Luis Enrique and the players do. But they are also in a very fortunate situation.
All of this and I'm not even that old of an old codger. It's a bad sign that I'm in a phase of watching old season reviews from about 88 to 92 isn't it? Ha!