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Remember the time when we signed 5-6 of Huddersfield's prospects when their academy closed? Are they still at the club or have they been released?
Sam Murray is still at the club.
Don't know who other kids were.
 

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Remember the time when we signed 5-6 of Huddersfield's prospects when their academy closed? Are they still at the club or have they been released?
As far as I know Marshall Burke, Sam Murray & Sonny Pickup are still with us but the others have left
 

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Why is it dodgy ??
I'm not saying it IS dodgy, just that it sounds dodgy.

As in we were are doing a favor to Bruno's family member by signing his other client. I am making completely unfounded accusations, and it is all fantasy shit, but still.... it sounds dodgy.

Unless this lad is legit, in which case I reserve the right to claim to be on board with his signing since day 1.
 

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I'm not saying it IS dodgy, just that it sounds dodgy.

As in we were are doing a favor to Bruno's family member by signing his other client. I am making completely unfounded accusations, and it is all fantasy shit, but still.... it sounds dodgy.

Unless this lad is legit, in which case I reserve the right to claim to be on board with his signing since day 1.
It really does not, we have no reason to sign anyone when Fernandes is already signed. If we are looking at him, then it is because he should be good enough talent for us to sign.
 

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It really does not, we have no reason to sign anyone when Fernandes is already signed. If we are looking at him, then it is because he should be good enough talent for us to sign.
Is it possible that as part of the Fernandes negotiations, or even to get to the table with his agent in the first place, that we would agree to sign his other client as well?

Instead of paying him some insane agent fee, we do this little side deal as a favor.
 

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I'm not saying it IS dodgy, just that it sounds dodgy.

As in we were are doing a favor to Bruno's family member by signing his other client. I am making completely unfounded accusations, and it is all fantasy shit, but still.... it sounds dodgy.

Unless this lad is legit, in which case I reserve the right to claim to be on board with his signing since day 1.
It looks as if you’ve mmade a dodgy claim. The claim isn’t necessarily dodgy, though, it merely looks dodgy.
 

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Is it possible that as part of the Fernandes negotiations, or even to get to the table with his agent in the first place, that we would agree to sign his other client as well?

Instead of paying him some insane agent fee, we do this little side deal as a favor.
No, that makes no sense. Fernandes is already our player, we have no obligation to buy any one else now if we don't want to. If we don't think he is talented enough, we are not going to buy him just to facilitate a deal that is already done.

It literally makes no sense to buy a player, and a youth player at that, if we have no need for him or don't rate his talent, as part of a deal that is already done and dusted.
 

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No, that makes no sense. Fernandes is already our player, we have no obligation to buy any one else now if we don't want to. If we don't think he is talented enough, we are not going to buy him just to facilitate a deal that is already done.

It literally makes no sense to buy a player, and a youth player at that, if we have no need for him or don't rate his talent, as part of a deal that is already done and dusted.
Mate my point is that we would have made the agreement before Fernandes was our player, or at the same time as he was signing to become our player. This young lad, the agents other client, would have been part of the deal. It would be a package deal. We buy Bruno now, and then the young lad in the summer.

I think football clubs do dodgy deals with agents all the time, and just threw out a chance that this could be one such situation. If you still feel so strongly that this just isn't in the realm of possibility, than fair enough. I will leave it alone and wish you well for the weekend!
 

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Mate my point is that we would have made the agreement before Fernandes was our player, or at the same time as he was signing to become our player. This young lad, the agents other client, would have been part of the deal. It would be a package deal. We buy Bruno now, and then the young lad in the summer.

I think football clubs do dodgy deals with agents all the time, and just threw out a chance that this could be one such situation. If you still feel so strongly that this just isn't in the realm of possibility, than fair enough. I will leave it alone and wish you well for the weekend!
And my point is that it makes no sense whatsoever. If we wanted to do a package deal, why wait to sign him ?? We would have signed them together if we wanted to do that, but we did not. Now, after Fernandes is already signed, we literally have no obligation to sign him if we don't want to.

There is nothing dodgy here apart from some fictional scenario you have imagined, which makes no sense in reality.

Why would the agent want to have us sign a player we have no interest in, keep in mind that as a youth player there is not going to be a big transfer fee here, and the agent would get nothing in this. Also, Sporting is not some small obscure club that he needs to be desperate to look to transfer the player now. It would be beneficial for the agent to have the player break through at Sporting, sign a contract and then let him move for bigger money than what would be offered currently.

Also, while dodgy deals do exist, they are not as widespread and obvious as you think. This is not the case here certainly. An agent can have multiple players that he represents, he is not going to jeopardize his main player's big deal over something like this. If every agent wanted to do this, we would be flooded with players we don't need nor rate, which is stupid and is very negative for the club itself. There was no great competition to sign Fernandes anyway that we would need try and put some additional benefits to sweeten the deal.

The likely scenario is that we just want to sign this player, and see that we have an opportunity as we have already worked with the agent before, and that could give us an edge in convincing the player to our side.
 

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Remember the time when we signed 5-6 of Huddersfield's prospects when their academy closed? Are they still at the club or have they been released?
The best out of them - Murray and Pickup still at the club. (U15 and U14). The rest didn't eventually make the cut.
 

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Does anyone know if the u23s will be promoted next season or will it be another year of second tier?
 

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And my point is that it makes no sense whatsoever. If we wanted to do a package deal, why wait to sign him ?? We would have signed them together if we wanted to do that, but we did not. Now, after Fernandes is already signed, we literally have no obligation to sign him if we don't want to.

There is nothing dodgy here apart from some fictional scenario you have imagined, which makes no sense in reality.

Why would the agent want to have us sign a player we have no interest in, keep in mind that as a youth player there is not going to be a big transfer fee here, and the agent would get nothing in this. Also, Sporting is not some small obscure club that he needs to be desperate to look to transfer the player now. It would be beneficial for the agent to have the player break through at Sporting, sign a contract and then let him move for bigger money than what would be offered currently.

Also, while dodgy deals do exist, they are not as widespread and obvious as you think. This is not the case here certainly. An agent can have multiple players that he represents, he is not going to jeopardize his main player's big deal over something like this. If every agent wanted to do this, we would be flooded with players we don't need nor rate, which is stupid and is very negative for the club itself. There was no great competition to sign Fernandes anyway that we would need try and put some additional benefits to sweeten the deal.

The likely scenario is that we just want to sign this player, and see that we have an opportunity as we have already worked with the agent before, and that could give us an edge in convincing the player to our side.
You make a strong case. I renounce my dodgy claims and apologize to Bruno's agent and this young leftback.
 

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A general question on loaning young players out: is it possible to loan lets say two players to the same club? and is it beneficial?
I was thinking more in the direction of Garner and Levitt, they are a good partnership so it could be nice to send them to continue to work together, maybe.
 

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A general question on loaning young players out: is it possible to loan lets say two players to the same club? and is it beneficial?
I was thinking more in the direction of Garner and Levitt, they are a good partnership so it could be nice to send them to continue to work together, maybe.
Rules vary by division. A championship side can sign as many U-21 loanees as they like. They can sign up to 4 from the same club; with no more than 2 of them 23, or over. A maximum of 5 can be played in a match. Loan rules are very flexible; provided the club are in the lower leagues.
 

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A general question on loaning young players out: is it possible to loan lets say two players to the same club? and is it beneficial?
I was thinking more in the direction of Garner and Levitt, they are a good partnership so it could be nice to send them to continue to work together, maybe.
EFL clubs can loan 4 players from one club.
Is it beneficial, if you can somehow find a club willing to start both of them then sure. But I imagine it’s going to be rather hard to find any club that needs two loan CMs in their starting XI and also happen to specifically want both Garner and Levitt.