Not good enough.
Mo Salah | PFA Player's Player of the Year
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Well, we never got the box striker. Did sign Alisson and Van Dijk to fix that defence though.
Damn was I wrong on that oneWell, we never got the box striker. Did sign Alisson and Van Dijk to fix that defence though.
Mind you, I wasn't wrong about needing a striker. Didn't expect it would be Salah though
PFA Player's Player of the Year for a record third time. Well deserved.
How many more years do you think he has left at this level? Surely he cant pull a Modric?
I think more than one would think. He's probably the fittest player in the squad.
That combined with continuing to develop his game and finding more and more time and space in his head as he ages, I think he's still got some years to go at the highest level.
Mac Allister wrote this last week about Mo:
"For a few weeks, I actually tried to get to the gym before him, but it was impossible. He was always there already, sweating."
“One day, I asked him, ‘But Mo … when do you sleep?’"
“He said, ‘I don’t like it when I get more than seven hours. I feel tired"
“He would be in the gym for an hour and someone would say, ‘Mo, are you finished? Let’s go eat.’"
“’No, no. I just did my abs. Now I have to really work out.’"
“When I first arrived, I tried to compete with him. I thought, ‘OK, the guy is 31. I’m 24. Let’s do some abs’."
“Damn… I think I did three sessions with Mo before I gave up. I would wake up the next morning, and I was so sore I could barely sit up in bed."
“Mo sets the tone for everyone at Liverpool. He is the best professional I’ve ever seen. He’s a monster.”
And articles like thishttps://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6272715/2025/08/20/mohamed-salah-diet-fitness-yoga/
He relies a lot on his pace however, gigs adapted when it left him, no guarantee that Salah does the same.
I think we are already seeing him do that.
He sounds like a Jadon Sancho regen.
Someone should slip that article to Sancho. Its so admirable the level of dedication for someone so accomplished.
Also, I thought he would say "I sleep when I die'
Congratulations to him. Not a player that I'm typically excited to watch or anything, but you can't argue with his production and consistency. Also has proved that his success wasn't just about Klopp.
He's not Muller (late one, not Gerd) either. He is not a player I would put him in the mere "production and consistency" bracket.
He didn't had to proove the Klopp thing either, that's just social media silly stuff.
Deserved this award. Best EPL player post 2010.
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Not sure what Thomas Muller has to do with anything.
It's not really social media silly stuff, it's a function of the player he became at Liverpool, compared to what he was previously, which was very good, but not 3-time PL player of the year good.
A fitness freak, ey? Mo' Salad!
Muller was at a certain degree the epithome of being productive and efficient within the realm of his atributes and the best way to take advantage of those while not exposing his deficiencies, yet for some not that entertaining in an eye test comparing to other top players.
The way you've talked about Salah (who is a very easy on the eye sort of player), sounded a tad like describing Muller, more than Mo. In any case, everyone has it's very own taste, yet sounded a tad demeriting in terms of how Mo plays that it's quite smooth, not just efficient.
It is a silly social media when the widesrepad notion was the idea that Klopp "made Liverpool" to demerit the talent of many Liverpool players. In such sense I think it's a silly social media stuff.
BTW I'm not implying that Jurgen wasn't vital, yet more than Jurgen, Mo, or any other top player just needs a team playing as such knowing what he brings to the table. Just that, could be Jurgen, Pep, or whomever providing such enviroment, Mo was already and would still be a top player even if liverpoool didn't won last season.
On a side note, Mo have evolved in a better player, more sounded, less chaotic and more productive when getting older, like almost any top player that take cares care of himself and wants to improve in time
Shows how football has fallen off . Salah will
Obviously go down as a legend . But still not in Ronaldo, Bale, Hazard and Giggs class. Stats wise he obviously has the edge. But not someone I would pay money to watch. But his goalscoring record is impressive
Obviously go down as a legend . But still not in Ronaldo, Bale, Hazard and Giggs class. Stats wise he obviously has the edge. But not someone I would pay money to watch. But his goalscoring record is impressive
I don't think he is, but you're just using Muller, who is an extreme example, and a totally different sort of player (not nearly as prolific, for starters) to make your point.
There is a middle ground between Thomas Muller and Ronaldinho if you're talking about players being fun to watch. I don't think Salah (especially this current iteration) is. That doesn't mean that I don't think he's good, or a PL great. That's just my opinion and you'll have to accept that, I'm afraid.
In what world is Hazard better than Salah? Salah is obviously better than Hazard and Bale didn't play a lot in England. Only Ronaldo and Giggs are better than Salah but even Ronaldo didn't play enough in England. Ronaldo's peak in Utd was much better than Salah's in Liverpool but he also came as a kid, so technically Salah was more consistent than Ronaldo in England.
Giggs is definitely underrated and his impact in the Premier League was immense. His 13 EPL titles are unmatched. Salah is already among the all time greats in the EPL and it would be hard to deny that.
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13!
He's already lost pace and adapted.
He's not as quick as he was when he came to Liverpool. A noticeable decline in that regard.
Indeed, let's agree to disagree that Mo even not being RG, it's not someone I would just put under the label of mostly or just productive.
Yeah, I'm going to get blasted for this, but Giggs was never the main man in title winning teams. Salah has been that guy in Liverpool title winning and challenging seasons.
I think at this point Salah is a better player at Giggs.
Its not really even a question. And I do rate Giggs.
Salah is one of the very best attacking players in PL history, along with Henry, Rooney, Ronaldo, De Bruyne, and maybe Cantona/Shearer/Kane somewhere at the edge of the group. Giggs was a great player who complemented a lot of other great players on a bunch of great teams.
Jeysus, some ridiculous underrating of Giggsy here.
Salah has 2 titles.
Arev we talking about the same Ryan Joseph Giggs OBE, here?
O'Shea gas 5 titles. Your point?
As many as Henry then. Shearer has one whilst Phil Neville has six.
Eye test. Far superior footballer. Didn’t have the longevity. But both prime for prime. Hazard all day. Guy was incredible talent and someone you pay to watch.
The Giggs comparison is so off base.
The game is so different now.
1) Giggs was an out and out winger who's primary focus was to create for the strikers. As was the role of a wide man back then
2) Defenders where allowed to tackle back then and there full backs where in position, I've seen Salah run across the 18 yard box and not one defender try to tackle in fear of initiating a contact that results in a penalty. And full backs today are more like wing backs and are out of position much more often
3) Giggs could play right across the midfield LW, RW & CM. Salah is a Right forward the end.
If Giggs had of came through in the modern era he would have been a beast, he could cut in, go outside shoot create he could do everything.
I swear this forum just wants to tear down every player at united who dominated the Premier league for 20 years and Giggs was in every one of them teams.
The game is so different now.
1) Giggs was an out and out winger who's primary focus was to create for the strikers. As was the role of a wide man back then
2) Defenders where allowed to tackle back then and there full backs where in position, I've seen Salah run across the 18 yard box and not one defender try to tackle in fear of initiating a contact that results in a penalty. And full backs today are more like wing backs and are out of position much more often
3) Giggs could play right across the midfield LW, RW & CM. Salah is a Right forward the end.
If Giggs had of came through in the modern era he would have been a beast, he could cut in, go outside shoot create he could do everything.
I swear this forum just wants to tear down every player at united who dominated the Premier league for 20 years and Giggs was in every one of them teams.
Unfortunately, yes. Brilliant footballer - by all accounts a nice person, but in the end an abomination due to the club he plays for.
Completely different players. Giggs much more of a roaming winger that could get the best of any defender in the world, but since he played in a completely different era, he had a very different role with different expectations than Salah.
Didn't stop John Barnes from dominating from a similar position a decade earlier. Or Best even earlier.
I went and looked at the writers player of the year award. Players who have won it twice
- Tom Finney
- Stanley Matthews
- Danny Blanchflower
- Kenny Dalglish
- Gary Lineker
- John Barnes
- Christiano Ronaldo
- Thierry Henry
- Mo Salah
- Mark Hughes
- Alan Shearer
- Thierry Henry
- Gareth Bale
- Christiano Ronaldo
- Kevin de Bruyne
- Mo Salah
If we’re ranking PL players, I hate to say it but Salah is second to only Henry in my opinion. There are players that were more beautiful to watch, more technical and maybe even had more ability but his body of work in the PL can hold up against anyone and he has titles to back it up too.
Since the day he came into the league he’s been a force and has competed with some of the best we’ve seen and outlasted them and still going.
Since the day he came into the league he’s been a force and has competed with some of the best we’ve seen and outlasted them and still going.
Well, that’s not a good angle at all. Best played in a 3-man attack as a wing-forward, not in a 4-4-2, and Barnes had a similar role and standing in domestic football, but is obviously eclipsed by Giggs in European, for obvious reasons. Further to that, Giggs was the hottest left winger in Europe for practically his whole time playing the position in a 4-4-2.
I suspect you know all of these things and are hoping your audience does not.
Mr. Consistency
Both of them played in what would at the time have been seen as a 442, with a striker, a slightly withdrawn forward and with it being common that one of the wingers are a bit more tucked into midfield with the other winger given a bit more attacking freedom.
I just don't buy the notion at all that Giggs was being held back by being a winger in the 90s. Barnes and Best at their peaks were simply superior players and it shows in what they were able to do from a similar position in comparable tactical climates.