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The recent case with DDG was made public by the recipient.How would anyone find out about an anonymous charity donation then?
The recent case with DDG was made public by the recipient.How would anyone find out about an anonymous charity donation then?
Yeah I read that on here. It's just all a PR nightmare in the first place. The health secretary was out of order, IMO.Because yesterday our health secretary just called out footballers for not taking a pay cut to pay for the non-playing staff that are getting furloughed, rather than making the billionaires who own the clubs and employ the guys to pay for them.
Because the people at the charity who takes the donation or deals with the money always unofficially tells everyone they know!How would anyone find out about an anonymous charity donation then?
Lots of footballers are very active with charitable work and make significant donations. They just don’t shout about it.You're right, it would surprise me. If that's the case, fair play to them. Maybe my thoughts about footballers and charities have been coloured by the embarrassing lack of uptake with previous attempts to publicly get them to donate to high profile causes. And the ubiquity of photographers when they visit a hospital for sick kids.
And if they do, it works out to the benefit of the involved party.Lots of footballers are very active with charitable work and make significant donations. They just don’t shout about it.
Not that it stops idiots saying they’re “doing it for the tax benefits” which has never made even the slightest bit of sense.And if they do, it works out to the benefit of the involved party.
How does that even make sense?I'd rather that money go straight to the club or government than any nebulous organisation. It's ultimately fans money that is being spent, not the players.
Grinch mode off - it's probably easier to convince players to do this act of philanthropy than it is to take a pay cut before the governments ominous "windfall tax" tears in to any club furloughing their staff.
As I said though I want Manchester United to survive this virus too.
I must have missed that bit (I usually watch the daily briefings but missed some due to work yesterday). Googling it he said: “Given the sacrifices that many people are making, including some of my colleagues in the NHS who have made the ultimate sacrifice of going into work and have caught the disease and have sadly died, I think the first thing that Premier League footballers can do is make a contribution, take a pay cut and play their part.”Because yesterday our health secretary just called out footballers for not taking a pay cut to pay for the non-playing staff that are getting furloughed, rather than making the billionaires who own the clubs and employ the guys to pay for them.
The money in his bank account belongs to his employer, not him.How does that even make sense?
Where do you think the money that is paid to the players comes from exactly?How does that even make sense?
Sadly there's far too many of them. In a more cut throat time, evolution might've bred them out. But now, they're just here to get manipulated for the benefit of the very few and the detriment of the rest.Not that it stops idiots saying they’re “doing it for the tax benefits” which has never made even the slightest bit of sense.
Probably you must take maths classes for 1st grade again.Manchester Uniteds monthly wage bill is around £11,8 million for the first team.
This means that Manchester United (*assuming Alexis Sanchez also donates 30%) donates £3,556 million GBP every week to Manchester hospitals. That will buy a LOT of life saving equipment. Bravo Harry, and the players who signed off.
So if I work for BMW/Audi/Ford, who does my money belong to?Where do you think the money that is paid to the players comes from exactly?
Out of the generosity of the Glazers?
Football clubs are an interesting hybrid of public service, charity and business.The money in his bank account belongs to his employer, not him.
Eh?It's ultimately fans money that is being spent, not the players.
If it's money they get paid for doing their job, it's their money.I'd rather that money go straight to the club or government than any nebulous organisation. It's ultimately fans money that is being spent, not the players.
Grinch mode off - it's probably easier to convince players to do this act of philanthropy than it is to take a pay cut before the governments ominous "windfall tax" tears in to any club furloughing their staff.
As I said though I want Manchester United to survive this virus too.
I mean the article mentions donating to Manchester hospitals? Are those nefarious organizations? Just because you're making a charitable donation doesn't mean you're donating to a corrupt corporation-like charity.I'd rather that money go straight to the club or government than any nebulous organisation. It's ultimately fans money that is being spent, not the players.
Grinch mode off - it's probably easier to convince players to do this act of philanthropy than it is to take a pay cut before the governments ominous "windfall tax" tears in to any club furloughing their staff.
As I said though I want Manchester United to survive this virus too.
That "somewhere" is the Common Goal charity that Juan Mata co-founded with Streetfootballworld in 2017. Mata is currently on the steering board. He, and all its members donate 1% of their salaries that go into a slush fund that gets donated to numerous football charities globally. https://www.common-goal.org/Bugs me when people try to shame these guys in to parting with their wages. Lots will already have foundations and charities they support. Doesn’t Mata already give 5% of his wages somewhere. Take in to account that yes they make 100’s of thousands a week but some probably still live to their limit and to boot they probably already support a number of dependants From brothers, sisters, uncles, cousins, close friends and so on.
Its a fantastic gesture but in no way should they be shamed or forced in to it.
Ok. Educate me. <3.Probably you must take maths classes for 1st grade again.
It's the hospitals around Manchester. Though I wouldn't begrudge players choosing to help other charities too - for example if Bailly would rather his 30% goes to help some charity in Ivory Coast/Africa who might eventually be in a lot more trouble than those of us lucky enough to live in a well off country.I haven't read the article, but is there a specific charity that he's targeting to give the proceeds to? It would be good if it's to the healthcare industry who need all the help they can get currently - whether it's money for buying more equiptment/ventilators/masks etc.
Great gesture by our captain.
You say the wages are 11 million per month and then say they will donate 30% which is 3.3 million per week.Ok. Educate me. <3.
Edit: Ohhhhh, I see. I made a edit previously in my first post since I forgot to add Sanchez's salary and forgot the bottom line there. MY BAD CHIEF. - Why be such a prick about it though?
Agree- with politicians using footballers as a deflection tactic, it's fair enough that they 'want to be seen' to be doing something positive and making a meaningful donation, 30%, will at least make a difference.There are several players who have made 6 figure donations without saying anything, including Manchester United players. The "want to be seen" part comes from the public outcry that will 100% happen if everyone who feels entitled to know everything, get's to believe that football players collect grossly enormous salaries for being couped up in their extravagant homes. So going public with the donations is the only way to avoid massive public backlash. I'm sure you understand.
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You could say the same about Tesco staff's wages or nurses' pay. It's a stupid argument.Where do you think the money that is paid to the players comes from exactly?
Out of the generosity of the Glazers?
You don't end up paying less tax individually. If you gift aid your donation as a taxpayer, the organisation can claim another 25p per pound you donate directly from the government. The idea behind it is that, your donation was from your net income which has already been taxed at 20%.Not sure how it is in the UK, but at least where i am from you can write donations to certain organizations off on your taxes. Meaning that eve if you donate money to a hospital, red cross or your local chess club you would end up paying a bit less in taxes. It applies to both individuals and companies.
I agree with you on this. My thoughts exactly. No doubt about Harry's intentions but now he put players in situation "Give or be a bastard"..
I have no doubt that Maguire has the best of intentions and at the end of the day, the recipients don't care if the doners were under pressure to give but if someone like Pobga/De Gea/Sanchez (big earners) prefers to do his own thing charity-wise, this will put a big target on them for morons.
You seriously think he's just come out and put his team mates on the spot like this?I agree with you on this. My thoughts exactly. No doubt about Harry's intentions but now he put players in situation "Give or be a bastard".
I personally don't like when someone puts you in situation when you must do something. Especially when someone is telling others what they should do with their money.
He could have just open account for help and say to all people; "Please donate if you want/can and you decide how much you want to donate".
If anything it's better than giving it to the government, where it takes forever to find its way to the end user and what they buy usually ends up costing double. I donated some money to my local hospital, they had a €350k shopping list of items they can now go and buy immediately thanks to the community donations.I mean the article mentions donating to Manchester hospitals? Are those nefarious organizations? Just because you're making a charitable donation doesn't mean you're donating to a corrupt corporation-like charity.
Yeah we've thrown a curve ball at the majority of PL clubs who can afford to pay all their staff, but were going to fob it off on the players. A few of them might come out looking a bit sheepish."Premier League clubs to consult players on 30% wage cut as resumption delayed"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52148955
I'm guessing United have seen this coming and have headed down a different path by talking with the players.