What does that have to do with anything?
Mikel Arteta plays down speculation linking him to Barca job
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What does that have to do with anything?
What does your post have to do with anything? When did Arsenal have our number and if you did for a very brief period, we pretty soon after made you our whipping boys.
Although I'm not sure what any of this has to do with the topic.
They've changed the headlines now for Barca, well played by their PR department.
Barca need a fall guy for why they are about to become a mid table team, might as well be a shit manager that takes the blame.
Barca need a fall guy for why they are about to become a mid table team, might as well be a shit manager that takes the blame.
Arteta shouldn't have gotten the job in the first place at a club as big as Arsenal. He did some learning on the job and made some significant mistakes that hurt the club. But I think he has improved over time and there is actually quite a lot to like about how the team is currently playing.
People understandably dwell on his loyalty to Willian and the poor run of results last fall but you could keep absolutely everything about the team and season exactly the same and if Arsenal had simply had a normal (ie, 0-1) number of games getting players sent off, rather than having this happen in four very winnable matches against bottom half of the table competition (getting 2/12 points from those matches in the end), they'd be on something like 43-45 points right now and right in the thick of the race for top four. No club is going to succeed when you're giving away that many points completely unnecessarily. If Chelsea, for example, had players sent off in four matches this year, they'd almost certainly be right around where we are in the table, irrespective of everything else. Some of that is on Arteta, as the manager needs to make it clear that you can't do stupid shit on the field. But it was also senior players like Xhaka really letting him down.
People understandably dwell on his loyalty to Willian and the poor run of results last fall but you could keep absolutely everything about the team and season exactly the same and if Arsenal had simply had a normal (ie, 0-1) number of games getting players sent off, rather than having this happen in four very winnable matches against bottom half of the table competition (getting 2/12 points from those matches in the end), they'd be on something like 43-45 points right now and right in the thick of the race for top four. No club is going to succeed when you're giving away that many points completely unnecessarily. If Chelsea, for example, had players sent off in four matches this year, they'd almost certainly be right around where we are in the table, irrespective of everything else. Some of that is on Arteta, as the manager needs to make it clear that you can't do stupid shit on the field. But it was also senior players like Xhaka really letting him down.
Arsenal is under performing this season given its wage bill and transfer fee spent over last 2 summer windows. However i have seen enough positive sign and willing to give Arteta time. Player recruitment needs to be better though as Pepe and Wilian are not money well spent, and this is not pointing finger to Arteta for it as nowadays it is DOF or transfer committee make decision. I hope we can keep Odegaard next season either on loan or on a permanent deal.
I think Arteta is getting is being treated slightly unfairly on here. Yes, we’re sitting at 10th but ultimately we’re only 5 points away from being amongst contending for European places this season. There’s been plenty of positives since we’ve switched formation from the Chelsea game to suggest that our form will pick up.
Although 11 defeats is obviously a huge amount, I’d say it was only the 3-0 defeat to Villa we were embarrassed. Lots of the the other defeats were a bit closer and the result could have changed on another day. We have probably lost at least 6 points due to stupid decisions by the players receiving 4 red cards so far. Luiz and Xhaka are especially guilty.
Very interested to see what we can do in the summer now that he’s settled on a tactic. Lots of players to get rid of though which won’t be easy especially in the current climate. If we are still in this position this time next year, then we should definitely start looking elsewhere.
Although 11 defeats is obviously a huge amount, I’d say it was only the 3-0 defeat to Villa we were embarrassed. Lots of the the other defeats were a bit closer and the result could have changed on another day. We have probably lost at least 6 points due to stupid decisions by the players receiving 4 red cards so far. Luiz and Xhaka are especially guilty.
Very interested to see what we can do in the summer now that he’s settled on a tactic. Lots of players to get rid of though which won’t be easy especially in the current climate. If we are still in this position this time next year, then we should definitely start looking elsewhere.
Are Barca that broke they will hire someone just for being Spanish?
He's Basque
Think Tuchel would've been a really good pick up for them.
Allegri's style probably wouldn't fit with their ethos and he feels more Real Madrid type if Zidane leaves end of season.
It's basically going to be Xavi isn't it? Not sure who Laporte's number one pick to be coach is actually going to be given he can't tempt Pep back for next few years so can see him switching and getting him in if he wins the election.
Yup if it was based on nationality, like some are suggesting, then there's 0 chance he's getting offered the job or that he would accept and hypothetical offer.He's Basque
Barca "He is not part of our tribe, we reject him"
I see you’ve reached the “it’s the players fault” stage of supporting an under-performing team led by an under-qualified manager. Relatable.
We were, difference is we did something about it.
Sorry for the long post, I'm stuck on 9 likes so ran out of posts yesterday, but I just wanted to address a couple of points, so bear with me.
Now on to Dan.
I don't know where Planet Football plucked its figure's from, but here's Swiss Rambles take on wages & he uses figures from accounts. Still not great, but there was no way we were 2nd highest.
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Now on to Dan.
Planet football does actually give the source. Spotrac.
They do seem to have it wrong though. Arsenal has the 5th highest wage bill. As per Swiss Ramble.
My point stands though. The top six spend way more than the rest. From City down to Spurs there’s a difference of 7m. From Spurs to the next in line there’s a huge drop of 45m. Any ‘top six’ manager whose club finds itself utside the top six is failing badly. Arsenal are currently 9th. And have been lower down the table for most of this season.
Not anymore
Brilliant, thanks mate.Not anymore
Yeah, I can't disagree with you, I think this squad should be about 5th or 6th, so anything below is underachieving. I actually think if we were concentrating on the league we could make 6th still, but I think he might concentrate on the Europa League games & rotate a bit in the league, & although Willian & Pepe look to finally be in a bit of form, they'd need to really keep that up if we rotate & I can't say I'm positive they will.
Koeman's doing a good job, I watch a lot of Barca games and you can see it's starting to come together and he's giving a lot of playing time to youth. He's not going anywhere, a lot of players have been going on record that they are believing in what he's doing. As long as it's going uphill he's going to be there for a couple of years, rebuilding, implementing a lot of youth and rebuilding backed by a solid board of Barca lovers.
Came on here to write something similar so thanks for saving me the trouble. Good post.
Good luck in Barcelona mate 
Points dropped like today surely only emphasise the fact that there’s only so much he can do. It’s not his fault that Xhaka screwed up- he’s a decent player but is culpable to errors and perhaps Pepe should have started but we would have won that game 9 times out of 10. Luck was not with us and we most definitely should have had a pen.Good luck in Barcelona mate